American Truck Simulator

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Beatlejuice Jun 22, 2020 @ 7:52am
External contract 65 speed limit.
Why does this exist? I bought a truck early on kept buying new trucks thinking they must be underpowered or needed better transmissions since they were maxed at 65 MPH. If I can go whatever the speed limit is on quick jobs than this should be for all job types. I'd guess this was beaten to death previously but it's there. Whatever real world validation there was to implement this, it needs to be removed. I typically avoid CA jobs but this I can understand and accept.
Last edited by Beatlejuice; Jun 22, 2020 @ 7:54am
Originally posted by Sandhill:
Entirely arbitrarily, for no good reason, actually. There can by definition be no such thing as "fairness" in a single player game...if everybody else, playing their own game for their own satisfaction, was able to use some sort of cheat to instantly achieve the goals of an event it would have absolutely no effect on me or my enjoyment of the event, so that whole argument is empty to me.
As Beatlejuice said above, trucks on my local stretch of Interstate might drive at 70, maybe 75 but a truck going 65 would certainly be the exception.
PS I should add that it is what it is and I have no actual problem with the 65 mph restriction, I just don't buy the arguments for why it is what is or that it is somehow a good thing. To me it does not matter one way or the other.
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AyMazingATS Jun 22, 2020 @ 7:56am 
World of Trucks is used for events in addition to the game element.

To make things fair for everyone who participates SCS decided to set a global speed limit. Originally it was 55mph. It was raised to 65.

Also you do realize that a far and large majority of trucks on the highway also have speed limiters? A lot of companies keep them right around 65mph too. So it is quite realisitic.

In addition you are no longer able to F7 to a repair center with a WoT contract. Doing so cancels the job. People were "cheating" and using F7 to travel closer to destination without having to drive the route.

ETA: The solution is simple OP. Don't do World of Trucks contracts(external contracts). In game; for those with an owned trailer they are labeled as External Market.
Last edited by AyMazingATS; Jun 22, 2020 @ 8:04am
Beatlejuice Jun 22, 2020 @ 8:12am 
Originally posted by AyMazingATS:
World of Trucks is used for events in addition to the game element.

To make things fair for everyone who participates SCS decided to set a global speed limit. Originally it was 55mph. It was raised to 65.

Also you do realize that a far and large majority of trucks on the highway also have speed limiters? A lot of companies keep them right around 65mph too. So it is quite realisitic.

In addition you are no longer able to F7 to a repair center with a WoT contract. Doing so cancels the job. People were "cheating" and using F7 to travel closer to destination without having to drive the route.

ETA: The solution is simple OP. Don't do World of Trucks contracts(external contracts). In game; for those with an owned trailer they are labeled as External Market.

I NEVER see real world trucks doing less than 70. Most do 75 or more. So I'd disagree that it's realistic. Besides, these contracts are pulling their trailers with my truck. F7, repair center cheat not being there I have no problem with. As stated, there is no real world justification for a 65 MPH limit.
mr_bman Jun 22, 2020 @ 10:28am 
All heavy commercial trucks manufactured since 1992 come equipped with electronic speed governors as standard equipment so there is no capital expense to trucking fleets.
You can't drive through Ontario or Quebec without one in operation.
There was a study in 2006 that showed out of 415 companies surveyed, 60.4% were using speed limiters on their trucks - so it's fairly common.
The external contact jobs lets you pick more routes - so for example if you wanted to complete an achievement and needed to go to a specific location, you have a much better chance at finding a job to that area.
Last edited by mr_bman; Jun 22, 2020 @ 10:30am
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Sandhill Jun 22, 2020 @ 12:38pm 
Entirely arbitrarily, for no good reason, actually. There can by definition be no such thing as "fairness" in a single player game...if everybody else, playing their own game for their own satisfaction, was able to use some sort of cheat to instantly achieve the goals of an event it would have absolutely no effect on me or my enjoyment of the event, so that whole argument is empty to me.
As Beatlejuice said above, trucks on my local stretch of Interstate might drive at 70, maybe 75 but a truck going 65 would certainly be the exception.
PS I should add that it is what it is and I have no actual problem with the 65 mph restriction, I just don't buy the arguments for why it is what is or that it is somehow a good thing. To me it does not matter one way or the other.
Last edited by Sandhill; Jun 22, 2020 @ 12:43pm
Robinicus Jun 22, 2020 @ 1:58pm 
It mattered more in the early days of WoT events when they were much more limited on time and much harder to achieve; the giveaway items carried some value in the market as they were rarer so it was an attempt to drive fairness. The last several events have taken all of an hour or two to get the achievement; I remember one in ETS2 long ago where you had to do multiple trips to multiple countries and the loads were very scarce....it took something like 15 hours to complete and was only open for 6 or 7 days.

