Any way to simulate 10 speed (switch) double clutch?

[Ballistic]

hello all,
Is there any way i can simulate doube clutch upshifting and downshifting with a 10 speed (1-5 switch 6 -10). I dont have a shifter or clutch pedal but i do have a older logitech driving force.
What I would like to do is use the break pedal as a clutch, (ill use a button or something for brakes) and the fake gear shift handle for gear up /down. Important thing is that if im up shiftting (for example) the + on the gear handle goes into NEUTRAL with first + push/with clutch and into gear with 2nd push /clutch. Also on downshifting i would like it to require me to rpm up before being able to do same thing (by hitting gas while in neutral to gain rpms.
Simply put i need this to be as accurate as possible without an actual shifter. My rl instructor is awful.
Also are there any good mods that mimic real life braking more accurately? (brakes seem too easy and responsive in game).
I hope my questions and intent were clear and thanks.

[tesTTrucker]

For the shifting... Order a proper shifter (if you are USA citizen then it might be a lot cheaper for you) - you won't regret. And if I did understood you properly you're taking a truck driving class. So, at the end you would definitely benefit from proper shifter - if it saves you from fail you should consider it as a great investment. :)

Another thing, in game settings you have an option for brake sensitivity, i set it the scale on about 15 percent., and i found it a way realistic.

Hope you'll understand me. Sorry for bad English.

[Outlaw Trucker]

If you want to change to a non-synchronous transmission you just need to change a setting in your config file. Path to C:\Users\User Name\Documents\American Truck Simulator\profiles\ProfileNumber. Open the config file in there then hit ctrl+f to bring up the search box, search for the line: uset g_hshifter_synchronized "1". Simply change the 1 to 0 and Bob's Your Uncle! You'll now have to match your gears in order to shift. Hope that helps and happy

[Hiro Protagonist]

Originally posted by Bloomstomb:

hello all,
I dont have a shifter or clutch pedal but i do have a older logitech driving force. What I would like to do is use the break pedal as a clutch, (ill use a button or something for brakes)
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Also are there any good mods that mimic real life braking more accurately? (brakes seem too easy and responsive in game)

No offense, but you're going about this all wrong. Service brakes will never feel realistic if you're using a button instead of a pedal, and it'll be of no help in the real world if you're actually learning to drive a truck. I understand buying a full H-pattern/3-pedal combo can be expensive, but you're setting yourself up to fail spectacularly at worst, and do an overtly complicated and unrealistic process at best to try and replicate something that is dead-simple with a proper setup.

[Sandhill]

But keep in mind that even with very good pedals, wheel and shifter these games are about as much like driving a real vehicle as Madden Football is like playing football. You would learn more in five minutes shifting a real truck than you could in the SCS games in a lifetime.

[Hiro Protagonist]

Originally posted by Sandhill:

But keep in mind that even with very good pedals, wheel and shifter these games are about as much like driving a real vehicle as Madden Football is like playing football. You would learn more in five minutes shifting a real truck than you could in the SCS games in a lifetime.

I'd argue that at least you're using the same tools (rather than Madden where you're not throwing even a fake plastic ball), but you are right that anything less than a full-on 100% real-life simulator (think airline-grade) pales in comparison to real-world seat time.

[Sandhill]

Yes Madden was a terrible example, but I hate to see folks hope they'll gain meaningful driving experience (except perhaps some backing skill if you only use in cab, drivers seat view) from playing ATS or ETS2.

[Hiro Protagonist]

Originally posted by Sandhill:

Yes Madden was a terrible example, but I hate to see folks hope they'll gain meaningful driving experience (except perhaps some backing skill if you only use in cab, drivers seat view) from playing ATS or ETS2.

It is a useful tool for learning proper truck shift patterns etc which can be quite difficult for people who have only driven cars to learn (best to have a modified shift knob with the range/split selectors on it), and a good setup with triple-monitors and/or VR would definitely be beneficial to help give you an idea of how the truck and trailer behave when turning corners/reversing etc.

[Asigion]

I don't think anyone seriously thinks that a $20 game is going to translate into being able to drive a truck in real life. That to me is a given and always wonder why anyone would suggest players would seriously consider that and feel the need to point that out to players.

The idea of having a wheel, shifter, pedals, shift knob, tripple monitors. TrackIr or VR is just to make the game feel as real as possible. All within the limitations of the game.

Just to add: That does not mean skills can't be learned and many players have learned skills from the game and put those skills into practice. Some players have even gone on to become truck drivers in real life and have said that they benefited from learning how to reverse trailers in the game. Perhaps that is the same with the shifter and shift knob as well.

Edit: Corrected a typo.

[Sandhill]

"always wonder why anyone would suggest players would seriously consider that and feel the need to point that out to players. "

Originally posted by Bloomstomb:

hello all,
Simply put i need this to be as accurate as possible without an actual shifter. My rl instructor is awful.

That's why. Perhaps or we understood the OP differently.

[iPickleRick]

i use my thrustmaster joystick. i pulled the spring out of it, and made a file in xpadder to make it act as a shifter, buttons on the stick for my splitter and range.

[Asigion]

Originally posted by Sandhill:

"always wonder why anyone would suggest players would seriously consider that and feel the need to point that out to players. "

Originally posted by Bloomstomb:

hello all,
Simply put i need this to be as accurate as possible without an actual shifter. My rl instructor is awful.

That's why. Perhaps or we understood the OP differently.

We did understand the OP differently. I took it to mean he just wanted a way of practicing the coordination skill involved in double clutching using his available equipment.