DOUBLE TRAILERS with DOLLY -> REVERSING possible?

[KingJ]

Hi i try to reverse double trailers with dolly sometimes for advanced parking spots but i never get it right. Is it possible? Someone got a TUTORIAL Video? I can drive normal dolly trailers like we use it in europe but i never find the sweet spot for reversing AMERICAN Doubletrailers with dolly on the second trailer because if you try to correct steer the first semi trailer to steer the dolly you dont have enough room and feel to get it right and it collapses. The only thing i can do is reversing it in a stright line for some meters.

[zodicus626]

Sure it's possible. I've done it once or twice IRL. I know an Estes driver and long time friend of mine that pulls into the truckstop, lines up to a spot, and backs in for his DOT break rather than sit at the fuel islands like everyone else these days. Personally, I just think he's a huge show off.

In game, you shouldn't need to reverse much if at all. The spots have more than enough room to maneuver into and get straight. Just like IRL, be slow, methodical and drive the tail with your mirrors going forward to line it up and hit the sweet spot.

[PvtStash]

The more tyres the dolly has the easier they are to reverse, the dolly reacts slower. Single axle dolly=pita, they turn very quickly so if you don't react quick enough you will jack-knife it. Multiple single pivots makes it even worse and the game pivots aren't quite right either so things are compounded. Makes it more challenging and more satisfying when you get it right.

Keep trying and eventually it will all come together, I don't like un-hooking dog trailers irl so I tend to jack-knife tip. IE I am looking at the tail lights on the dog from the cab, then you can pull around a bit and tip the truck on the same pile and not have to un-hook/re-hook. Happy truckin'.

[Polacanthus]

I just managed to do it... but it really seems to be way too hard. I prefer the skilled parking anywhere, but these Bitumen street cunstruction sides give me a very hard time when I use doubles... and for whatever reason it did not show me the skip parking dialogue... after a 2 hour ride I sure wasn't ok discard that WOT job.

It took me a good ten minutes to achieve this:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/961973556163639180/DA1631A8F9749FEBFFAE5D145120B79DF7CFCF16/

I feel like I shortened my steering wheels live by a few days trying this... to lock the dolly would really help a lot. To get it in line is the easy part, but to keep that while backing seems impossible.

[Stew]

Originally posted by PvtStash:

I drive them. We back them up. End.

Yes you can back them up a little but not the way a lot of these guys are wanting to. I drove for 17 years 10 of them with doubles at Lazarus and FedEx Freight. The company will allow you to back straight for the distance of the tractor and trailers after that you can be written up and even fired. They do not like you doing manuvers that can damage equipment and most guys will damage equipment so they make sure this does not happen. But it can be done at FedEx we had a guy that could back the back trailer into a dock while hooked up to the set. Once FedEx found out, he was written up with the next write up being fired.

[Stew]

Originally posted by Reese's Cup Nyaapasu~:

Possible? Yes. There's a reason UPS and FedEx only run the shortest daycabs on them. They reverse these trailers daily. And during the winter season, they got to reverse them up quick or they'll fall behind schedule and possibly get fired.

I've only reversed the in-game doubles once and it took me over an hour to get them into the spot. I've reversed the heavy cargo with a stinger at the end multiple times though. That one ain't too bad thanks to the front dolly.

Actually at FedEx Freight we were not allowed to back them up except for the length of the tractor and trailers. To hook up you would make sure your four ways were on at all times in the yard (most companies require this), get your dolly and put it in front of your back trailer and then go get your front trailer and line it up. Hook up the dolly onto the pintle hook, close the lock on the pintle hook, back the dolly into the back trailer locking the fifth wheel, do a tug test, and pull the parking brake. You would then hook the gladhands/electric line and dolly chains up, close the air release valve on the air tank, check the dolly fifth wheel make sure the locking arm was in, visually check the locking bar was in place behind the rear trailer king pin, open the gladhand air valves on the back of the front trailer, put the landing gear up on the rear trailer, go back to the cab push in the trailer supply valve, place a claw hammer on the trailer brake handle to hold it down, listen for air leaks, check brakes, thump tires, check all lights, go to the back of trailer check lights/brake lights, open the back gladhand valves to make sure air was flowing all the way through the system, match trailer seals with paperwork, walk back up the right side of trailer checking everything, also make sure all hazmat placs were not showing if not pulling hazmat, and match the front trailer seal with paperwork.

[Elwenil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05lVyEYOaPA&t=1023s

[SternLX]

Oh FFS people. They don't back doubles in a Yard for safety reasons. They split the rear trailer off the Dolly and use a Yard Tractor(a.k.a. Yard Dogs, Spotter Trucks, Yard Jockey, or Mule) to move the trailers around and dock them.

[PvtStash]

Originally posted by Stew:

Originally posted by PvtStash:

I drive them. We back them up. End.

Yes you can back them up a little but not the way a lot of these guys are wanting to. I drove for 17 years 10 of them with doubles at Lazarus and FedEx Freight. The company will allow you to back straight for the distance of the tractor and trailers after that you can be written up and even fired. They do not like you doing manuvers that can damage equipment and most guys will damage equipment so they make sure this does not happen. But it can be done at FedEx we had a guy that could back the back trailer into a dock while hooked up to the set. Once FedEx found out, he was written up with the next write up being fired.

Mate, been driving them for over 30 years, doubles tripples and road train. I've had to reverse combinations 5km up driveways because there was no turn point at the top. I drive t/dog all the time, we jack-knife tip them. Had to put 4 trailer combos in road houses backwards to unload. Some companies don't like you doing it, sometimes you have no choice. Happy truckin'.

[Polacanthus]

In ATS I'd say it's impossible to reverse with anything beyond a double. I made it, but I still do not really know how. Maybe though, it just takes an awful lot of practice. A triple though... is behaving far too chaotic.

[DLM]

Doubles are doable if you have some room and you can get the trailers almost straight already.

I find these parking spots at grocery stores pretty hard because you have to make a tight turn to enter the parking lot and at the same time the game wants you to straighten your double right ahead since there is such a short distance between the entrance and the parking spot:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1208002014

so I most often end at an angle:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1208002072

Now there is still enough room to back up, keep the whole group as straight as possible and then enter the parking spot correctly:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1208101271

[MiserableGamer]

Watch some Outback Truckers.....they drive triples and those guys can back them up to hook up each trailer...they got something like 8 pivot points to deal with!!