map scaling?

[Sparky]

I know the scs team has a lot in works but does anyone know if theyre working on scaling the map up to the scale that ets2 is? i love ats dont get me wrong but it just doesnt have the feel that ets2 has, idk what it is about it but it just feels small

[Eagle Eye]

It's already been rescaled to match, well, 1:20 I believe, ETS2 is 1:19

http://blog.scssoft.com/2016/12/ats-world-rescale-is-released-in-update.html

[Sparky]

Hmm, i knew they did something but i didnt know it was fully up to scale, maybe its just my perspective with the larger tucks and the longer trailers, well.. anyways, thanks for the response :)

[Hiro Protagonist]

Remember too that ATS has higher speed limits than ETS2 (65mph vs 90km/h) so you travel the same distance ~15% faster. Also the highways are generally straighter so you can keep that speed up.

[TheLostPenguin]

Another reason it could feel small compared to ETS is the age of the games, and accordingly how much they've each grown through addons. I wouldn't doubt for a moment that ETS with all region DLCs gives you considerably more road milage than ATS does at present, but ATS is still young and we only have a few states in one corner of the US so far. If SCS can keep up a steady stream of new states for ATS we'll have the possibility for pretty epic journeys after a few years, which is after all the sort of timescale you need to think on, especially when you compare to the growth of ETS.

[Bill Paradise]

I hear Kiss is doing a reunion tour.

[Sparky]

Originally posted by TheLostPenguin:

Another reason it could feel small compared to ETS is the age of the games, and accordingly how much they've each grown through addons. I wouldn't doubt for a moment that ETS with all region DLCs gives you considerably more road milage than ATS does at present, but ATS is still young and we only have a few states in one corner of the US so far. If SCS can keep up a steady stream of new states for ATS we'll have the possibility for pretty epic journeys after a few years, which is after all the sort of timescale you need to think on, especially when you compare to the growth of ETS.

you make a good point, i live on the east coast and i hope they keep my interest long enough for me to be able to play it whilst they develop over toward the mid west and later on the east coast, almost makes me wonder if theyre going to have to scale up as the states get smaller as they move further east?

[J4MESOX4D]

Originally posted by asmiller747pilot:

I know the scs team has a lot in works but does anyone know if theyre working on scaling the map up to the scale that ets2 is? i love ats dont get me wrong but it just doesnt have the feel that ets2 has, idk what it is about it but it just feels small

ETS 2 has more roads and routes plus is bigger by area but the scale is the same, however there are more cities and larger cities in ETS 2 which further increases the size.

The rescale was back in November 2016 I believe going to 1.20 from 1.35 as California was majorly overhauled in places. It's crazy to remember we used to play this game with only two states and the 1.35 scale.

[Sparky]

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

Originally posted by asmiller747pilot:

I know the scs team has a lot in works but does anyone know if theyre working on scaling the map up to the scale that ets2 is? i love ats dont get me wrong but it just doesnt have the feel that ets2 has, idk what it is about it but it just feels small

ETS 2 has more roads and routes plus is bigger by area but the scale is the same, however there are more cities and larger cities in ETS 2 which further increases the size.

The rescale was back in November 2016 I believe going to 1.20 from 1.35 as California was majorly overhauled in places. It's crazy to remember we used to play this game with only two states and the 1.35 scale.

i agree, i was so hype for the game to come out and i cant wait to see their further development

[TheLostPenguin]

Originally posted by asmiller747pilot:

almost makes me wonder if theyre going to have to scale up as the states get smaller as they move further east?

Definitely going to be interesting how they handle both Texas being huge, and as you say the east coast states being comparitively small.
If they want to balance work required and value they could either split TX or have it uniquely be rather more expensive, as for the dinky east coast states I'd guess at bundles of 2-3 for the smaller ones perhaps. Cutting the prices would work in theory too, but there's possibly a risk of poor perceived value when people are by that time used to each map add-on gaining them a reasonably large chunk of extra route miles.

[Sparky]

Originally posted by TheLostPenguin:

Originally posted by asmiller747pilot:

almost makes me wonder if theyre going to have to scale up as the states get smaller as they move further east?

Definitely going to be interesting how they handle both Texas being huge, and as you say the east coast states being comparitively small.
If they want to balance work required and value they could either split TX or have it uniquely be rather more expensive, as for the dinky east coast states I'd guess at bundles of 2-3 for the smaller ones perhaps. Cutting the prices would work in theory too, but there's possibly a risk of poor perceived value when people are by that time used to each map add-on gaining them a reasonably large chunk of extra route miles.

exactly, though i wasnt thinking about how they were oging ot be sold that would also be in question, it will be interesting to see when they end up doing, as well as seeing which addons theyll be making in the future

[TheLostPenguin]

Originally posted by asmiller747pilot:

exactly, though i wasnt thinking about how they were oging ot be sold that would also be in question, it will be interesting to see when they end up doing, as well as seeing which addons theyll be making in the future

Well I expect we'll see all continous US states at a rate of 2-4 releases a year, since the plan is supposedly to start working on 2 states simultaneously once they get Oregon out the door. After that probably Canada and Alaska, then South to Mexico assumingly the game hasn't died/been completely usurped by something else at that stage and it's still financially worthwhile SCS making maps, after all it's American Truck Sim not US truck sim so there's no reason they can't eventually do the entirety of North America. If we do get to the stage (quite a few) years down the line where all of NA is ingame and the genre remains popular I guess it'd be time for a whole new engine and do ETS3 :)

[B_Wald]

Originally posted by Bill Paradise:

I hear Kiss is doing a reunion tour.

I see. We'll need more plates and napkins, then.

[Sparky]

Originally posted by TheLostPenguin:

Originally posted by asmiller747pilot:

exactly, though i wasnt thinking about how they were oging ot be sold that would also be in question, it will be interesting to see when they end up doing, as well as seeing which addons theyll be making in the future

Well I expect we'll see all continous US states at a rate of 2-4 releases a year, since the plan is supposedly to start working on 2 states simultaneously once they get Oregon out the door. After that probably Canada and Alaska, then South to Mexico assumingly the game hasn't died/been completely usurped by something else at that stage and it's still financially worthwhile SCS making maps, after all it's American Truck Sim not US truck sim so there's no reason they can't eventually do the entirety of North America. If we do get to the stage (quite a few) years down the line where all of NA is ingame and the genre remains popular I guess it'd be time for a whole new engine and do ETS3 :)

im hoping they stick with this and use the ETS team to develop ETS3 but if they do that, ATS will need the new engine and what not, otherwise bye bye and try again later down the road

[bigfoot3.1415926]

I don't think we need to worry about getting the whole US done by SCS (although, I hope SCS does end up making the whole US). Even, if SCS stops at some point, either the C2C guy or the Promods ATS team will fill in whatever doesn't get finished.

[Sparky]

Originally posted by bigfoot3.1415926:

I don't think we need to worry about getting the whole US done by SCS (although, I hope SCS does end up making the whole US). Even, if SCS stops at some point, either the C2C guy or the Promods ATS team will fill in whatever doesn't get finished.

vaild point, as i know they want "core content" it would be nice to see more modern truck series' and new trucks and upgrades to go along with the map expansion