G1000 missing auto-pilot buttons

[elexay]

The "default" view of the G1000 fails to show any of the auto-pilot buttons. The buttons only appear when you click it to bring up the larger version. The spot where the buttons should be is blank and clicking in the area where there should be buttons doesn't do anything (i.e. the buttons aren't just invisible, they are completely missing).

Some of the buttons are mirrored on the lower console, so they can be used as opposed to constantly having to click open the "zoom" view of the G1000, then closing it again.

Is anyone else having this problem, and has anyone got a fix.

[old tail dragger]

That's the way I find it. I fly the Cirrus SF50.

[Kosmozuikis]

No fix. But i believe those buttons are located on another screen on the right.

[Echo Kilo]

Originally posted by elexay:

The "default" view of the G1000 fails to show any of the auto-pilot buttons. The buttons only appear when you click it to bring up the larger version.

If you are talking about the Cirrus SF50 Vision, then I believe that is intentional. The real Cirrus Vision uses G3000 flight deck, where the two main screen's functions are controlled by the 3 small touch screens below them. X-Plane does not model G3000 (at least for now), so the G1000 has been substituted instead. As the G3000 does not have any controls on the outer rim of the main screens, Laminar seems to have chosen to remove the autopilot controls from the 3D modeled units, and having them where they are in the real aircraft instead (the pop-up windows remain unchanged, so that's why you see the autopilot controls there). The other controls still remain on those main G1000 units, as the touch screens are not properly simulated. Below is a link to a picture of what the G3000 looks like.

https://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/ain30_fullwidth_large_2x/public/uploads/2015/09/cirrus-perspective-touch.jpg

[elexay]

It's just annoying. They modeled the Direct, Menu, FPL, PROC, CLR, and ENT buttons on the right side of the 1000 display between the RANGE and FMS wheels. Having to either click to bring up that large 2D version or scroll down to the bottom of the console where a subset of the buttons are located is particularly annoying.

I can appreciate they weren't up to modelling that G3000 (damn that looks sweet, thanks for the pic) but if they were going to sub the G1000 and create the 6 buttons on the right that don't belong, having the 12 AP buttons in left side of the 3D version couldn't have been that big a stretch..

DT

Originally posted by Echo Kilo:

Originally posted by elexay:

The "default" view of the G1000 fails to show any of the auto-pilot buttons. The buttons only appear when you click it to bring up the larger version.

If you are talking about the Cirrus SF50 Vision, then I believe that is intentional. The real Cirrus Vision uses G3000 flight deck, where the two main screen's functions are controlled by the 3 small touch screens below them. X-Plane does not model G3000 (at least for now), so the G1000 has been substituted instead. As the G3000 does not have any controls on the outer rim of the main screens, Laminar seems to have chosen to remove the autopilot controls from the 3D modeled units, and having them where they are in the real aircraft instead (the pop-up windows remain unchanged, so that's why you see the autopilot controls there). The other controls still remain on those main G1000 units, as the touch screens are not properly simulated. Below is a link to a picture of what the G3000 looks like.

https://www.ainonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/ain30_fullwidth_large_2x/public/uploads/2015/09/cirrus-perspective-touch.jpg

[minot]

Just for your information: The C172 SP w/ G1000 features all autopilot buttons at the left side of the ND. This is the GFC 700 autopilot which is integrated in the G1000 and correctly placed.

As to the Cirrus Vision: There is a dedicated, seperate autopilot below the Garmin 1000 screens. This is intentional and correct if you look at pictures of the real world Vision cockpit. I have, however, no idea why the 2D-panel of the G1000 shows these buttons. This should not be the case.

Please note that G1000 does not always have an integrated autopilot: I for my part, for example, took parts of my real world flight training (instrument rating and multi-engine-piston class rating) on a C172 SP as well as on a Diamond DA-42, both of them equipped with G1000 avionics. None of them had an integrated autopilot (GFC700) but only a seperate (rather basic) KAP-140 autopilot. The respective G1000 screens look exactly as they do on the Cirrus Vision 3D panel. Just look at this picture of a DA-42's cockpit (not the one I flew, but very similar): http://www.airliners.net/photo/Diamond-DA-42-180-Twin/0913998/L The PFD is on the left side, in the center you find the audio panel, the ND is on the right side. Please note that no autopilot buttons are there, but there is a KAP-140 just below the ND, between the landing gear lever and the flaps indication.

Unfortunately, XPlane's simulation of the G1000 avionics is rather basic and quite buggy. I hope that at least the major bugs will be corrected soon.

[Kosmozuikis]

Originally posted by minot:

Just for your information: The C172 SP w/ G1000 features all autopilot buttons at the left side of the ND. This is the GFC 700 autopilot which is integrated in the G1000 and correctly placed.

As to the Cirrus Vision: There is a dedicated, seperate autopilot below the Garmin 1000 screens. This is intentional and correct if you look at pictures of the real world Vision cockpit. I have, however, no idea why the 2D-panel of the G1000 shows these buttons. This should not be the case.

Please note that G1000 does not always have an integrated autopilot: I for my part, for example, took parts of my real world flight training (instrument rating and multi-engine-piston class rating) on a C172 SP as well as on a Diamond DA-42, both of them equipped with G1000 avionics. None of them had an integrated autopilot (GFC700) but only a seperate (rather basic) KAP-140 autopilot. The respective G1000 screens look exactly as they do on the Cirrus Vision 3D panel. Just look at this picture of a DA-42's cockpit (not the one I flew, but very similar): http://www.airliners.net/photo/Diamond-DA-42-180-Twin/0913998/L The PFD is on the left side, in the center you find the audio panel, the ND is on the right side. Please note that no autopilot buttons are there, but there is a KAP-140 just below the ND, between the landing gear lever and the flaps indication.

Unfortunately, XPlane's simulation of the G1000 avionics is rather basic and quite buggy. I hope that at least the major bugs will be corrected soon.

There's no autopilot on the left side. It's on the right display. The problem is that left display doesn't match when open it in separate window. There is an autopilito when you open it but there's no one in cockpit.

[minot]

The ND (Navigation Display) is the right screen. The PFD (Primary Flight Display) is the left screen. Always.

C172 G1000 has the autopilot on the ND, exactly where it should be (for GFC 700 equipped aircraft).

Vision Jet has the autopilot on the centre, below the screens, exactly where it should be. The 2d image w/ autopilot control of the Vision Jet is wrong, as I said. This should be corrected.