X-Plane sucks ngl(rant)

[Jearvin]

So I had this game for a while and to be honest, I dont like it, it can be just me but I wanna say a few things I dont like about this game or sim.

1)No Tutorial
Sure, you got your basic, take off and landings and what not, how to start the engine, turn it off and use breaks, but what really gets to me is that, its the aircraft that I never use. I tend to fly the 737/747 and other jet aircraft, and there is nothing, I mean nothing, there is nothing to teach you how to use the aircraft, like oh how do I turn on the engines, what do certain buttons do, what is this, what is that you know, there is nothing, I had to spend time looking on forums and yotube trying to figure out what to do and how to 'play' the game, this was a huge waste of time for me at least

2)The aircraft
It could be just me, but the aircraft are useless, there is always a problem whenever i'm trying to fly, like oh I turned on the lights in the cabin, its still dark, I set the heading to lets say 200, it goes to 170 straight, I tell the aircraft 20,000 nope 15000 take it or leave it and I change the verticle speed, how fast my aircraft is going and so on, nothing., for me I had to go on forums again, ask questions such as "why is my plane turning left and right" and "why does my aircraft keep on going up and down" and what not, at the end of the day its unbearable for my to play this sim

3)The controls
Its non-existant, like I want to play with my house, I turn the slightest bit, boom im now doing a barrel roll in a 737 and now im a dive bomber going straight into the ground, like this game is a joke, so again, I go ask questions, "how do I change my sensitivity" and its either "oh download this mod" or "play with a joystick" or "go into the config files" like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, let me play the game.

4)The visuals
Not going to lie, every time I play this flight sim, I think i'm playing a roblox/minecraft flight sim, the graphics in this game blow, like I set everything to high, and it still looks like something you would see in a Playstation 1 game, for example, I fly in California, and its a complete joke, the golden gate bridge is litterally in the water, market street has like maybe 8 buildings, the piers and ports look so out of shape, the bay bridge looks like a minecraft block. In Los Angeles, the same thing, the Los Angeles skyline looks like a bunch of vertical blocks, and all I see below me is a bunch of google maps textures, like im trying not to laugh when I play this flight sim

In conclusion, this game was a total waste of time and money, even the old FSX is better than this game, you actually had buildings that are in real life, the weather was pretty good, and it even had multiplayer, I payed $30 or so and I got cheated out of my money, there was nothing to help teach you play, the graphics and visuals are unplayable and finally the game is so limiting.

At the end of the day, I just bought the new Microsoft flight sim, this flight sim sucks. If anyone were to ask me, if this was a great flight sim, no way, put your money into another flight sim not this.

[John W]

Well thanks for the input but I really think it's just you. This simulator is just fine but does need some addons to make it better. And you can say it shouldn't need any but FSX needed addons, P3D needed addons, all sims need addons basically.

Yes there is a basic tutorial but this is a simulator not a game. The amount of documentation that would need to be added to learn to fly is too much for a simulator. But like the rest of us, you have the web available to search for tutorials and videos on how to fly certain aircraft. People are always willing to answer any questions you have and assist in you learning to fly.

If you couldn't fly this simulator I do not think you will have any better luck with the new Microsoft flight simulator. But have at it.

[Ryan]

You are right, its just you who feels like this. First off, Its a "game"? I think simulator would be a better word.

#1 Because this is a simulator, dont be expected to be hand held through anything, you can find HOURS and HOURS of youtube content on how to fly a plane. If it was a waste of time you shouldent be in the flight sim community then. Also, why should you need a tutorial, sense you are just the flight sim boss here.

#2, The planes quality depends on where and who you get them from. My version of the zibo works like a dream. I dont know what you are complaining about when it is maybe pilot error or you downloaded planes from some russian guy

#3, Buy a joystick, Mouse yoke is sheet. (How do you have 500hrs on FSX but no joystick) They're F***King 30 bucks

#4, The visual, comparing to p3d or fsx it is by far the best sim for visual, however out of the box it isnt very well compared to FS2020. If you only have 8 buildings that might be because your settings are EXTREMLY low because what ever potato deep fried in ketchup pc you have cant handle it. I can agree that it doesnt come very well out of the box, With xplane you get a base game, you make it whatever you want. If you are not willing to spend time then just stop then.

#5, Side thing. There are THOUSANDS of addons you can use to enhance you sim, you are just so impatient you cant just spend time to improve, If thats who you are then playing another game would be better. Also the visuals https://prnt.sc/1078xaz. FS2020 is more of a game then a simulator, its marketed to people like you, I hate to say this but simple people who dont really know what flight sim is. Xplane 11 is marketed to people who want to get serious with flight sim, people who have a passion.

