$60 four months in advance?

[Greed Is Addiction]

For a mass cloned steam key? Save your money, folks. It will still be $60 on Nov. 14th and they won't run out of auto-generated keys.

[Melodia]

Not sure what the point of this topic is.

[Bikanel desert]

agree

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Not sure what the point of this topic is.

Selling something which doesn't currently exist, and when it does it will not run out of stock. There's no good reason to pre-order or be $60 lighter in the wallet this early.

[Koby]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Originally posted by Melodia:

Not sure what the point of this topic is.

Selling something which doesn't currently exist, and when it does it will not run out of stock. There's no good reason to pre-order or be $60 lighter in the wallet this early.

Why do you care, it's not your money.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Koby:

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Selling something which doesn't currently exist, and when it does it will not run out of stock. There's no good reason to pre-order or be $60 lighter in the wallet this early.

Why do you care, it's not your money.

Why do you care if I try to help people avoid being robbed early? Robbed being that there's currently no product to use or enjoy, and it will be the exact same price in November.

Early adopters pay the highest price for the most buggy and problematic version of a game. Can't associate something like that with being smart.

[Koby]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Originally posted by Koby:

Why do you care, it's not your money.

Why do you care if I try to help people avoid being robbed early? Robbed being that there's currently no product to use or enjoy, and it will be the exact same price in November.

Early adopters pay the highest price for the most buggy and problematic version of a game. Can't associate something like that with being smart.

Being robbed is someone taking your money and never giving anything. This is you freely opting to hand over payment for something you're getting down the road. It's fully optional and in almost all cases it's the cheaper route to go due to all the pre-order sales and stuff. Like for example, I can pre-order this right now for like $46, but if I wait to buy it on release day it'd cost $60. So obviously it's smart to save money. What isn't smart is crying on Steam about what other people do with their money. You're never going to convince anyone here that you know better than they do in terms of how to spend their own money.

[Stoibs]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

For a mass cloned steam key? Save your money, folks. It will still be $60 on Nov. 14th and they won't run out of auto-generated keys.

But it's cheaper than that now from some retailers, ironically it will actually be more expensive to wait post-launch for a time (Until maybe another 3-6 months into 2025 when sales start up)

Also it's tax time for some of us. People are cashed up or about to be cashed up from returns.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Koby:

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Why do you care if I try to help people avoid being robbed early? Robbed being that there's currently no product to use or enjoy, and it will be the exact same price in November.

Early adopters pay the highest price for the most buggy and problematic version of a game. Can't associate something like that with being smart.

Being robbed is someone taking your money and never giving anything. This is you freely opting to hand over payment for something you're getting down the road. It's fully optional and in almost all cases it's the cheaper route to go due to all the pre-order sales and stuff. Like for example, I can pre-order this right now for like $46, but if I wait to buy it on release day it'd cost $60. So obviously it's smart to save money.

Interesting. Smart is waiting 2 years to get the game on sale for $34.99 all patched up with DLC included.

[Koby]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Originally posted by Koby:

Being robbed is someone taking your money and never giving anything. This is you freely opting to hand over payment for something you're getting down the road. It's fully optional and in almost all cases it's the cheaper route to go due to all the pre-order sales and stuff. Like for example, I can pre-order this right now for like $46, but if I wait to buy it on release day it'd cost $60. So obviously it's smart to save money.

Interesting. Smart is waiting 2 years to get the game on sale for $34.99 all patched up with DLC included.

No one is guaranteed to be alive in 2 years. I'll be playing this in November. Waiting 2 years to save just $11 is foolish to me.

[Belmont]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Originally posted by Koby:

Why do you care, it's not your money.

Why do you care if I try to help people avoid being robbed early? Robbed being that there's currently no product to use or enjoy, and it will be the exact same price in November.

Early adopters pay the highest price for the most buggy and problematic version of a game. Can't associate something like that with being smart.

You have a funny definition of what robbed means.

Regardless if one buys it on release day, or preorders it, they are still receiving the product in exchange for their money.

Should the game for whatever reason *not* release, Steam still refunds preorders, no questions asked.

You're also neglecting to think about other circumstances. Some people may be in a better position to preorder *now* when disposable income is easier for them, rather than buying it during holiday season when money may be tighter. Or that some countries with their inflation rates being so fast changing, preordering now may actually be cheaper than launch day.

