New Update - Force Feedback Broken

[Hypnoziz]

Updated the game this morning. I don't run any mods at all, completely vanilla game. Using the Logitech G923 wheel with G-Hub installed. Was working last night before the update. I've already tried verifying game files just to be safe, but no dice.

Any ideas as to what's going on?

[AyMazingATS]

Force feedback was reworked in 1.42. 1.41 settings do not work on 1.42. Go to Options >> Controls.

On the Force Feedback line click on Reset to Default. Then try again.

https://blog.scssoft.com/2021/10/force-feedback-faq.html

[Hypnoziz]

Thank you for the prompt response! I'll give it a shot and let you know how it goes.

[Hypnoziz]

After making the above changes, I can feel very slight resistance in the wheel. It's nothing like how it used to be and feels very "floaty" and weak. I read through that article and it seems like this is the way it's intended to be going forward. This will take some adjustment to get used to, but either way - my original problem is solved.

Thanks again!

[Sandhill]

Do keep at it, as it is a whole new FFB. Slight resistance suggests need for more overall gain, is it like that with the slider all the way to the right? For my wheel, I had to set Low Speed Centering almost off, High Speed about 80%, internal friction at about 50% Fairly small changes can have bigger than expected effect.

[Hypnoziz]

I've maxed out gain and friction. Even enabled centering in g-hub to get that old feel back. Let's face it...this feels nothing like how it used to. Maybe I'm just being a boomer, but I hate this new feel. Kinda ruins the experience for me. :/

[Sandhill]

For me it is a great improvement. Odd it is not working for you, perhaps folks happy with their results with a 923 can chime in, I haven't used Logitech for some time so can be no help. Do you have other games that implement FFB well, so you can have a baseline of expectation?

[ajcico64]

Not a little! Very! The same problem is compounded by the fact that the assignment of the steering wheel buttons has also changed! Please return my old settings! I was able to set the operation completely true to reality, with this update it became as if the steering servo in the truck was bad!

[Hypnoziz]

@Sandhill Yeah I play Forza Horizon 4 as well as BeamNG.drive where both are working just fine. ATS was perfect last night. It's just the update this morning that changed things.

I've tried everything and I can't emulate how it was before. The best way I can describe it is as if you were "driving on a cloud". It's almost as if there's no resistance to center the wheel, especially at high speed. Turning up "terrain surface vibrations" helps when on the road, but is an absolute nightmarish desk earthquake if I go off the road.

[Unster]

Force Feedback

I like the additional settings, especially how the low and high speed centering forces now have separate sliders, but with both of them I'd like to have more negative force in relation to the positive force, meaning more centering force when holding the wheel steady or returning to the center but keep the force the same when going away from the center. Perhaps the negative centering can be a separate slider.

[Allistar Dreemurr]

I've been trying for the last hour to get my FFB to feel the way it was before 1.42 and I've yet to find settings i'm satisfied with. The best way i can describe it, is that the FFB feels like a clock's second hand ticking, only you feel something only at 12, 3, 6 and 9 and between those there's just a yawning gap of nothing

[Kenny B Trucking]

Anyone have some settings for a G25

[Leetpandaz]

Originally posted by Hypnoziz:

I've maxed out gain and friction. Even enabled centering in g-hub to get that old feel back. Let's face it...this feels nothing like how it used to. Maybe I'm just being a boomer, but I hate this new feel. Kinda ruins the experience for me. :/

its definitely weird now, at low speeds its the most noticeably. The steering input does feel lighter overall and near the centered position when stopped or rolling forward it feels too light.

[Emmerich]

as I told in other thread that problem is based on the new FFB physics calculation I guess..they took a positiv scrub radius as base of the calculation..so the centering forces are applied like in a car driving backwards..in that case you see your wheel shifting to the side driving curves..so I believe that problem could exist in all FFB devices based on that calculation..I am using a Thrustmaster T150 and have same problems..driving forward cause the steering wheel forces to rotate the steering wheel towards curve outside and not to the center

[Likeicare]

ffb was perfect before, no idea why they had to touch it. game is unusable as it is now

[AyMazingATS]

Originally posted by Likeicare:

ffb was perfect before, no idea why they had to touch it. game is unusable as it is now

Just like how the game was unplayable when 1.40 first released because of the lighting update? Force Feedback is now physics based.