Look man, you have 24 hours in xplane. It took 500 hours of xplane and testing for me to get in too it. It takes time, if you stick with it, you will like it. All it is time and money with flight sim.

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by Jearvin:

At the end of the day, I just bought the new Microsoft flight sim, this flight sim sucks. If anyone were to ask me, if this was a great flight sim, no way, put your money into another flight sim not this.

I have P3D, XP and MSFS and have been flight simming for over two decades. I started messing around in XP with 9. All of them have their pros and cons. I've dumped money into all of these sims and to this day I do enjoy all of them but there are some things in MSFS I simply can't stand right now.

[Antaiir]

Expectation (simple arcade game) meets reality (full grown simulation).

Contrary to a point-and-click game, you need to tinker with a simulator a bit. The web is full of tutorials, guides and manuals, how to use X-Plane from beginner level to an expert. All you need to do: use a search engine of your choice.

By the way... startup menu of X-Plane, 4th button from top. What's that? A flying school? I would call that kind of a "tutorial". So much to "no tutorial". You don't need a guide, you need new glasses, mate. ;-)

Do you really wanna fly an airliner with your mouse? Then were done here, no need to waste more time to cover all other aspects of your complaint then. Proper simulation is just not your thing. ;-)

[m_kapperman]

Ya'll told him.

[Burning Bridges]

Out of the box X-plane is really bad and I almost refunded it. The graphics look awful and the physics / ATC are a joke. But fortunately I had downloaded Spain UHD and some 3rd party planes and that made me think again.

But the graphics get really good if you invest ca 1-2 months into downloading mods, testing mods, generating Orthos. You must run Ortho4XP at night and test them during the day for sa few weeks and the results will slowly swing your opinion around.

I spent about 250 hours and 4 Terabyte from them on it was fantastic, I have now graohics for most of Western Europe and can actually enjoy the game.

Here is one of my screenshots, most of Europe and North Africa looks like that

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2406869842

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2376861098

Or if this is too much for you, just download extended night lights and fly exclusively at night.

[CommandDork]

Ya, I gave XP11 a few years of interest and ultimately moved on because of all the 3rd party stuff needed to just make it look halfway decent. $60 experiment for me.

There are other products that scratch the same itch these days - and they're leagues ahead out-of-the-box.

[gpansontou]

Originally posted by Jearvin:

So I had this game for a while and to be honest, I dont like it, it can be just me but I wanna say a few things I dont like about this game or sim.

1)No Tutorial
Sure, you got your basic, take off and landings and what not, how to start the engine, turn it off and use breaks, but what really gets to me is that, its the aircraft that I never use. I tend to fly the 737/747 and other jet aircraft, and there is nothing, I mean nothing, there is nothing to teach you how to use the aircraft, like oh how do I turn on the engines, what do certain buttons do, what is this, what is that you know, there is nothing, I had to spend time looking on forums and yotube trying to figure out what to do and how to 'play' the game, this was a huge waste of time for me at least

2)The aircraft
It could be just me, but the aircraft are useless, there is always a problem whenever i'm trying to fly, like oh I turned on the lights in the cabin, its still dark, I set the heading to lets say 200, it goes to 170 straight, I tell the aircraft 20,000 nope 15000 take it or leave it and I change the verticle speed, how fast my aircraft is going and so on, nothing., for me I had to go on forums again, ask questions such as "why is my plane turning left and right" and "why does my aircraft keep on going up and down" and what not, at the end of the day its unbearable for my to play this sim

3)The controls
Its non-existant, like I want to play with my house, I turn the slightest bit, boom im now doing a barrel roll in a 737 and now im a dive bomber going straight into the ground, like this game is a joke, so again, I go ask questions, "how do I change my sensitivity" and its either "oh download this mod" or "play with a joystick" or "go into the config files" like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, let me play the game.

4)The visuals
Not going to lie, every time I play this flight sim, I think i'm playing a roblox/minecraft flight sim, the graphics in this game blow, like I set everything to high, and it still looks like something you would see in a Playstation 1 game, for example, I fly in California, and its a complete joke, the golden gate bridge is litterally in the water, market street has like maybe 8 buildings, the piers and ports look so out of shape, the bay bridge looks like a minecraft block. In Los Angeles, the same thing, the Los Angeles skyline looks like a bunch of vertical blocks, and all I see below me is a bunch of google maps textures, like im trying not to laugh when I play this flight sim

In conclusion, this game was a total waste of time and money, even the old FSX is better than this game, you actually had buildings that are in real life, the weather was pretty good, and it even had multiplayer, I payed $30 or so and I got cheated out of my money, there was nothing to help teach you play, the graphics and visuals are unplayable and finally the game is so limiting.