You're not the moral authority on how people can spend their disposable capital, nor are you the the one who sits above anyone else to judge them for doing so.

Take your mental gymnastics somewhere else.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Originally posted by Belmont:

Regardless if one buys it on release day, or preorders it, they are still receiving the product in exchange for their money.

Should the game for whatever reason *not* release, Steam still refunds preorders, no questions asked.

You're also neglecting to think about other circumstances.

Like the circumstance of waiting 2 years until the game is not only all patched up and bug-free, but $20 less with DLC? We know one variable for sure - the game will not keep increasing in price, but rather drop in price over time. Meaning that it becomes an even better deal the longer one chooses to wait. It could even be argued that exercising patience and not preordering/buying creates some disposable income for down the road where you can get the game on a good sale and have leftover for something else.

But don't let me stop you. Spend, spend NOW. If they put Denuvo in this game at the last minute (to avoid lots of gamer anger and conflict) I'm perfectly good if you want to pay for that as well, or keeping the greed addiction program laced with malware.

Unless something is valuable, rare, and limited in number it's just wiser to wait and watch prices fall or for the next iteration (Version 2.0). Rewarding impatience and impulsive thoughts leads to a world full of fools.

[LordKaiserX0]

If this was in the same engine as Dragon Quest XI then maybe I'll consider this price. Unless I will get the other 2 games for free later on and it's actually the 3 games for this price.

[Koby]

Originally posted by LordKaiserX0:

If this was in the same engine as Dragon Quest XI then maybe I'll consider this price. Unless I will get the other 2 games for free later on and it's actually the 3 games for this price.

The other two will be bundled together, likely for $60, maybe $70.

[ShockedHearts]

just pre-ordered it because 4 months from now the game will pop up as available to play and my wallet will have completely forgotten about this transaction.

[Belmont]

Originally posted by Greed Is Addiction:

Originally posted by Belmont:

Regardless if one buys it on release day, or preorders it, they are still receiving the product in exchange for their money.

Should the game for whatever reason *not* release, Steam still refunds preorders, no questions asked.

You're also neglecting to think about other circumstances.

Like the circumstance of waiting 2 years until the game is not only all patched up and bug-free, but $20 less with DLC? We know one variable for sure - the game will not keep increasing in price, but rather drop in price over time. Meaning that it becomes an even better deal the longer one chooses to wait. It could even be argued that exercising patience and not preordering/buying creates some disposable income for down the road where you can get the game on a good sale and have leftover for something else.

But don't let me stop you. Spend, spend NOW. If they put Denuvo in this game at the last minute (to avoid lots of gamer anger and conflict) I'm perfectly good if you want to pay for that as well, or keeping the greed addiction program laced with malware.

Unless something is valuable, rare, and limited in number it's just wiser to wait and watch prices fall or for the next iteration (Version 2.0). Rewarding impatience and impulsive thoughts leads to a world full of fools.

No one ever said that it wasn't a better deal to wait. Obviously a sale is better than paying full price in terms of value. Congratulations for not reading what I posted, you're so entrenched in your hate campaign against preorders that you aren't even bothering to listen to what others are saying. Typical steam forum response.

Your statement I quoted was buying now versus buying in November. There is 0 difference to either, other than the payout to the developer. Some people have the money now and would rather add it to their library so they don't have to worry about it then, some people's countries have such rampant inflation that $60 NOW will be cheaper than $60 THEN, and some people are such fans of the series that they are going to buy it to play it on day one regardless. You don't know people's circumstances. Stop getting nettled by people preordering, it's a useless exercise.

If you truly want to argue against giving money to the developer before a release, the better PSA to let people know is how Steam pays out to developers, which is on the last day of the month. So therefore, if one is truly worried about a developer delivering a substandard or broken product, any purchase made on November 1st or forward to and past release day, ensures your money only goes to Steam and not the developer, for that period of time. This would leave one free to request their refund before the end of that month, after testing the launch day of the game, and making an informed decision if it was worth it to yourself or not, without Square ever seeing a single penny of your purchase.

Again though, you aren't the moral arbiter to judge anyone on they spend their own money.