ATC Problem Zibo 737X 3.33.

[AlphaWolf]

This happened just now i was flying from KCOS to KMCK.
after i report the field insight at KMCK . ATC suddenly said " You're leaving my airspace, Radar service terminated" when i read it back my Flight plane got canceled .
There was not Message of any Violation. i missed approach and landed on the other runway using ILS and there was no violation there too neither any ground control help for gate.
I'm Using Xplane 11 (11.40)
Please advise .
Thanks

[Secret Squirrel]

I don't think the built-in Xp11 ATC is without its own bugs. Frankly, if you got all the way to your destination airport before experiencing an ATC issue, then it is working pretty good.

VATSIM is the really the best place to go to put ATC into the game. Real people will beat AI any day of the week -- still in 2020.

[Prezidentas]

Default ATC is too buggy to be usable.

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by Secret Squirrel:

I don't think the built-in Xp11 ATC is without its own bugs. Frankly, if you got all the way to your destination airport before experiencing an ATC issue, then it is working pretty good.

VATSIM is the really the best place to go to put ATC into the game. Real people will beat AI any day of the week -- still in 2020.

VATSIM? i'm very new to Xplane . kindly explain coz Zibo is my first mod for the game everything else is stock

[AlphaWolf]

Originally posted by Red Star Gopnik:

Default ATC is too buggy to be usable.

What's the better option out there then ?

[Maki Nishikino]

Been using VATSIM for 10 years, haven't used a default ATC in a sim ever since...

https://www.vatsim.net/about

It just got overhauled not too long ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W4dxOgoxhg

[Thogmar]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Been using VATSIM for 10 years, haven't used a default ATC in a sim ever since...

https://www.vatsim.net/about

It just got overhauled not too long ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W4dxOgoxhg

Yeah, tried VATSIM about 10 years ago, tried to get clearances for VFR on top, local pattern VFR touch and goes, and other practice maneuvers and the controllers not only didn't have a clue but were arrogant and angry about the requests. Also was held waiting for takeoff clearances for 15-20 minutes at a time, with me having to repeatedly contact the controllers for updates and clearances. Also, having one voice and person (who is often unfamiliar with distant areas and their procedures) along an entire transcontinental journey was unrealistic and frustrating.
Tried it for a couple weeks and bailed on it, truly an awful system.

[Secret Squirrel]

These days, you will find a much better experience on VATSIM. If anything, it is us pilots that are clueless.

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by Thogmar:

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Been using VATSIM for 10 years, haven't used a default ATC in a sim ever since...

https://www.vatsim.net/about

It just got overhauled not too long ago...

-snip-

Yeah, tried VATSIM about 10 years ago, tried to get clearances for VFR on top, local pattern VFR touch and goes, and other practice maneuvers and the controllers not only didn't have a clue but were arrogant and angry about the requests. Also was held waiting for takeoff clearances for 15-20 minutes at a time, with me having to repeatedly contact the controllers for updates and clearances. Also, having one voice and person (who is often unfamiliar with distant areas and their procedures) along an entire transcontinental journey was unrealistic and frustrating.
Tried it for a couple weeks and bailed on it, truly an awful system.

This tells to me that you let a few bad apples at best ruin something that really raises the bar in your flight sim experience. If you ever have issues with a VATSIM controller you can leave feedback on that controllers ARTCC website or call up a supervisor while on the network.

If you're VFR and there is loads of IFR traffic and only one controller is online (especially a center) then it's best to use common sense and do your touch and goes at an uncontrolled airfield being mindful of any controlled airspace around you. It's much, much easier to do pattern work now that you can talk on 122.80 (any frequency can be talked on now). I've been denied a request simply because I was VFR, the controller was too busy and I understand that.

You're not always going to be on one frequency, sometimes controllers are stationed on different sectors within the area that you're flying. I've been handed off a number of times when under flight following in a little Cessna or Piper.

Friday Night Ops are loaded. I love when I connect to the network on Friday Night Ops and see the VATSIM pilot client just get spammed with frequencies, it puts a smile on my face and I have to double check my chart to make sure I am going to contract the right controller.

If you expect a non-profit organization to be staffed to real life values more often than not then you're being unrealistic. Nobody is getting paid to be a controller on VATSIM, they do it simply because they have a passion for aviation and they want to give to the community.

I very much higher recommend that if anyone wants to take their enjoyment of flight simulation to a whole new level they try out VATSIM. Most will never look at flight simulation the same.

Originally posted by Secret Squirrel:

These days, you will find a much better experience on VATSIM. If anything, it is us pilots that are clueless.

It most certainly is, sometimes it's meme worthy and I save the clips via ShadowPlay. A lot of pilots love to drag out transmissions and I can't help but think controllers are like "Get to the point!" while looking at their radar screen loaded with aircraft.