Groves are terrible

[CuriousJess]

I just came back to the game and the groves are horrible. This did not solve the problem of not being able to get the purple trees. It made it so much worse.

There is nothing fun about this only multiplayer aspect of the game. Why won't they listen to people on Reddit etc. that are fed up like me?

[Ailes]

Publicado originalmente por CuriousJess:

Saying "expletive" to a huge group of the community is why this game isn't improving. And obviously I'm one of those "entitled basement dwellers" so you're making your point to the wrong audience.

I've never seen a purple tree outside of groves. It's difficult to find obviously or I would have seen one. The groves were supposed to improve the situation but now it's waiting until midnight and hoping you can make it all the way across the map in time to participate or you wait a whole other hour game time. Where before if you missed a tree there would be more spawning.

I don't know how many players are on Reddit. I wasn't talking about you specifically.

But I have seen devs of other games make questionable design choices based on the feedback they got from there or similar places when it doesn't seem to be much of a secret that only a small fraction of players visits these. Even here on Steam there are like only a few dozen handful or so of people taking part in the discussions - even though a whooping 5k have reviewed the game and according to the storefront's metrics "mostly positive" at that. Many of these people will never voice their opinions here and probably not on Reddit, Twitter, the official Discord and so on either.

I strongly believe that the best way to get a good impression of what an actual majority of people (and not a loud minority) thinks is to ask them >inside< the respective game via ingame polls or whatever.

[Ailes]

Publicado originalmente por stretch:

Publicado originalmente por JimmyJohn:

I have found plenty of flow trees outside of groves and many I can cut down alone unless they are big ones. Sounds more to me like people are just complaining because they would rather be antisocial instead of spending just a few minutes around other people.

[...] I thought the little tool you can make to track rare items might help with this but I never tried it. [...]

Yes, that forageable tracker item should show flow trees. Very sure it did when I used it to find Dari Cloves and such.

[CuriousJess]

The amount of people coming here to saying reddit users like me are toxic is actually toxic. You are toxic lol... I was just posting my opinion on this game. I didn't call y'all names or curse. It's really ridiculous to be called horrible names for just having a differed opinion.

[Ailes]

Publicado originalmente por CuriousJess:

The amount of people coming here to saying reddit users like me are toxic is actually toxic. You are toxic lol... I was just posting my opinion on this game. I didn't call y'all names or curse. It's really ridiculous to be called horrible names for just having a differed opinion.

If you want to make this about you then go ahead. I already said I didn't mean you particularily. Reddit is a toxic cesspool in my opinion and devs of any game shouldn't rely on the opinions given there. I would be saying this regardless of whether you were active there yourself or not. If you feel the need to defend Reddit then maybe you should ask yourself why plenty of people don't like it. There are reasons for that.

But just for protocol I think the Steam discussions can be very terrible too. By design. Like the amount of people lying and trolling with deliberately unpopular opinions and hot takes just to farm some jester awards especially when a new game releases is unreal. I wish Valve would do something against this. But engagement is engagement I guess, they probably don't give a f*ck as long as we are active.

EDIT: I only just now saw what some others wrote. The last message on page 1 isn't very helpful. If that's what you're referring to then I guess I understand your anger. And I admit that I overstepped with that basement dweller remark too, even if I stand by what I wrote about it not being aimed towards your person specifically. I will still try to do better in the future. Sorry.

[J Beefy]

People, just download Overwolf and get the Palia map if you are on PC. If you're on switch I dont have anything unfortunately. Maybe group up with someone who is on PC.

https://palia.th.gl/en/download

Edit: Added link

[Cara]

I appreciate the groves because I know that at least once every in-game cycle I can get some flow wood. Very rarely, someone will cut down the grove without announcing it to anyone, but most of the time, I can participate. The community is really very good about waiting for people, in my experience. I also encounter flow trees regularly outside of groves, but the groves are my primary source of flow. That's not to say I wouldn't be fine with them just having more flow trees available all the time as opposed to groves, but this is better than having only a very few trees and no real way to stock up.