At the end of the day, I just bought the new Microsoft flight sim, this flight sim sucks. If anyone were to ask me, if this was a great flight sim, no way, put your money into another flight sim not this.

Thanks for your comment, just few tips if you still using this sim(maybe is a bit rude)
1) If you have trouble in flight control or don't know what to do, watch youtube, there are tons of tutorial you might want to watch. You basically can learn everything from youtube.
2)Don't use the aircraft that comes with the game try get some other aircraft from the forum like zibo 737-8 or buy an paid aircraft, they are just perfect.
3)Get a joystick, no one would play this game without a joystick...I think
4)If you compare with msfs. Yes, the graphics may not be the best, but you can go to the forum to download some scenery and airport, I use ortho and hd global scenery to enhance the graphics, most of them is free. But just note, x plane is not a game, I use x plane is not because I want to see how stunning the scenery are, if you want to play flight sim and look stunning view or landmark, msfs is your best choice.

[tonimark]

Originally posted by Jearvin:

So I had this game for a while and to be honest, I dont like it, it can be just me but I wanna say a few things I dont like about this game or sim.

1)No Tutorial
Sure, you got your basic, take off and landings and what not, how to start the engine, turn it off and use breaks, but what really gets to me is that, its the aircraft that I never use. I tend to fly the 737/747 and other jet aircraft, and there is nothing, I mean nothing, there is nothing to teach you how to use the aircraft, like oh how do I turn on the engines, what do certain buttons do, what is this, what is that you know, there is nothing, I had to spend time looking on forums and yotube trying to figure out what to do and how to 'play' the game, this was a huge waste of time for me at least

2)The aircraft
It could be just me, but the aircraft are useless, there is always a problem whenever i'm trying to fly, like oh I turned on the lights in the cabin, its still dark, I set the heading to lets say 200, it goes to 170 straight, I tell the aircraft 20,000 nope 15000 take it or leave it and I change the verticle speed, how fast my aircraft is going and so on, nothing., for me I had to go on forums again, ask questions such as "why is my plane turning left and right" and "why does my aircraft keep on going up and down" and what not, at the end of the day its unbearable for my to play this sim

3)The controls
Its non-existant, like I want to play with my house, I turn the slightest bit, boom im now doing a barrel roll in a 737 and now im a dive bomber going straight into the ground, like this game is a joke, so again, I go ask questions, "how do I change my sensitivity" and its either "oh download this mod" or "play with a joystick" or "go into the config files" like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, let me play the game.

4)The visuals
Not going to lie, every time I play this flight sim, I think i'm playing a roblox/minecraft flight sim, the graphics in this game blow, like I set everything to high, and it still looks like something you would see in a Playstation 1 game, for example, I fly in California, and its a complete joke, the golden gate bridge is litterally in the water, market street has like maybe 8 buildings, the piers and ports look so out of shape, the bay bridge looks like a minecraft block. In Los Angeles, the same thing, the Los Angeles skyline looks like a bunch of vertical blocks, and all I see below me is a bunch of google maps textures, like im trying not to laugh when I play this flight sim

In conclusion, this game was a total waste of time and money, even the old FSX is better than this game, you actually had buildings that are in real life, the weather was pretty good, and it even had multiplayer, I payed $30 or so and I got cheated out of my money, there was nothing to help teach you play, the graphics and visuals are unplayable and finally the game is so limiting.

At the end of the day, I just bought the new Microsoft flight sim, this flight sim sucks. If anyone were to ask me, if this was a great flight sim, no way, put your money into another flight sim not this.

sims generally suck , you need addons AND YES THAT ALSO APPLY TO NEW flight simulator 2020 by microsoft , it is complete ♥♥♥♥ without any good addon but they say its good since it hasn't got any addons yet

[Bullett]

X-Plane is amazing if you have a quality yoke, throttle and rudder pedals. It has the best flight models and instrument implementation and just feels better than any other sim. In time, I think msfs 2020 might be better, but not yet.

[Jimmy]

Not to be rude, but nothing in your entire complaint really makes any sense.

1) If you can already fly a 737, I don't see why you'd need a tutorial to learn how to fly the 737 again. There's also EXTENSIVE tutorials on every aircraft on Youtube.
If you want a good 737 to fly, check out the Zibo mod 737, along with the several hour long tutorial series to go with it.

2) I've never experienced any of the problems you're describing with autopilot, but in saying that, I've flown a default aircraft maybe 1 time. TBH it sounds like you just don't really know what you're doing, and don't want to invest any time to learn. This sim takes a lot more than a default tutorial to teach you anything.