Pavel said in the last or second last stream he was on that they would be removing that speed cap at some time but the teleport limit will remain in place so you actually still have to drive all the miles.
Hunter451 Jun 22, 2020 @ 2:10pm 
Swift, Interstate trucking, Wieners trucking all limit the speed of there trucks. I drove for FedEx and was limited on speed also. Some weigh stations record your tag and can tell at the next one how fast your average speed was.
Last edited by Hunter451; Jun 22, 2020 @ 2:11pm
AyMazingATS Jun 22, 2020 @ 2:14pm 
Don't forget Schneider, JB Hunt, Marten Transport, Knight, Estes, Prime, US Xpress, CRST, C.R. England, Kenan Advantage, Averitt Express, Crete Carrier Corp, Ruan, KLLM, Covenant, Day & Ross, Stevens Transport, Western Express, Heartland Express....need I go on about companies that run speed limited trucks.
Sandhill Jun 22, 2020 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by AyMazingATS:
Don't forget Schneider, JB Hunt, Marten Transport, Knight, Estes, Prime, US Xpress, CRST, C.R. England, Kenan Advantage, Averitt Express, Crete Carrier Corp, Ruan, KLLM, Covenant, Day & Ross, Stevens Transport, Western Express, Heartland Express....need I go on about companies that run speed limited trucks.
But, thankfully, those companies are not the boss of me... :lunar2019smilingpig::lunar2019smilingpig::lunar2019smilingpig:
jbonesmd Jun 22, 2020 @ 6:50pm 
Mr. 'juice, either you don't live in the US, or your to young to drive here. There are ENTIRE company fleets that run with speed limiters here in the US. It's a fact and I'm sure there are drivers on here that can back up what I say. And most are governed at 65 mph, some even less and some at slightly more. Not all fleets and companies do it but many do because of insurance and liability risk. Independent owner/operators: doesn't typically apply to them. I can't tell you how many times on an interstate I've been behind a truck who's trying to pass another truck when both are limited at 65 and ride side by side for miles trying to get around one another. Do a little google research on the subject.
MaskMcgee (Banned) Jun 23, 2020 @ 1:00am 
Originally posted by Beatlejuice:

I NEVER see real world trucks doing less than 70.

So you are claiming you have never seen a truck stopped at a red light?
mojo_musica Jun 23, 2020 @ 4:25am 
Originally posted by bomberswarm2:
Originally posted by Beatlejuice:

I NEVER see real world trucks doing less than 70.

So you are claiming you have never seen a truck stopped at a red light?
LOL! :steamhappy:
Beatlejuice Jun 23, 2020 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by ;2518023667604550431:
Mr. 'juice, either you don't live in the US, or your to young to drive here. There are ENTIRE company fleets that run with speed limiters here in the US. It's a fact and I'm sure there are drivers on here that can back up what I say. And most are governed at 65 mph, some even less and some at slightly more. Not all fleets and companies do it but many do because of insurance and liability risk. Independent owner/operators: doesn't typically apply to them. I can't tell you how many times on an interstate I've been behind a truck who's trying to pass another truck when both are limited at 65 and ride side by side for miles trying to get around one another. Do a little google research on the subject.

I do live in the US and am well above driving age as I own a couple of cars and a motorcycle. I drive very conservatively as I own a Fusion hybrid and I get passed by trucks here in MI all the time. 73 and they pass me often. However as I read, if true, this will be corrected and all this discussion isn't needed.

Kinda crazy the people on here thinking "how dare you let me go faster than 65 MPH when I'm driving my own truck". When I am doing a quick job driving someone elses truck there is no limit. People will argue about anything.
Last edited by Beatlejuice; Jun 23, 2020 @ 5:19am
meatballs_21 Jun 23, 2020 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by Sandhill:
Entirely arbitrarily, for no good reason, actually. There can by definition be no such thing as "fairness" in a single player game...if everybody else, playing their own game for their own satisfaction, was able to use some sort of cheat to instantly achieve the goals of an event it would have absolutely no effect on me or my enjoyment of the event, so that whole argument is empty to me.

You *are* free to play for your own satisfaction or cheat/edit your way to a fortune already. The external contracts and the fact they often contribute to an overall community goal, that affects other players and that is why you are agreeing to the speed limiter by choosing to participate. Or you can go all Freeman of the Land and not do external contracts, which is again your choice to play the way you want.

Originally posted by Beatlejuice:
People will argue about anything.

We know, you didn’t need to prove it by starting this thread.
Beatlejuice Jun 23, 2020 @ 8:43am 
Originally posted by meatballs_21:
Originally posted by Sandhill:
Entirely arbitrarily, for no good reason, actually. There can by definition be no such thing as "fairness" in a single player game...if everybody else, playing their own game for their own satisfaction, was able to use some sort of cheat to instantly achieve the goals of an event it would have absolutely no effect on me or my enjoyment of the event, so that whole argument is empty to me.

You *are* free to play for your own satisfaction or cheat/edit your way to a fortune already. The external contracts and the fact they often contribute to an overall community goal, that affects other players and that is why you are agreeing to the speed limiter by choosing to participate. Or you can go all Freeman of the Land and not do external contracts, which is again your choice to play the way you want.

Originally posted by Beatlejuice:
People will argue about anything.

We know, you didn’t need to prove it by starting this thread.

You didn't need to respond to it whatsoever since there was nothing useful in any of your reply.
P3_Super_Bee Jun 24, 2020 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by Beatlejuice:

You didn't need to respond to it whatsoever since there was nothing useful in any of your reply.


Nor with your post. I you would have searched. You would have found out your post was the 3,340,455,343,776,777,665 on the matter.
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