Mod vs DLC

[Mr Krabs]

In your opinion, is the Coast to Coast Mod more "worth it" than paying money to get DLC's for states, when the Coast to Coast Mod contains all 50 states able to be driven between and jobs to be taken in almost all of them? For me, It's more worth it. I just like the ability of driving between my Home state and dropping of deliveries in my cities. Just something that soothes the soul for me. I'm just asking for other's opinions on this matter. Yes, It does seem worthwhile, but Mods tend to break and It's not always working properly sometimes. Just to re-cap, do you think the Coast to Coast Mod is somewhat better than seperate DLC for the game?

[VoltageTHD]

There is a reason why Maps aren't on the steam workshop.

[robbieroy1996]

Sad to see some of the C2C bashing. This mod has come a looooong way from its beginning. I for one admire the work and dedication the mapmakers have put into this mod FOR FREE. I support buying every DLC as they come out but its nice to have the C2C to fill in the cracks.

[Nate]

coast to coast mod is a wasteland because swift was hired to carry nuclear material and nuclear weaponry lol

[n3mes1s]

The quality of C2C is mediocre at best compared with scs content, but the problem is, 11$ for each dlc is too much in any case. Now, the quality of each expansion from SCS is amazing, not only because of the quality of the sceneary but because of the OPTIMIZING AND POLISHING. This is very important. Map mods have a million times worst optimization than vanilla scs content. Coast to coast is not that bad in this matter, but mods like mexico extremo and viva mexico are terribly optimized and they are not even worthy to play in many situations.

Again, its more worthy to pay whatever the dlc cost, than saving money and replace it with coast to coast. By far. And because, you can also use coast to coast no matter the dlc you have. SCS expansions are coming very slowly so dont be afraid to try coast to coast and all map mods you can find because eventually you are going to do it.

Dont expect to find great scenery or quality assets on c2c. As a map mod is not bad, but as i said, its mediocre quality at best (compared with vanilla scs content) talking about landscapes, optimization and so on. C2C is more like a filling mod in many places than anything else, unfortunately. It is being reworked now, but it will need to pass a lot of time until c2c improves respect the vanilla scs content.

[n3mes1s]

Originally posted by voltagethd:

There is a reason why Maps aren't on the steam workshop.

Which is??

[n3mes1s]

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by Nite69:

actually you don't, mantrid released versions for those that don't have all the DLC states

Fair enough, but you should still get the DLC states to experience the full game. You can't judge ATS or ETS2 by mods.

ETS2 cant be judged without promods anymore. The expansions scs are adding to ETS2 are not enough to supply that demand of new territories. Fact is that experienced players just, CANT play ETS2 without promods. If you have been driving for YEARS through the same roads over and over again, there is a point where you just cant do it anymore unless you have anything else to explore, or remodeled areas, or expanded territories.

Same happens with ATS, the vanilla scs content is amazing, but its too small, unfortunately. You can drive through all the ATS map in literally one month. And another month to re-drive for the same territories again. If you are new to the game, i agree that you should just start with the vanilla game, because the scs content will be always no matter what better than any mod, specially because of the optimization. But once you have mapped every single road, well, you are going to want more.

Nobody is judging either game for the mods. As i said, vanilla scs content is always better, but limited. And mods are always good, i dont know why you would think that mods are bad for whatever reason. Mods are the reason many many many many games stay alive and evolving. If mods didnt exist.. well, the videogaming industry will be almost dead.

[Eric Duckman]

As the creator of Coast to Coast I would definitely get all the map DLC. There is a version of C2C that doesn't require any DLC's but it hasn't been updated in a long time. The thing about C2C is most people don't understand why it was created in the first place and they also think it is finished. The people who do use it (and there are thousands who do) enjoy not being confined to the SCS areas.

[n3mes1s]

Originally posted by Eric Duckman:

As the creator of Coast to Coast I would definitely get all the map DLC. There is a version of C2C that doesn't require any DLC's but it hasn't been updated in a long time. The thing about C2C is most people don't understand why it was created in the first place and they also think it is finished. The people who do use it (and there are thousands who do) enjoy not being confined to the SCS areas.

I am one of those who use it, and i like it, its true that the mod needs more polishing (im tired of seeing the same errors version after version xD) but as i said, mods are always good, no matter what (unless its a crappy mod that makes things worst of course lol) and you need to see em as an addition to the original game, not as something you cant live with. Unfortunately this could be applied to a new videogame , but ATS and ETS2 are old glories. Experienced players cant live without mods like c2c or promods anymore hahahahaha.

