What would it take to change the distance scale to real scale

[Yan D]

EDIT:
Based on discussion in the comments section of this mod https://atsmods.lt/the-time-more-slow-11-or-119/ , it is exactly what I am looking for with regards to changing displayed distance to 1:1 and the progression of time to real time. Unfortunately it is from 2016 and incompatible with current ATS, I have created a new post in the mod requests section.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/270880/discussions/2/1743358239853949813/

//I am a fan of 1:1 maps but in this post I don't mean expanding the map to 1:1 scale. I just mean removing the 1:19 scale from the UI so the mileage counter doesn't tick down every few seconds, which annoys the hell out of me (also, having to gas up every 50 miles, no thanks). SCS did a decent job building mini-USA but I prefer driving through mini USA in real time with real distances.

[Rogue]

it's really not possible without expanding the map. At it's present size you would have to creep down the highway, even at high speeds, to make trips in real time. Boy would that be boring.

[Cobster-Coby]

I think timescale is a separate setting from the map scale, I'm not a modder, though.

[Nono54Fr]

Originally posted by Yan D:

I just mean removing the 1:19 scale from the UI so the mileage counter doesn't tick down every few seconds, which annoys the hell out of me (also, having to gas up every 50 miles, no thanks)

The scale of the map allows you to do SF - LA under a half hour IRL, yet the game will show 6 hours. You want to remove those 6 hours and show 30 minutes instead ? I'm already annoyed when a sign says 2 miles and the odomoter display 6 miles but what you want is ludicrous.

PS: every 50 miles, really ?

[BigT57]

No the map and time scales go together. If you keep the map scale at 1:19 and change time to 1:1 then what was 60mph will be something like 1000mph.

[Nite69]

1:1 scale map would be insane, it would take ya like 2 - 3 days real time to complete a short delivery, I did it with the Harsh Russian Map for ETS2 back when I tried it

https://ets2.lt/en/harsh-russian-map-r11/

[carllyngholm]

This isn't really a solution to your question, but if you activate the console commands (look up how to do it, if interested), there is a command called 'Warp'. What this does is basically adjust the sense of speed you experience when driving. It's default in 1 but if you lower it (I prefer 0.8) it has the effect of "slowing down" your truck. Not literally, you're still going the same speed, but it feels more realistic to me. Doesn't really effect the scale, but It feels like distances are further away from each other.

[Yan D]

There seems to be some confusion what I mean, let me elaborate: say I plan a trip from somewhere in ATS New Mexico to ATS Oregon. The game will tell me its a 2000+ mile trip that takes 38+ hours, but the actual distance I "physically" travel is 100+ miles that takes 2+ hours. I want the game to show me the distances and time in the actual distance and time it will take.
In doing this trip I will at least have to fuel up once, if I do this halfway it would be after 50 real miles, which sucks a lot of fun out of driving. I would also prefer the truck, which has 1000+ miles of range, to only require fuel after driving 1000 actual miles, not after 50 miles that the game tells me is 1000 miles.
This post is not about changing the speed of the game itself or expending the map to make it bigger, but apparently some of yall can't read.
(btw, those who say 1:1 maps would be boring etc, I've driven nonstop long road trips and enjoyed it so it is just your opinion)

[Yan D]

Originally posted by Nono54Fr:

The scale of the map allows you to do SF - LA under a half hour IRL, yet the game will show 6 hours. You want to remove those 6 hours and show 30 minutes instead ?

exactly. Given how the game itself will switch from a small scale on the highway to a large scale in the city, I think it could be simple as a piece of data for each stretch of road that defines the scale it is using, which affects both time, distance and fuel use. If this is the case, it shouldn't be too hard for SCS or modders to make the game treat all part of the map as 1:1 as part of an added game mode or mod

[carllyngholm]

Originally posted by Yan D:

This post is not about changing the speed of the game itself or expending the map to make it bigger, but apparently some of yall can't read.

"...apparently some of yall can't read". Huh... That's your response to people who took time out of their day to respond to your question? An obscure question that wasn't articulated very well to begin with? Maybe your new to the whole forum thing, but insulting people who are trying to help you out is both counterproductive and just rude.

[Yan D]

Originally posted by carllyngholm:

Huh... That's your response to people who took time out of their day to respond to your question? An obscure question that wasn't articulated very well to begin with? Maybe your new to the whole forum thing, but insulting people who are trying to help you out is both counterproductive and just rude.

Literally the first sentence in my post says this is not about expanding the map to 1:1 scale, which 2 commenters decided was my question. If you aren't prepared to make a good faith attempt at reading and understanding a post, then don't respond to it at all! You are doing the amazon questions equivalent of "sorry I don't know the answer to your question" and expecting the asker to think you are helping.

[Ryu]

What would it take? It would take a complete re-make of the map.

If you're looking for a 1:1 experience then perhaps you need to look at the "Dalton Highway" map mod. You'll get all the real-distance, long-haul driving your heart desires.

[BigT57]

Originally posted by Yan D:

There seems to be some confusion what I mean, let me elaborate: say I plan a trip from somewhere in ATS New Mexico to ATS Oregon. The game will tell me its a 2000+ mile trip that takes 38+ hours, but the actual distance I "physically" travel is 100+ miles that takes 2+ hours. I want the game to show me the distances and time in the actual distance and time it will take.
In doing this trip I will at least have to fuel up once, if I do this halfway it would be after 50 real miles, which sucks a lot of fun out of driving. I would also prefer the truck, which has 1000+ miles of range, to only require fuel after driving 1000 actual miles, not after 50 miles that the game tells me is 1000 miles.
This post is not about changing the speed of the game itself or expending the map to make it bigger, but apparently some of yall can't read.
(btw, those who say 1:1 maps would be boring etc, I've driven nonstop long road trips and enjoyed it so it is just your opinion)

But it is not a 1:1 map so you are traveling 2000+ scale miles with the time also scaled appropriately. You are saying we don't understand what you are asking but to me what you are asking makes no sense. If they made it work the way you want then it would bother me that what is really 1900 mile trip would now be treated like 100 miles.

[Yan D]

Originally posted by BigT57:

But it is not a 1:1 map so you are traveling 2000+ scale miles with the time also scaled appropriately. You are saying we don't understand what you are asking but to me what you are asking makes no sense. If they made it work the way you want then it would bother me that what is really 1900 mile trip would now be treated like 100 miles.

Hide the UI, position the camera so the odometer is obscured. Invite someone who has no knowledge of ATS' 1:19 scale, show them 30 minutes of driving and ask them how far you travelled.They will guess 15-30 miles, because that's what it feels like, because that's what it is.

Over 30 minutes of driving you are seeing 30 minutes' scenery, taking 30 minutes worth of time and effort, and the player (not the character) is experiencing 30 minutes worth of fatigue.

Look, if you want the game to tell you that you drove across the entire west coast in the span of an hour, fine by me. You have to accept and respect that other people will want to play a game differently than intended, which is why mods and options exist.

I am not demanding they change the default gameplay, I just want a mod or an option, or information that helps me configure my copy of the game myself. Comments like yours are not helpful and unwanted.

[Sandhill]

[Robinicus]

The game has to appeal to a broad base of gamers; 1:1 would not appeal to many people. I like it, but I also recognize most gamers don't have the time (or interest) to put into this that I do. There would not be enough feeling of accomplishment for most gamers at 1:1 and they would not stay and spend.

1:1 in this game would only work within the cities. I do think they went to far with the acceleration they chose; perhaps 10:1 would have been a happier medium but it isn't changing now so I guess we just need to find something we like about it.