X-Plane 11

X-Plane 11

BigKangaroo3 2020 年 4 月 3 日 下午 11:08
Please read the VULKAN release notes from the DEVs - it will save you time wondering which plugins arn't working and the known bugs which are present
最後修改者:BigKangaroo3; 2020 年 4 月 4 日 上午 12:27
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Gee Wiz 2020 年 4 月 3 日 下午 11:48 
thanks for this ,now i know why it wont run .Kind regards
BigKangaroo3 2020 年 4 月 4 日 上午 12:40 
You are welcome Piper. I have to say, I'm a little surprised at the Laminar Team for not being more on top of providing Customer Service.
For instance, the Better Pushback plugin has recently released an update that is Vulkan compatible.
https://github.com/skiselkov/BetterPushbackC/releases

If it was up to me, I would be conversing and monitoring the up to date *by minute which Developer plugins had updated and now compatible with Xplane-11 and modifying the Release note page accordingly.

Even though Laminar are a small team, they are too complacent with their attitude regarding keeping the public informed . With Microsoft FS2020 due this year, i would be making sure a Customer focus is a number one priority (constant communication) so as not to lose player numbers.

I have a 6 year old AMD R9 290. The jump in frames has almost been two-fold in external views. Laminar show brilliance in some areas (Flight model & Vulkan ) that are let down by complacency in other areas ( improved ATC being promised for some years).

If they want to keep player numbers, I would be conversing with Google and negotiating a deal so as to use Google Maps for AI updates to scenery (which is far more accurate than Bing -eg YSCB Canberra which uses images over 5 years old, the airport is still not under construction!!!)
最後修改者:BigKangaroo3; 2020 年 4 月 4 日 上午 12:43
Thogmar 2020 年 4 月 4 日 下午 5:35 
引用自 BigKangaroo3
You are welcome Piper. I have to say, I'm a little surprised at the Laminar Team for not being more on top of providing Customer Service.
For instance, the Better Pushback plugin has recently released an update that is Vulkan compatible.
https://github.com/skiselkov/BetterPushbackC/releases

If it was up to me, I would be conversing and monitoring the up to date *by minute which Developer plugins had updated and now compatible with Xplane-11 and modifying the Release note page accordingly.

Even though Laminar are a small team, they are too complacent with their attitude regarding keeping the public informed . With Microsoft FS2020 due this year, i would be making sure a Customer focus is a number one priority (constant communication) so as not to lose player numbers.

I have a 6 year old AMD R9 290. The jump in frames has almost been two-fold in external views. Laminar show brilliance in some areas (Flight model & Vulkan ) that are let down by complacency in other areas ( improved ATC being promised for some years).

If they want to keep player numbers, I would be conversing with Google and negotiating a deal so as to use Google Maps for AI updates to scenery (which is far more accurate than Bing -eg YSCB Canberra which uses images over 5 years old, the airport is still not under construction!!!)
" monitoring the up to date *by minute which Developer plugins had updated and now compatible with Xplane-11"
Lol, you're kidding right? There are literally thousands of plugins and other third party elements for X-plane. No developer in the world ever has or ever will test or guarantee a huge list of third party elements while trying to launch their software. You're like the nuts who expect devs to keep all their mods working and compatible too.
BigKangaroo3 2020 年 4 月 4 日 下午 7:12 
I understand you are an enthusiast X-Plane supporter and don't want to hear anything but adulation for them. I get that.

Yes, you are right about a huge number of plugins on offer and I should have perhaps clarified my point further.