One thing that bothers me A LOT is that you guys really need to combine all us mods into one. Its getting ridiculous , to have 5 or 6 mods like usexpansion, going north, canadream, c2c, etc instead of just one that could cover everything.. is a real step back. I could say the same about mexico extremo , viva mexico, etc but i really dont care to much about those since they are terrible mods until they actually optimize em. But well, same example.

[Underscore_101_3]

Originally posted by Nite69:

Originally posted by Underscore_101_3:

I've replied to this before, but i'm starting to wonder if i'm going mental,.... the OP's question can be answered by just one simple comment, "you need DLCS to play C2C"

actually you don't, mantrid released versions for those that don't have all the DLC states

I don't know all the versions he has released, but the current version does need 3 dlcs, other than that i ASSUMED he would make them a requirement for future versions, if you had read my first post about it.

Another assumption is that the releases you are refering to do not work in 1.35, and MAY even be made before there were state dlcs, i don't know if that is true or not.

[EDIT]: And i just read a post from Eric about 2 posts up :-) my reply came from a post on page2, hadn't read page 3 yet.

If he makes a complete map of North America that doesn't need any dlcs (but does use scs content and works in recent versions of the game) he will get into trouble with SCS, specially when over time it gets better.

Anyways, my statement still stands, unless you want to play way old versions of ats or are good with modding/mapping and can make changes yourself :-) .

[n3mes1s]

Originally posted by Underscore_101_3:

If he makes a complete map of North America that doesn't need any dlcs (but does use scs content and works in recent versions of the game) he will get into trouble with SCS, specially when over time it gets better.

That will never happen because
a) the quality of any map mod is always a million times inferior than scs vanilla content (in ATS. In ETS2 promods could be almost as equal as scs content talking about quality with the exception of a few bugs).
b) it doesnt matter if it covers the entire map, it will still need the vanilla content unless the mod its made like an entire new standalone map. And no, he wont get in trouble with SCS because its been done in the past, and its perfectly ok. A standalone map doesnt need any dlc, because well, its an entire new map.

[STARLITE 1]

now for all you stupid and dumb idiots that put c2c down , i want to know from you , what does it take to make a dlc
i already know ,but i want to know from the stupid dummys that put c2c down

[OpaleXiss]

Most of c2c is gawdawful. Buggy, invisible walls, endless and pointless empty fields with a road going through it.. just to say it has more area. c2c almost ruined the game for me personally. Took all the fun out of it in exchange for more driving space, woo. I didn't like it at all.
Just my two coppers.

[Underscore_101_3]

Originally posted by n3mes1s:

Originally posted by Underscore_101_3:

If he makes a complete map of North America that doesn't need any dlcs (but does use scs content and works in recent versions of the game) he will get into trouble with SCS, specially when over time it gets better.

"a) the quality of any map mod is always a million times inferior than scs vanilla content"

I can't say that it's not true, but it's open for interpretation, i haven't played every map out there, but most (standalone) maps i've played have given me more pleasure in playing the game than the vanilla scs game, in my opinion quality of the software/coding, whatever it is, doesn't always outweigh the awesome scenery i see in map mods.
i don't mind if there's a bug here and there.

"b) And no, he wont get in trouble with SCS because its been done in the past, and its perfectly ok. A standalone map doesnt need any dlc, because well, its an entire new map"

Have you seen a standalone map that's a threat to scs sales?
Standalone or not, dlcs or not, the discussion was about c2c, which i think is a really nice map and a great addition to the game, it already has many users, and i for one see it's potential of it being an awesome map that would effect scs sales when it gets better if it didn't need dlcs, which it does atm, using the fact that there were versions in times long past that didn't need them is not relevant to the discussion, which i'm also going to end now.

Have a nice day :-)

[Royce]

Originally posted by Robinicus:

C2C has come a long way; the challenge with it is the area they are covering is massive and there are multiple contributors doing different areas. For those reasons, some areas are very good, some are not so good but it does add a different dimension to the game whether it is perfect or not. Florida for example, has been done fairly well, especially the area down around the Keys; Texas on the other hand for example, has a very long way to go.

If you want to look at a map mod that would be more comparable to a DLC, I would suggest Viva Mexico; Hugoes has done a fantastic job with creating the feel of actually being in MX and has also created a ton of unique assets for scenery and towns.

Neither one are as good as DLC and you can expect to find some errors but they both add new things to the game which is a good thing.

The one I am really waiting for is the Pro Mods version of Canada...you just know that is going to be high quality, DLC level content...do a search for Squirell's video of their Iceland map if you want to see what is possible.

Here is one example (keep in mind, this is the level of work they were at 3 years ago now) but he has many showcasing Iceland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzcJ26RbIuA

Nice point Robinicus Thank you for sharing this.

[Eric Duckman]

C2C has no bugs or invisible walls & if it did all you have to do is report it and I'll fix it.