Allison vs. Eaton Transmissions

[HuskyDynamics]

I've seen various threads and posts discussing this, but haven't managed to get a clear answer yet.

So what's the effective difference between the Eaton and Allison transmission types? I know that the Allisons are designed as "automatic", but the Eatons have far more gears available. Additionally, despite costing as much or more than the Eatons, the Allison transmissions appear to be far less effective based on the performance estimates given when you swap them. Is there any reason to favor the Allison transmissions over the Eaton ones? Is one type better with certain weights or certain terrain than the other?

Note: I play on keyboard and as such have the game set to automatic, so shifting isn't an issue for me.


Edit: I did some testing while doing a few heavy-haul jobs, and the Allison appears to have better get-up-and-go and slightly (?) better fuel consumption, but seems slow to accelerate above 40 or 50, whereas the Eaton seems to power through but is slower to start. Is this accurate?

[Don]

i was always told Automatic boxes are for steering wheel attendants

manual boxes where for drivers

[Sandhill]

Publicado originalmente por Don:

i was always told Automatic boxes are for steering wheel attendants

manual boxes where for drivers

In the day electric starters were for men who were to weak to crank.

[Ryu]

Then driving is for those who are too weak to walk? hehe

To deny yourself an advantage due to how others might perceive you is to allow those others to dictate your actions. Since you can't charge them rent for living in your head, kick them out and do what you like! ;)

[anomaly.va]

Publicado originalmente por Sandhill:

In the day electric starters were for men who were to weak to crank.

No, actually, they were necessary to prevent injuries, which were quite common if the engine fired and ran at the wrong moment.[/quote]

Publicado originalmente por Don:

i was always told Automatic boxes are for steering wheel attendants
manual boxes where for drivers

And there's nothing wrong with an auto box, it's just that most people demand them rather than a nice-to-have. Usually the same people who are just too clueless about the mechanics of the process to learn how to drive a manual.

Once I had the option to upgrade to auto in-game, I took it. Of course, I'm playing with keyboard ATM, which makes it harder than it has to be. Just got a Thrustmaster TM300 yesterday and then, of course, the screwdriver decided to disappear into thin air while I was screwing the collar into the wheel hub. I'm a former trucker myself (sorry if I mentioned this earlier, I've forgotten at this point where I've posted already) and I also ordered a THM8A and the STG Eaton-Fuller shifter mod, so I may switch back to a manual in full manual mode once all that is set up.

[Sandhill]

I was just making fun of the Luddite notion of "Automatic boxes are for steering wheel attendants manual boxes where for drivers". Time marches on

[anomaly.va]

Publicado originalmente por Sandhill:

I was just making fun of the Luddite notion of "Automatic boxes are for steering wheel attendants manual boxes where for drivers". Time marches on :lunar2019smilingpig:

Oh, I wasn't flaming, don't take it as such. But that's the why and how of it. And it's sort of true, too many people these days don't want to actually learn how to drive and think the vehicle is supposed to do everything for them (aka steering wheel attendants).

People who rely on their compu-car's nanny devices such as lane departure, automatic braking, and parking assist, using them as excuses to take their eyes off the road to groom themselves, read, write, play with their phone (folks, in my short time out there on the road, I saw everything, so don't tell me you didn't do it -- I could look down in your car and TELL you what you were doing, and nine out of ten were playing with their phone). If you can picture it being done in a kitchen, living room, bathroom, bedroom (and yes, I mean exactly that), I've seen most, if not all of it, being done at 65 mph in a vehicle.

And the most common distracted driver was soccer mom. Bran muffin in one hand, coffee in the other, steering with her knees with her shoulder cupping her phone to her ear, yelling at the kids to be quiet while cutting off a 40-ton truck that needs 800-900 feet to stop from 65 mph with all of about 20-40 feet between bumpers. No offense to the ladies here, but I'm going to sum this up with a simple, "I'm *NOT* a useless bag of t--s, I'm *NOT*..." Otherwise known as UBOT, I'll let you figure that out yourself. Filter didn't catch it, so I had to censor it myself, knowing the thought police are always watching. It's not about gender, it's about cluelessness and stupidity - which come in all sizes, shapes, colors, religions, AND biological genders.

As a former trucker, you wouldn't believe how many idiots are using Waze and Google Maps to drive 18-wheelers, and cannot find their way out of a parking lot otherwise. First, Waze and Google Maps are not commercial vehicle friendly, and are not designed to route you around areas with height, weight, length or other restrictions that might apply to a commercial truck such as these. Which is one reason I say the in-game nav is garbage. They need something based off the Garmin deZl series. Preferably the 770LMTHD such as the one I still have from my trucking days.

I'm thinking ATS has height signs on overpasses, but it's irrelevant if you don't know your total height, and yes, I did have an overheight load hit a bridge once sometime in the first few weeks I played the game. Some kind of logging equipment, if memory serves. Can't avoid it if you don't know the height, and it should be telling you that on oversize loads. I have been routed to ramp-around a couple times since (common practice for overheight loads), so perhaps this was a bug that has since been fixed. But I digress, and sorry about the thread drift.