Why is this not on sale during the current Steam sale?

[Tangsta]

So you're willing to give FF7 Rebirth, a game that hasn't even released on Steam yet, a 30% discount, but this overpriced game stays at RRP? Go figure.

[Melodia]

If it's 'nonsense' why do you care?

[Tangsta]

Sorry I mispoke, the price is nonsense, not the game, which I do want to play. It's just bizarre pricing strategies here. Going by the number of steam reviews, this game has not sold that well on Steam, why isn't there a discount?

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Tangsta:

Going by the number of steam reviews, this game has not sold that well on Steam

Whatever metric you're using is wrong. Game has sold somewhere around 300k which for a remake of a game from the 80s at full price is about as good as anyone could ever hope for,

Originally posted by Tangsta:

why isn't there a discount?

Because the game is barely a month old?

[Tangsta]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Because the game is barely a month old?

Then why is there a 30% discount atm for FF7 Rebirth, a game that isn't even out on Steam yet? I guess you didn't read my OP.

[hopefuldeath]

I'm not sure if you're aware of this but FF7 Rebirth was released close to a year ago. Don't know why you're adding "on Steam" as if that matters

[The_Box]

Originally posted by Tangsta:

Originally posted by Melodia:

Because the game is barely a month old?

Then why is there a 30% discount atm for FF7 Rebirth, a game that isn't even out on Steam yet? I guess you didn't read my OP.

Games routinely get pre-order discounts and/or bonuses, especially when it's a port of a game that's already released on console, as a way to hopefully encourage people who already have it on one platform to re-buy it on the new one.

[Zogtar]

Originally posted by The_Box:

Originally posted by Tangsta:

Then why is there a 30% discount atm for FF7 Rebirth, a game that isn't even out on Steam yet? I guess you didn't read my OP.

Games routinely get pre-order discounts and/or bonuses, especially when it's a port of a game that's already released on console, as a way to hopefully encourage people who already have it on one platform to re-buy it on the new one.

Think that's because they really want people to buy Rebirth, and think a sale will incentivise it? No clue.

Rebirth didn't sell that well on the PS5 from the reports. As you have said, it's also over a year old.

DQ3-make was released x-platform, and it's only been out for a little over a month. Plus it's doing pretty "good" for a single-player game. At the moment, it has around the same amount of daily peak players as the Dragon Ball Sparking Zero game.

https://steamdb.info/app/2701660/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/1790600/charts/

[Tangsta]

Originally posted by The_Box:

Originally posted by Tangsta:

Then why is there a 30% discount atm for FF7 Rebirth, a game that isn't even out on Steam yet? I guess you didn't read my OP.

Games routinely get pre-order discounts and/or bonuses, especially when it's a port of a game that's already released on console, as a way to hopefully encourage people who already have it on one platform to re-buy it on the new one.

You mean, like Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake?

I think the answer simply is because whoever is in charge of pricing Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is grossly incompetent.

Originally posted by Melodia:

Whatever metric you're using is wrong. Game has sold somewhere around 300k which for a remake of a game from the 80s at full price is about as good as anyone could ever hope for

Ridiculous argument, lowering the price will increase sales. If the game hasn't sold that well then that should be incentive to lower the price, especially during a major Steam sale.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Tangsta:

Ridiculous argument, lowering the price will increase sales. If the game hasn't sold that well then that should be incentive to lower the price, especially during a major Steam sale.

300k in five weeks for an old school JRPG isn't 'sold that well'? What the hell are you smoking?

[The_Box]

Originally posted by Tangsta:

You mean, like Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake?

I think the answer simply is because whoever is in charge of pricing Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is grossly incompetent.

The remake isn't a port of a game already released on another system. It was a simultaneous cross-platform release, and happened only around a month ago. And no, a remake and a port are not the same thing, they are fundamentally different. Even the 2019 Switch release was just a port of a prior version, rather than anything approaching an actual remake.

Originally posted by Tangsta:

Ridiculous argument, lowering the price will increase sales. If the game hasn't sold that well then that should be incentive to lower the price, especially during a major Steam sale.

Yes, lowering price will increase sales. However, this game has sold amazingly well for its genre. Better than a vast, VAST majority of JRPG's on Steam. Put simply, there is little incentive for Square to offer it at a sale price currently, as it's continuing to sell quite well even now. Once the hype and purchase rates ebb a little, we'll likely see some sales. But when it's still going great, the only thing offering it at a discount does is leave money on the table. If you don't like it, just blame capitalism.

[The_Box]

Originally posted by Judge Caveman:

Originally posted by The_Box:

Games routinely get pre-order discounts and/or bonuses, especially when it's a port of a game that's already released on console, as a way to hopefully encourage people who already have it on one platform to re-buy it on the new one.

Think that's because they really want people to buy Rebirth, and think a sale will incentivise it? No clue.

Rebirth didn't sell that well on the PS5 from the reports. As you have said, it's also over a year old.

DQ3-make was released x-platform, and it's only been out for a little over a month. Plus it's doing pretty "good" for a single-player game. At the moment, it has around the same amount of daily peak players as the Dragon Ball Sparking Zero game.

https://steamdb.info/app/2701660/charts/
https://steamdb.info/app/1790600/charts/

Yeah, that's basically what I was getting at. I should have been clearer in saying that my comment was purely about Rebirth, and specifically pointing out why a discount there makes sense in ways it simply does not make sense for DQ3R.

[Tangsta]

Originally posted by The_Box:

However, this game has sold amazingly well for its genre.

Which means the market that was willing to pay the RRP for this game is tapped out, they need to lower the price to capture the people waiting for discounts. This was the opportune time to do it. Therefore, I reiterate my point about their incompetence in pricing this right.

[The_Box]

Originally posted by Tangsta:

Originally posted by The_Box:

However, this game has sold amazingly well for its genre.

Which means the market that was willing to pay the RRP for this game is tapped out, they need to lower the price to capture the people waiting for discounts. This was the opportune time to do it. Therefore, I reiterate my point about their incompetence in pricing this right.

Except it's still selling. And selling well. So again, offering a discount on something currently selling well is leaving money on the table and unwise.

[Tangsta]

Originally posted by The_Box:

Originally posted by Tangsta:

Which means the market that was willing to pay the RRP for this game is tapped out, they need to lower the price to capture the people waiting for discounts. This was the opportune time to do it. Therefore, I reiterate my point about their incompetence in pricing this right.

Except it's still selling. And selling well. So again, offering a discount on something currently selling well is leaving money on the table and unwise.

How do you know it's selling well right this very moment?

[The_Box]

Because we can see where games rank on Steam's own best sellers list, and there's still ongoing reports of physical copies being out of stock at multiple outlets.