3) Again, it's not a game, it's a sim. You need to invest time into setting it up, which includes setting up your controls. If you don't like the responsiveness of the defaults, you have every option to change those sensitivities if you want to, but you don't want to.

4) I can sort of agree here, but visuals are the trade off you make for having a somewhat realistic flight model and a stable FPS. Theres also several things you can do to improve the visuals, but again, you aren't interested.

If you're only interested in visuals and arcade "game" like flying, I'd recommend MSFS2020.

[Flying Acehole]

It´s a Simulation and no CallofDutyBattlefieldCSgoPUBGFortnite Kiddies Xbox Game. This Simulation is used by real Pilots and you ( you...) are saying X-plane 11 is bad? --->

[Maxablet]

Originally posted by Jearvin:

So I had this game for a while and to be honest, I dont like it, it can be just me but I wanna say a few things I dont like about this game or sim.

1)No Tutorial
Sure, you got your basic, take off and landings and what not, how to start the engine, turn it off and use breaks, but what really gets to me is that, its the aircraft that I never use. I tend to fly the 737/747 and other jet aircraft, and there is nothing, I mean nothing, there is nothing to teach you how to use the aircraft, like oh how do I turn on the engines, what do certain buttons do, what is this, what is that you know, there is nothing, I had to spend time looking on forums and yotube trying to figure out what to do and how to 'play' the game, this was a huge waste of time for me at least

2)The aircraft
It could be just me, but the aircraft are useless, there is always a problem whenever i'm trying to fly, like oh I turned on the lights in the cabin, its still dark, I set the heading to lets say 200, it goes to 170 straight, I tell the aircraft 20,000 nope 15000 take it or leave it and I change the verticle speed, how fast my aircraft is going and so on, nothing., for me I had to go on forums again, ask questions such as "why is my plane turning left and right" and "why does my aircraft keep on going up and down" and what not, at the end of the day its unbearable for my to play this sim

3)The controls
Its non-existant, like I want to play with my house, I turn the slightest bit, boom im now doing a barrel roll in a 737 and now im a dive bomber going straight into the ground, like this game is a joke, so again, I go ask questions, "how do I change my sensitivity" and its either "oh download this mod" or "play with a joystick" or "go into the config files" like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, let me play the game.

4)The visuals
Not going to lie, every time I play this flight sim, I think i'm playing a roblox/minecraft flight sim, the graphics in this game blow, like I set everything to high, and it still looks like something you would see in a Playstation 1 game, for example, I fly in California, and its a complete joke, the golden gate bridge is litterally in the water, market street has like maybe 8 buildings, the piers and ports look so out of shape, the bay bridge looks like a minecraft block. In Los Angeles, the same thing, the Los Angeles skyline looks like a bunch of vertical blocks, and all I see below me is a bunch of google maps textures, like im trying not to laugh when I play this flight sim

In conclusion, this game was a total waste of time and money, even the old FSX is better than this game, you actually had buildings that are in real life, the weather was pretty good, and it even had multiplayer, I payed $30 or so and I got cheated out of my money, there was nothing to help teach you play, the graphics and visuals are unplayable and finally the game is so limiting.

At the end of the day, I just bought the new Microsoft flight sim, this flight sim sucks. If anyone were to ask me, if this was a great flight sim, no way, put your money into another flight sim not this.

Ok I am gonna be real with you. You are probably not the target audience for this flight sim. If you bought MSFS2020 and you're happy with it, that's great, but at the moment, without starting the discussion which one is better (although in my opinion, at least now, it's still X-Plane), I have to say that maybe this sim isn't quite meant for people like you. This sim is used by real pilots and i have seen it being used in flight schools (just like P3D). So just to clarify a couple of things that others have already mentioned above. This is a sim, don't expect to be guided through and rather do some research yourself. Furthermore the default aircraft aren't what you should base your judgement on. The base aircraft in every flight sim are total ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. It's the same way in MSFS btw. Have you tried flying their default A320? You probably need to upgrade them with payware or even freeware (like the freeware Zibo 737, which is amazing). And for MSFS there just isn't anything really out there yet, that is study level enogh to statisfy the X Plane user that seeks realism. The controls in this sim, if you have a proper HOTAS or something else, are quite amazing actually. At least in my case I've had a worse experiences with other flight sims. Additionally the graphics were quite good for it's time, and sure without additional scenery VFR flying isn't really possible, but the graphics are still quite good for a flight sim and were top notch when it was released. So to conclude I would say maybe you are gonna come back to this sim, when you have gotten into flight simming a bit more.

[Partan]

lol

[Ryan]

I 100% agree with you, but i would like this thread to just die. Please nobody respond...