[ipegasus]

If you need just flow wood to build stuff? A faster way is to chop down lots of trees. This will move up your ranks to lvl 10 Than you can buy flow wood from Anders at the Inn at night. He can be found some of the time in the daytime. Once friends? He'll even sell when it says he is asleep if desperate. Use the map. He sells the wood for around 6 pts. Good deal and easy to get up to lvl ten. Just chop more wood to gain tokens for cheap flow wood.

Usually, as mentioned, flow groves show up at 12 mid. Most people will send up flares if they have them. Nice to carry some when in the woods. Use term omw in chat if you find you are not near a grove at that time. As mentioned, people are now usually waiting until 3am, game time before chopping.

I will always check the area if I find a random one that is at least medium sized. Most people are polite and will look for anyone who signals omw. Understanding that if you really need this kind of wood, you may be on the wrong side of Bahari Bay.

I hope this helps. Palium? I do not know what is up with that. It use to be easy to find. Now? Not in common spaces most of my days. If I really need it? I buy it from Hodari. They now have it showing up randomly around the woods but this too is very random. Best bet is still collect a lot of iron/copper/stone so you can reach lvl ten, buy it from Hodari.

Lvl up Hassian to 10? Cheap arrows. Do not waste your palium on them. He sells them for 10 tokens for 10. Just shoot easy to target deers near camp to raise up your lvls and if you need collect pts for tokens.

[stealthXG]

Publicado originalmente por stretch:

Sometimes there were so many there I wondered how everyone found it so easily and if there was a really simple trick I don't know.

I usually play solo but don't mind the forced social aspect of the groves I just never found the limited time of day and searching bit any fun at all.

There is a trick to finding them. When they spawn they make a sound and that sound comes from a specific direction. Head it that direction and you'll find it.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Publicado originalmente por stealthXG:

Publicado originalmente por stretch:

Sometimes there were so many there I wondered how everyone found it so easily and if there was a really simple trick I don't know.

I usually play solo but don't mind the forced social aspect of the groves I just never found the limited time of day and searching bit any fun at all.

There is a trick to finding them. When they spawn they make a sound and that sound comes from a specific direction. Head it that direction and you'll find it.

This, you have to be prepared. You can't just wander in at 3am and hope to stumble into it.

[Rajalampi]

Stand at Bahari Central stables at midnight, you'll hear the grove sound from anywhere on the map. Eventually you will learn all the places it can spawn and can take the closest fasttravel to where it most likely spawned.

[EnForceR]

Publicado originalmente por Rajalampi:

Stand at Bahari Central stables at midnight, you'll hear the grove sound from anywhere on the map. Eventually you will learn all the places it can spawn and can take the closest fasttravel to where it most likely spawned.

Why should he learn, bro? He want it to be displayed on the map & have a button "move to grove+chop" attached on "esc" menu for conveniece. Devs also should send him a pizza as an excuse for his previous uncomfortability...

[MadDawg2552]

Publicado originalmente por EnForceR:

Why should he learn, bro? He want it to be displayed on the map & have a button "move to grove+chop" attached on "esc" menu for conveniece. Devs also should send him a pizza as an excuse for his previous uncomfortability...

Yes! Sign me up for that, too!

[Frieren]

I always send up a flare when i find pallium. The grove mostly spawns on in Bahari where the home gate is (all that area) but it can spawn on the side where Hodari is (Temple ruins, and the top level (where the top entrance is) of the mines on that side too.

[kyleblane]

Publicado originalmente por indigo:

So if you want heard, make sure you're actually talking where they're listening.

The private place where the good ideas they want to ignore aren't public and can't gain community support. They look at Reddit and Discord just enough to ban people for questioning decisions they aren't willing to reconsider.

[MadDawg2552]

Publicado originalmente por Sascha X:

you guys do realise if you finished the bundles in the nightwing temple, that you get a baby overseer for your house who produices seeds 1 time per day, ...

You do? You'll have to explain that one to me, because I didn't get a baby overseer.