Gearbox Layouts for 'Hidden' Gear Support

[Fury6]

So I worked up a set of gearbox layouts to support the 'hidden' gear in the 13 & 18 speed gearboxes (after a suggestion from player Hemi Czad). They were intended to be used with my E-F RTLO-xx913/18 transmission workshop mod, but then I decided to work up another set that can be used with the vanilla (or other mod) gearboxes that don't have the 'hidden' gears defined in the gearset.

Now, being that these are intended for generic 13/18 speed boxes, these don't work quite as well but that's unavoidable. The layout just repeats the low-range 4th gear into the 'hidden' gear slot which is pretty close for the 18 speed, but of course means the 'hidden' gear can't be split on the 13 speed boxes.

For those who don't know, the 'hidden' gear is in the Lo-Lo (left and down) slot but in the high-range gearset. IRL it's not recommended to use this gear (and the manufacturers expressly discourage it) due to the low-range ratio (high-torque) coupled with fewer and smaller main bearings supporting the main-shaft in the back-end gearset (the front-end mainshaft has several more and larger bearings as it is expected to cope with the much higher torque from the high-ratio gears of the low-range gearset, especially those huge crawler gears).

However, the gear *is* there and lots of drivers (for better or worse) do use it, mostly to avoid going down into low-range when slowing for a turn or at the crest of an easy hill, etc - well, now you can too and as a bonus in ATS we have no worries of dropping the gearbox onto the ground as a result of abusing it ;).

Get the layouts from this discussion topic on my workshop as well as a tiny bit more information.

For those who might just want the download link without going to the workshop:
steam://openurl/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-MLktU9UCN9uAfQqvrwyYXAadtlA2ck4/view?usp=sharing
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I'm not entirely sure if *all* 13 & 18 speed boxes have an accessible 'hidden' gear, but certainly many of them do, as well as the 8LL/9 speeds (which I may do at some later point, depending).

[Coal_Bucket_Outlaw]

This is cool dude, I may have to try this. I’m just so used to your 15 speed with the wrap around shift pattern, I find my self trying to shift the 18 speeds like a 15 speed and grind the hell out of it

[Fury6]

lol, don't feel bad - I do the exact same thing :)

[Coal_Bucket_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Fury6:

lol, don't feel bad - I do the exact same thing :)

Do you have any plans on 8 speeds, 8LL? I would love to have a decent 8 speed for my western star 4964. I’ve already added a few 15’s

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1301003070

[Fury6]

Not immediately, but I'm not gonna rule it out altogether.

[Leetpandaz]

Does this link have your 15 speed box? Or is it 13/18 exclusively?

[Fury6]

You can find the 15 speed gearbox & layouts on my ATS workshop page:

http://steamcommunity.com/id/fury6/myworkshopfiles/?appid=270880

[Fury6]

Ok well, I've got the 8LL transmission and layouts done. The transmissions only support the four vanilla trucks at the moment and are still in test so I won't be releasing them on the workshop as yet.

However I have put them up on my Google Drive for now for Coal_Bucket and anyone else who might be interested in giving them a try, I'll just give the general link to my Google Drive ATS folder here:

Google Drive ATS[drive.google.com]

The 8LL ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and layouts are in there among a small number of other ATS stuff. The 8LL ♥♥♥♥♥♥ has the hidden gear configured. There are two layouts for the two different shift patterns (strictly speaking the 908LL itself doesn't actually have the wrap-around pattern (that I know of) but anyway) and both ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and layouts support selection of the 'hidden' gear ('lo' position in high-range).

Coal_Bucket,
Modify as you like for your own truck, let me know if you have any problems.

[Hylton Trucking]

The older 8LLOD did have the wrap around pattern

[Fury6]

Originally posted by hyltontrucking:

The older 8LLOD did have the wrap around pattern

Sure, I know the 8LL series did have the wrap-around pattern but as far as I am aware not *this* gearbox specifically. Presumably (admittedly guessing here) the 608LL & 708LL which do have the wrap-around pattern have different gearing to this box? Not that it really matters as I'm not going to pull the wrap-around layout in any case :).

[Hylton Trucking]

Originally posted by Fury6:

Originally posted by hyltontrucking:

The older 8LLOD did have the wrap around pattern

Sure, I know the 8LL series did have the wrap-around pattern but as far as I am aware not *this* gearbox specifically. Presumably (admittedly guessing here) the 608LL & 708LL which do have the wrap-around pattern have different gearing to this box? Not that it really matters as I'm not going to pull the wrap-around layout in any case :).

Gotcha. I never drove one but a good friend of mine owned one in an 80s W9. His was the wrap around OD. As far as I know they were the same basic idea shift patterns like you did for your 15 speed. The 8LL was direct & 8LLOD was up agains the dash overdrive. But as far as the ratios, I don't have the foggiest idea. Was just putting my 2 cents worth in

[Fury6]

Originally posted by hyltontrucking:

[...] Was just putting my 2 cents worth in

I hope you didn't get the wrong idea, your 2 cents is always welcome =D. I just wanted to be more clear about my original meaning.

[Coal_Bucket_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Fury6:

Originally posted by hyltontrucking:

[...] Was just putting my 2 cents worth in

I hope you didn't get the wrong idea, your 2 cents is always welcome =D. I just wanted to be more clear about my original meaning.

Ok cool I will definitely add this to my western star 4964, thanks 😎

[Coal_Bucket_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Fury6:

Originally posted by hyltontrucking:

[...] Was just putting my 2 cents worth in

I hope you didn't get the wrong idea, your 2 cents is always welcome =D. I just wanted to be more clear about my original meaning.

And out of curiousity, do you know how to get trucks in-game and all of that good stuff? It just seems like you know a lot about modding lol..

[Fury6]

Originally posted by Coal_Bucket_Outlaw:

Originally posted by Fury6:

I hope you didn't get the wrong idea, your 2 cents is always welcome =D. I just wanted to be more clear about my original meaning.

And out of curiousity, do you know how to get trucks in-game and all of that good stuff? It just seems like you know a lot about modding lol..

Hmmm.. does this curiousity of yours have an end-goal in mind? lol.

[Coal_Bucket_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Fury6:

Originally posted by Coal_Bucket_Outlaw:

And out of curiousity, do you know how to get trucks in-game and all of that good stuff? It just seems like you know a lot about modding lol..

Hmmm.. does this curiousity of yours have an end-goal in mind? lol.

Lol it’s always good to have some modder friends in-case you need any help/advice on a project

I just got a Mack CHU613 to put in-game last night lol and I must admit, there’s gonna be a few things that I have absolutely no idea how to do lmao.