So about development and DLC

[Tiretracker]

I'm gonna give SCS the benefit of the doubt here, considering how much they have given us in terms of optimization for my potato PC, of which few other developers even think about these days. I even have the option to run this game entirely with Direct X. And because, which came as a big surprise to me, because of that the game having came out only last year.

Now, about America... So far all we got is California, Nevada, and Arizona... now New Mexico as a 12 dollar DLC. I think 45 states remaining, assuming they'll cover it in its entirety.

Tell me, is the rest of America going to be paid DLC? 20 bucks plus 12 for each state that gets developed? Or are they going to alternate free DLC with paid stuff... ?

it seems very stark contrast to the COUNTRIES you can go to in in the base game of ETS2.
And yes I realize the game is still fresh, so no I'm not jumping to conclusions but I can't help but think. I'm sure I'm not the only one with the question.

Don't go all EA on me now.

[Reese]

As it stands, there are 46 states remaining and SCS has hinted that they have good progress on the next state already. But basing the pricing of all future state DLC on a single state is a bit dumb. As seen with ETS2 land-expansions, the price varies based on size, quality, and the amount of content.

SCS has stated in the past that most, if not all, future states would be paid DLC. If you don't want to take my word on that, you're free to hunt through 6 pages of ATS blog posts yourself for it.

Let's say all the west coast states will be that $12 each. Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Texas, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Kansas. That's 12 states at $12 a peice. We're at $155.87 including New Mexico, but not including sales.

Now we're left with 34 states. Let's exclude Hawaii and Alaska cause I don't see either of them within the next 10 years. As states get smaller, we may get 2-3 states for that $11.99. I can fit KOI(Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio) into a single New Mexico. If we assume we get packs of states as we go east, that's 11.3 packs we'd have to buy at $11.99. That brings our total for unreleased DLC to $135.87.

We're at $292 for state DLC. Put the base game price of $20 on top of that and we're at just over $300 for the entirety of the country, though excluding Hawaii and Alaska.

If we include sales, we probably could get about $100 off over that total. I believe this is reasonable and just like Train sim, only the people that want to pay for it, should pay for it. Everyone else, well they can buy whatever they fancy.

Edit: Please future posters. Don't turn this into a spam thread. Keep it civil.

[Hypertext Eye]

Considering the rate at which map DLC is being released, $12 per isn't asking much.

[Reese]

Originally posted by Hypertext Eye:

Considering the rate at which map DLC is being released, $12 per isn't asking much.

I think the major rebutal to that is that from our "following progress" view is acceptable for such a price, but what about someone paying for it all up front?

[baddog993]

Riddle me this OP do you like getting paid for your work? Or do you work for free? How exactly are they going to pay for their employees if they give you and everyone else stuff for free?? Map take a lot of time to make and requires a lot of man hours to make.

Do you work 40 hours at a job and expect to be paid? Same with this company. They make a product and set a price for it. If you dont want to buy it then dont buy it. Also America is bigger then the EU.

[margalus]

Originally posted by Hypertext Eye:

Considering the rate at which map DLC is being released, $12 per isn't asking much.

It's not outrageous, but it is a little bit high for dlc compared to the base game price. It is also high compared to dlc for ETS2. France had 12,500 miles of new road and countryside for $18, NM had 4000 miles of new road and countryside for $12, 1/3 as much yet the price was 2/3.

[Ξ Sikon]

It is very hard to compare train sim and ATS because Dovetail Games is a garbage dump of a company. SCS will at least fix bugs; not to mention they constantly improve the game through free updates.

That being said, It is doubtful that SCS will even come close to reaching the mississippi river before this game loses popularity. They never said this simulator would include all of the U.S. and after taking 10 months to create a single state, I doubt they can complete north america. The level of detail they incorporate in their work is incredible and very impressive, but the pace they create content is .

I have a feeling they need to choose between a small chunk of america in high detail or the entirety of NA in relitively low detail.

[AyMazingATS]

Why do people just go for the 46 states left at $12 argument? This is a total unfair argument and shows how much of a lack of knowledge there is about US Geography.

East coast states are smaller and more than likely you will see packs of states on the east coast, if SCS ever gets that far.

I prefer posts that state truth from legitimate sources; not unjust speculation and bashing.