On the X-Plane 11 release page for Vulkan, they have already given examples of plugins needing further work in order to be compatible with the Vulkan API.

https://www.x-plane.com/kb/x-plane-11-50-release-notes/

Aircraft using DreamEngine Sound
BetterPushback
Ground Traffic
Flight Factor A320
Flight Factor 767
JAR A320
JAR A330
JAR Ground Handling
librain
Some Orbx TrueEarth regions
SkyMaxx Pro
ToLiss A319 & A321
Traffic Global
xEnviro
xPilot
XPRealistic Pro
xSquawkBox

I'm sure Laminar know fully well which plugins are used most / paid for by X-Plane 11 simmers, thus the listing above. I use the Zibo 737-800 mod which uses Better Pushback (now updated for use with Vulkan) and AVI Tab (which isn't updated and causes the loss of being able to switch views when utilised)

It is of course the choice of 3rd Party devs if they decide to keep their Plugins updated, but not all are free like the many listed above.

In this case, these devs should absolutely be keeping their mods updated and compatible with each new X-Plane release and yes Laminar should be providing constant updates so as to keep their player base enthused. (Up to the minute updates was too extreme, perhaps weekly would be more appropriate).

I am very happy with the Vulkan B1 so far, even though the majority of my 3rd party plugins currently don't work. Being able to land without the fps falling below 20, improved shaders and textures, and reduced stutters have certainly breathed new life into the Sim.
Prezidentas 2020 年 4 月 4 日 下午 11:47 
引用自 BigKangaroo3
You are welcome Piper. I have to say, I'm a little surprised at the Laminar Team for not being more on top of providing Customer Service.
For instance, the Better Pushback plugin has recently released an update that is Vulkan compatible.
https://github.com/skiselkov/BetterPushbackC/releases

If it was up to me, I would be conversing and monitoring the up to date *by minute which Developer plugins had updated and now compatible with Xplane-11 and modifying the Release note page accordingly.

Even though Laminar are a small team, they are too complacent with their attitude regarding keeping the public informed . With Microsoft FS2020 due this year, i would be making sure a Customer focus is a number one priority (constant communication) so as not to lose player numbers.

I have a 6 year old AMD R9 290. The jump in frames has almost been two-fold in external views. Laminar show brilliance in some areas (Flight model & Vulkan ) that are let down by complacency in other areas ( improved ATC being promised for some years).

If they want to keep player numbers, I would be conversing with Google and negotiating a deal so as to use Google Maps for AI updates to scenery (which is far more accurate than Bing -eg YSCB Canberra which uses images over 5 years old, the airport is still not under construction!!!)
keep in mind that a big part of your new performance is amd drivers. laminar did a good job but their real impact can only be measured on nvidia cards, since they had good opengl and vulkan driver, while amd (on windows anyways) had a poor opengl driver, so the performance is coming from vulkan driver itself.
Secret Squirrel 2020 年 4 月 5 日 上午 11:28 
I would put it on the plugin developer -- especially paid plugins -- to provide me a good experience through transitioning to vulkan.

For example, flight factor b757 told me the X-plane version is unsupported, then it said there was an update, and walked me through the update process. It is still going, but I am sure that when it is done and I launch XP I will have a working aircraft supported in XP11.50.

I consider that a good example of how a plugin vendor should support transitioning through versions and/or major transformation of the XP engine.

What I consider not good would be having to launch XP, have it not start, or crashing, and then I have to go through the laborious process of troubleshooting which XP plugin is the culprit. Then find, for that plugin, there is no real support site, just an email support, which will send you back a form response (thank you for your inquiry.... etc."

XP11.50 was in developer beta for long enough that plugin vendors should have tested and ensure their product works, and issue an update to correct problems.

I don't put this on the XP development team or support. If we did that, then XP11.50 will come even slower.
tanawat8814 2020 年 4 月 5 日 下午 10:54 
While agreeing with the above, it seems that only a limited number of add-on developers were included in the closed betas, so the rest are only getting to see / test 11.50 as part of the open beta. Hence it will take some time before all / most become fully compatible.
old tail dragger 2020 年 4 月 6 日 上午 7:42 
Is this a update or a full load?
SpiritFire 2020 年 4 月 19 日 下午 7:36 
indeed. librain isnt working with vulcan.. sighs.
最後修改者:SpiritFire; 2020 年 4 月 19 日 下午 7:36
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