The people saying it's too easy...

[dannyaic]

I've seen people claiming it's too easy, they steamroll everything, etc. I think a few thigns might be happening:

1. You did a stupid amount of griniding
2. You're not playing on draconian mode.
3. You're not past the first few areas.
4. You're cheating.
5. You're lying.
6. You're cheating and lying.

I have spoken

[RadicalDreamer1999]

I'd say the game is early on but gets more difficult progressively starting from the Pyrimid.

Lots of "game is too easy" takes on gamefaqs on release weekend then those takes all stopped coming in after they played past a certain point and now they complained about difficulty lol

[Shalazah]

Originally posted by Lost Froggy:

Some tips;

Kakclang can be used to ditch bad status on your party. They'll wear off while you are in that state. Has saved my rear on several occasions.

If you are finding and obtaining the friendly monsters as early as possible as you go through the game, monster pile on winds up being top tier damage for a large potion of the game - it is able to scale up earlier than things that could eventually out damage it, which I've seen lead players to think its brokenly powerful. Other abilities need you to build up a stat for their damage to get high. There are 121 monsters in total, and that's all pile on scales with.

Early to mid game abilities from wrangler abilities can almost carry you. They don't have to be used from a wrangler though, it can be a former wrangler. Late game some folks consider wild side + monster pile on critical, but I found it was often effective to wild side + Sword Dance or just Cutting Edge because I had the stats for it. Or land a debuff then Persecutter its face clean off.

Late game, strats like wild side + kaboom while wearing a duplic hat to get 4 kabooms from one caster in one turn can really make your damage output crazy if your wisdom is high enough to make it worth it. If the enemy isn't wiping your buffs, add channel anger to get even more out of it.

Plan ahead for boss fights and sometimes just the area you are in too. Those earrings that resist a damage type really matter. Having 1 for fire damage and 1 for wind damage really helped out at Gaias Navel.

When you know how to game the class and personality systems to maximize stats gains, it greatly reduces the difficulty of the game. You can make it too easy or too hard by accident if you either overdo this or ignore how these interact. I started off handicapping myself without realizing it.

My mid game problem was my luck stat was far behind and I didn't realize the impact that would have. I was getting nailed by every bad status and debuff every time. and thwack was making me hemorrhage dieamends to avoid insta death wipes. I reclassed, used gadabout for some characters and hens tooth for others to get the luck bonus to crank luck up the 1st 20-25 levels, then was able to move forward on further levels and further class changes without focusing on luck anymore - just avoided getting any personality with luck penalties. That fixed my issues.

Now that I've cleared the main game and post game, I've been making one of the characters re-classed a ton to see just how far I can push things and its already nuts. He's right now level 50 on sage and has multiple stats well above 500. Agility is 689. HP is 884. MP 651. No seeds used on him, those all went to the hero. With meteorite bracer that puts the display at 999 agility and he always goes first so critical claim goes off before liquid metal slimes can run. Sometimes those show up alongside the king hydras I am leveling off so that's a nice bonus.

Side note : 3x king hydras will never not be annoying as F on draconian, because they will spam sleeps and fears until one lands, then spam some more. Nobody does these on draconian, nobody. Everyone is doing them on dracky so they can almost afk their exp.

I've kept to Draconian for the sake of seeing how that'll go. The key to the triple King Hydras is to spam Hypnowhip. If 2/3 stay confused, risk Persecutter. I got to the point where I was bringing 2 party members for extra EXP to the triple King fights.

[atmasabr]

Originally posted by hopefuldeath:

Originally posted by atmasabr:

Ultimate Key equipment is pushing it for Orochi.

The very first thing the game pushes you to do and tells you how to do it after getting your ship is getting the Ultimate Key. I don't see how that's pushing it. If you're doing Orochi before having the Ultimate Key you're technically going out of order of what the in-game hints tell you to do

Eh? The game points you to Jipang before getting the ship. Getting the Ultimate Key is one, two, three, four towns. And Manoza is the fourth or fifth most dangerous overworld before Baramos.

[Lost Froggy]

Originally posted by Shalazah:

I've kept to Draconian for the sake of seeing how that'll go. The key to the triple King Hydras is to spam Hypnowhip. If 2/3 stay confused, risk Persecutter. I got to the point where I was bringing 2 party members for extra EXP to the triple King fights.

thanks, I'll give that a try. Somehow never occurred to me to check if they were susceptible to confusion. Until recently they usually got their turns before me, and they tend to go 3x each per round. My leveling through thief and martial artist classes on multiple characters ha snow turned that on its head. I have one guy who's even capped out agility now, so if I can take away their turn before they take away mine that's going to be really satisfying!

[GespenstKAF]

Originally posted by atmasabr:

Originally posted by hopefuldeath:

The very first thing the game pushes you to do and tells you how to do it after getting your ship is getting the Ultimate Key. I don't see how that's pushing it. If you're doing Orochi before having the Ultimate Key you're technically going out of order of what the in-game hints tell you to do

Eh? The game points you to Jipang before getting the ship. Getting the Ultimate Key is one, two, three, four towns. And Manoza is the fourth or fifth most dangerous overworld before Baramos.

What's funny is that I accidentally went and beat Manoza before Jipang

[hopefuldeath]

Originally posted by atmasabr:

Eh? The game points you to Jipang before getting the ship. Getting the Ultimate Key is one, two, three, four towns. And Manoza is the fourth or fifth most dangerous overworld before Baramos.

As soon you get the ship, there's a lighthouse literally 3 steps away. The remake also tells you to visit that lighthouse first. It's much closer than Jipang and they tell you to go there first, so you do.

In the lighthouse they tell you to sail south to Theddon, which is also like the closest location from that position.

In Theddon there's an old man who says "The first thing you should do is find the Ultimate Key that opens jail doors". They literally say まずは IE it's the first thing you should do. https://i.imgur.com/iQIVgQy.png

Granted, I checked the English version(I usually play in Japanese) and apparently they changed the phrasing which I was not aware of. In that translation he just talks about how you need the key to open the specific jail door in that specific town which is not what the original is trying to say. The game as it was written in the original language does tell you to get the Ultimate key first thing at least. Apparently the NES version's translation also mostly retains the original's intent, for what it's worth.

This guy is also apparently infamous for giving bad directions in the new English translation, heh.

[Some Rando]

I don't mind easy, but yeah I played on Dragon and over leveled to get all skills and all characters with Wild Side and such... My MC finished at lvl 91 iirc.

[atmasabr]

The NES version has the lighthouse guy telling you about Jipang. In this version it's only the guy at the inn across from it who talks about it. I think.

[Chase Omega]

This version IS significantly easier than previous versions of DQ3.

[Holyblades]

I think I just got crazy lucky with Orochi because I beat him first try and I have been completely struggling in the second half of this game before I class swapped. I am just getting to the final dungeon and so far after going mage -> monster wrangler, priest -> martial artist, thief -> clown class (this will be my sage after he gets his final ability but so far he seems to be doing fine)