[Tiretracker]

Well jesus I didn't know this was fox news and you can't speak without doing years of research on something, and that everything you say and don't say will be used against you.

I'm not a long-time follower of this series, you shouldn't expect me to be. I only bought the game last month. I don't have any previous experience with their releases. For ♥♥♥♥♥ sake it was a simple question.

I never made a statement "oh well gee these guys must suck" I said "Well, what's it going to be? I have no idea what to expect."

Remind me never to ask anything ever again becuase apparently I'm hitler for doing so.
You people, my god.

[Reese]

The bad responses are from the people who think they're high and mighty and have zero tolerance for repeated questions and complaints. I gave you an honest answer based on their previous pricing. However, you aren't the first person to make such a post(whether intentionally or accidentally complaining) and we've had very many like it in just the past 12 hours alone. Ever since 1.29/New Mexico released, there have been dozens upon dozens of threads like this one. Most of the responses are from irrational people.

[Hypertext Eye]

Originally posted by Reese's Cup:

Originally posted by Hypertext Eye:

Considering the rate at which map DLC is being released, $12 per isn't asking much.

I think the major rebutal to that is that from our "following progress" view is acceptable for such a price, but what about someone paying for it all up front?

Obviously there will be bundles and sales. There's no way to know right now what the "final price" for the whole package will be.

Originally posted by margalus:

Originally posted by Hypertext Eye:

Considering the rate at which map DLC is being released, $12 per isn't asking much.

It's not outrageous, but it is a little bit high for dlc compared to the base game price. It is also high compared to dlc for ETS2. France had 12,500 miles of new road and countryside for $18, NM had 4000 miles of new road and countryside for $12, 1/3 as much yet the price was 2/3.

Fair point I guess but I still feel like $12 is practically nothing for what we are getting.

Originally posted by A Deep Commitment To Konata:

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Overreact much?

[J.B,s Trucking]

The good news is New Mexico is here and not only is there new roads and Cities there is also many improvements that show a promising future. Worth the $11.99 .

[alteredStateOfTheEast()]

Ive been arguing this point for awhile because New Mexico is a basic state and really not that different from Arizona. So meaning states like NC, SC, Florida, New York could possibly cost more as they have mountiains, curvy roads, thick forests, swamps, city scapes and so on.
Like I can actually understand 12$ for North Carolina as anyone who drove through it can call witness to the fact that it's mountainous and has got massive amounts of change to it. elevation and complication of the land. And I live in California and had to drive across America from California to North Carolina and back.

[Reese]

SCS ran into issues implementing elevation changes back in California. California used to be a lot flatter in the game due to there not being enough room to actually put in proper elevation changes. With the rescale, it helped and they were able to makes things a little steeper. North Carolina wouldn't be all that different in that regard. At most, we'll have more trees. But long, 45minute to hour long hill climbs? Nope.

We have those in New Mexico. On the same scale at ETS2. Sure they aren't 45 minute to hour long hill climbs, but they are major elevation changes for the scale we currently have. There's just a lack of thick trees like in North Carolina.

I can't see $12 for a state the third of the size of New Mexico. Maybe if Tenessee is included with it, but not on its' own. The furthest I've been into NC is Cherokee and that was because the Smokey Mountains from Tenessee led into it. The drive up was really nice.

[wolfedg]

Originally posted by Sikon:

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I have a feeling they need to choose between a small chunk of america in high detail or the entirety of NA in relitively low detail.

They have already made that choice with the choice I would've chose 'quality' and left the other one 'quantity' to the modders who have already done that for them.

Originally posted by A Deep Commitment To Konata:

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it seems very stark contrast to the COUNTRIES you can go to in in the base game of ETS2.

A simple comparison of the area of the States and Countries in question might suprise you. Here check this out https://mapfight.appspot.com/california-vs-de/california-us-germany-size-comparison Be sure to play around with the states and countries.

[Tiretracker]

Originally posted by Hypertext Eye:

Fair point I guess but I still feel like $12 is practically nothing for what we are getting.

Originally posted by A Deep Commitment To Konata:

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Overreact much?

It would be, if only this wasn't the same tonal response I get from people for asking almost anything price related on steam forums.

Its why I usually keep to myself, to avoid pretentious ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like you, mister "snip rant."
Not that you care, to you I'm just another internet troll who has no feelings and probably doesn't exist. You're all the same.