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Zekumas Jul 8, 2017 @ 7:58am
B-Trains....
Now I'm not dissing these mods, infact I think they are awesome its just that here in the US, our double trailers are nothing like these.

The standard doubles is two 20' trailer with a single axle dolley hooked to the first trailer to haul the second trailer.

Just thought I would share that bit of info. But keep up the good work on all the wonderful mods.
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Hylton Trucking Jul 8, 2017 @ 8:05am 
They do use the B doubles in some states, Michigan comes to mind. And New York & a few other states allow double 48' trailers on the toll roads. But for the most part, you're right. Standard doubles are short pup trailers
Zekumas Jul 8, 2017 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by hyltontrucking:
They do use the B doubles in some states, Michigan comes to mind. And New York & a few other states allow double 48' trailers on the toll roads. But for the most part, you're right. Standard doubles are short pup trailers

Well I do know that Nevada allows double 40's, but they use a dolley aswell.
Hylton Trucking Jul 8, 2017 @ 8:13am 
Yes they do. But the B doubles are used here in the US, just in very limited areas. The first time I saw one it didn't have the second trailer and it took me a minute to figure out what the hell I was looking at. LOL. A trailer with a 5th wheel? Yup
TW Jul 8, 2017 @ 8:54am 
Yea, these silly doubles are about sick... They are not US trailers. I will not download anything that is not suppose to be in US. Canada and Mexico maybe...To me this is not part of American Truck Simulator.... Those belong in Euro truck games...This game is called AMERICAN TRUCK SIMULATOR......
ginger-welsh Jul 8, 2017 @ 9:09am 
Originally posted by TW:
Yea, these silly doubles are about sick... They are not US trailers. I will not download anything that is not suppose to be in US. Canada and Mexico maybe...To me this is not part of American Truck Simulator.... Those belong in Euro truck games...This game is called AMERICAN TRUCK SIMULATOR......

They are extensively used in North America, specifically Canada, on specified routes and are allowed in USA, but are scarce because they are still covered by the same puny weight limit of 80,000 lb and are therefore not generally economical to run, with high density cargoes

From 3.00 min.

https://youtu.be/X53_DK_oZtQ?t=2m51s

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Last edited by ginger-welsh; Jul 8, 2017 @ 9:24am
TW Jul 8, 2017 @ 9:13am 
I just don't like them because they do not have the dolly and way to many axles....
ginger-welsh Jul 8, 2017 @ 10:12am 
Here is a Mack variation, which includes the exact tanker B combo, as the excellent Trayscapes mod.

https://youtu.be/Y69mBM-jKsg

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Trucker64 Jul 8, 2017 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by ginger-welsh:
Originally posted by TW:
Yea, these silly doubles are about sick... They are not US trailers. I will not download anything that is not suppose to be in US. Canada and Mexico maybe...To me this is not part of American Truck Simulator.... Those belong in Euro truck games...This game is called AMERICAN TRUCK SIMULATOR......

They are extensively used in North America, specifically Canada, on specified routes and are allowed in USA, but are scarce because they are still covered by the same puny weight limit of 80,000 lb and are therefore not generally economical to run, with high density cargoes

From 3.00 min.

https://youtu.be/X53_DK_oZtQ?t=2m51s

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They are covered under the 65ft truck and trailer laws such as campers and other trailers pulled by non commercial vehicles.. Semi truck and trailers have a 53ft limit and 57ft in some states. Doubles are limited to two 33ft trailers max length Got this from a DOT site..
morrisonjake05 Jul 8, 2017 @ 10:59pm 
It's Australian these b and triples.. not Europe lol.. our weight limit is 100 tonnes plus
Last edited by morrisonjake05; Jul 8, 2017 @ 11:01pm
TwinShadow Jul 9, 2017 @ 2:58am 
Canada, Europe, and Australia all use B-Type trailers when doing doubles or triples. (well, those that allow them)

Other countries can use them, but the US in large part does not.
geomodelrailroader Sep 20, 2019 @ 10:12pm 
B Trains can only be used in Washington with a permit and some places in Oregon but not south of the Columbia River every other state including California and the Pacific Northwest they are illegal you will be overweight if you bring this trailer into their state.
topper Sep 20, 2019 @ 10:33pm 
Originally posted by geomodelrailroader:
B Trains can only be used in Washington with a permit and some places in Oregon but not south of the Columbia River every other state including California and the Pacific Northwest they are illegal you will be overweight if you bring this trailer into their state.

I haven't played with those IRL for a couple of years now, but back around 2014/2015, I would run them in Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. Everywhere else was a big No-no.

Idaho, Oregon and Washington only allowed them to scale 105,500 pounds gross and had to follow standard axle weight restrictions. The other states just used the bridge formula as far as I remember.

But that was years ago, and the rules may have changed, since I don't work for a company that does them, I don't have to pay attention to that part of the rule book, so I don't. lolz
Last edited by topper; Sep 20, 2019 @ 10:37pm
geomodelrailroader Sep 20, 2019 @ 11:02pm 
Originally posted by topper4125:
Originally posted by geomodelrailroader:
B Trains can only be used in Washington with a permit and some places in Oregon but not south of the Columbia River every other state including California and the Pacific Northwest they are illegal you will be overweight if you bring this trailer into their state.

I haven't played with those IRL for a couple of years now, but back around 2014/2015, I would run them in Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. Everywhere else was a big No-no.

Idaho, Oregon and Washington only allowed them to scale 105,500 pounds gross and had to follow standard axle weight restrictions. The other states just used the bridge formula as far as I remember.

But that was years ago, and the rules may have changed, since I don't work for a company that does them, I don't have to pay attention to that part of the rule book, so I don't. lolz
thanks for clarifying.
Chulachaser May 7, 2020 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by geomodelrailroader:
B Trains can only be used in Washington with a permit and some places in Oregon but not south of the Columbia River every other state including California and the Pacific Northwest they are illegal you will be overweight if you bring this trailer into their state.

I haven't played with those IRL for a couple of years now, but back around 2014/2015, I would run them in Idaho, Montana, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. Everywhere else was a big No-no.

Idaho, Oregon and Washington only allowed them to scale 105,500 pounds gross and had to follow standard axle weight restrictions. The other states just used the bridge formula as far as I remember.

But that was years ago, and the rules may have changed, since I don't work for a company that does them, I don't have to pay attention to that part of the rule book, so I don't. lolz
thanks for clarifying.




All this discussion about B trains only being in Australia, Europe, northern west US, etc. etc. I feel I must add that here in the south, Texas, B trains are all over. Mainly used by companies such as FedEx, UPS, Estes, Old Dominican, etc. I could very well be wrong, but I believe they all use 28' pups. Also, I've seen comments saying trains are illegal or frowned upon in California, but when I was there some years ago. I felt as though, from observation, that trains were more of a standard. Versus 53' or even 48's
Robinicus May 7, 2020 @ 5:44am 
There are many variations allowed in different regions; here (western Canada) super B, tridem/tridem and 2 x 53' are very common combinations. At some point they may homogenize the legislation as it costs the industry a lot of money the way it is now having to spec so many different combinations.
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