American Truck Simulator

American Truck Simulator

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Purno Apr 29, 2020 @ 11:16pm
Those left side mirros...
In pretty much all trucks in ATS, I'm having troubles fitting the left side mirror on my screen. Those mirrors are just too far left and too far back to be able to have a good view on them, without the need to turn the camera everytime you want to use the mirror. The Kenworth W900 is one of the few trucks I've been able to set my seat position in a way that still offers a good view both the mirror and the main windscreen. Am I the only one having issues with this? I very much prefer the European trucks in ETS2 which have the mirrors way closer to the cab.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2078913746
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MetalMind85 Apr 29, 2020 @ 11:21pm 
The new Mack truck is a nightmare regarding mirrors. I like to have left mirror in view when driving but with new truck it is impossible.
MetalMind85 Apr 29, 2020 @ 11:30pm 
Originally posted by Peter:
Originally posted by metalmind85:
The new Mack truck is a nightmare regarding mirrors. I like to have left mirror in view when driving but with new truck it is impossible.

Not impossible:

FOV 85
Seat one notch left
Seat one notch back
Then with the mouse turn slighty left

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2077735103

I never set FOV more than 77, more than that it is hard to play on 21,5 inch screen at least it is my feeling. Seat max set to back. I don't use the mouse, only controller as I prefer to play that game on controller.
Nemesys Apr 29, 2020 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by Purno:
In pretty much all trucks in ATS, I'm having troubles fitting the left side mirror on my screen. Those mirrors are just too far left and too far back to be able to have a good view on them, without the need to turn the camera everytime you want to use the mirror. The Kenworth W900 is one of the few trucks I've been able to set my seat position in a way that still offers a good view both the mirror and the main windscreen. Am I the only one having issues with this? I very much prefer the European trucks in ETS2 which have the mirrors way closer to the cab.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2078913746

I fully agree. For that reason, I mostly drive the Kenworth. I understand that SCS is using some blueprints for the trucks but it seems they could cheat a little on the left mirrors. And why are the left mirrors on the Kenworth usable but not on any other truck?
MaskMcgee (Banned) Apr 29, 2020 @ 11:47pm 
Use F2 like everyone else
Scar Face Apr 30, 2020 @ 1:57am 
Only Lonestar and Mack have that issue.
Talon Apr 30, 2020 @ 4:07am 
This is why I only drive a Peterbilt 389 with the classic mirrors.
Last edited by Talon; Apr 30, 2020 @ 4:36am
solidFOX Apr 30, 2020 @ 4:31am 
Yeah the Mack and Lonestar have that issue. Poor visibility, imo. The best truck, I think, is the Volvo, with the best visibility.
Zuz Apr 30, 2020 @ 4:48am 
I found this to a bit of a nuisance as well with the International (Haven't driven the Mack yet). I've took the seat back so I could see the mirror but now can't see the dashboard lol. Playing on a 22". So, I just add the mirrors using F2. But that mod looks interesting. I'll have a bash at it later on I guess.
Eagle Eye Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:18am 
Has anyone sat in their car or a truck in real life and NOT had to move their head to look in the side mirrors?

These trucks are modeled just fine, move your head like you would in real life..
jmmsmokey Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:53am 
Originally posted by Eagle Eye:
Has anyone sat in their car or a truck in real life and NOT had to move their head to look in the side mirrors?

These trucks are modeled just fine, move your head like you would in real life..

You've got a good point, but I find moving my view with the mouse is very disorienting and of course I don't have VR. I agree with the others that the visibility is poor and that's why I mostly drive the Kenworth.
meatballs_21 Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:55am 
Yes, and in real life it’s a very minor muscle movement to turn your head that doesn’t require taking your hands off any other controls, and is much faster and more precise, to boot. Not everyone has VR or TrackIR.

There are several buses in OMSI2 that I likewise avoid driving where possible (Solaris Urbino, Mercedes Citaro) because what would be a quick sideward glance to the mirror when pulling away from a stop or changing lanes is two or three key presses to change the camera over to the mirror and then reset it to straight ahead.
Last edited by meatballs_21; Apr 30, 2020 @ 5:56am
hackintoshchap Apr 30, 2020 @ 6:17am 
The Mack actually has really great front fender mirrors. It might not be what you are used to using and I understand that it may also not be your preferred personal preference.
Eagle Eye Apr 30, 2020 @ 6:18am 
The truck designers these days are trying to clear that big blind spot that is caused when the mirrors are too far forward and the view merges with the A pillar..

MACK has done a good job with this, but, SCS will have no choice, as getting a licence means getting the model spot on..


I mean, I get where everyone is coming from, I have 3 monitors, but don't always have them spanned to 5760 x 1080, so, I use the mouse to look left and right, and I have a button on my G27 that will centre my view after using the mouse. to look..

After all, when driving these trucks, how many of us actually use 2 hands on the wheel?

Maybe if you have a modded wheel, that has a full size wheel, you might use 2 hands..

EE
zeeuwse_adonis Apr 30, 2020 @ 7:49am 
Originally posted by Eagle Eye:
Has anyone sat in their car or a truck in real life and NOT had to move their head to look in the side mirrors?

These trucks are modeled just fine, move your head like you would in real life..

My living environment is europe, and i am truck driver, and here they try to get the mirrors as close to the cabin as possible.
Of course you see very few american trucks here, adjusted in size and length for shows. but as the mack has its mirrors out, it shouldn't even be here.

Has to do with safety, protruding parts, width is more than 2.50 meters. what is allowed here.
but also with safety for yourself, namely at the moment that your head has to go left to be able to (have to) look clearly in the mirror, that is too far one no longer sees from the front, and of course here we have no nose, but cabover trucks.
And now you also have a big dead viewpoint.
Plus that one tries to economically place the mirrors, to reduce consumption of diesel.

When you look at the new mercedes truck. 2020 you see that there are no more mirrors outside,
but with cameras left right, with monitors inside the cabin. the left is right in front of you, so that you keep your view to the front and still see the left side.
I am lucky enough to be able to drive it 4 days a week. in the beginning it takes a lot of getting used to. But you see more, without many head movements.
Reduces driver fatigue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhTOJl5fn60&t=94s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4JoI8rGL8A

Last edited by zeeuwse_adonis; Apr 30, 2020 @ 7:57am
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