How can I get good fps?

[TheAvPman]

I have tried lowering the settings with little change on my 30 fps. This persists even though I have a 1080ti asus rog strix oc i5 8600K 16 gigs of ram and a 256g ssd with a 2tb hard drive.

[TheAvPman]

harryorlsen eredeti hozzászólása:

Again this topic :D

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/150274-datarefs-win-10-tweaks-more-frames-boosts-for-x-plane-11/

Happy fiddeling ;D

Wow that is a great site Thanks so much really helps

[Captain Wolf]

harryorlsen eredeti hozzászólása:

Again this topic :D

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/150274-datarefs-win-10-tweaks-more-frames-boosts-for-x-plane-11/

Happy fiddeling ;D

this is pretty hardcore. Thank God it's short. Is there a way to turn this down a notch or two? Maybe a quick paraphrase?

[John W]

Most of the stuff there is fairly straight forward. But I for one will not turn off system restore on my system. And game mode in windows 10 makes things worse not better for me. Probably because I run XP11 in windowed mode not full screen.

[harryorlsen]

The PC is not a console and XP is not only a shooter. ;)

Btw the most improvements brought me cpu overclocking @ 4.7 ghz - cannot get higher with my old i5. XP is cpu intensive with the old OGL-engine and the highest core clockspeed leads to higher frames + more smoothness. Hopefully the new Vulkan-engine will bring us a brighter future.

Right now the best CPU for XP is the i7 8700k overclocked. For more words check the org forum. A lot of topics about hardware & performance.

In the past I was also a stockspeed cpu user. Spending more time in XP changed that. ;) In my case: my i5 is overclocked and my 1080ti is underclocked - why a TI? VRAM. ;)

Happy sunday @ll. :)

PS: I am waitung for Vulkan before I will start with a hardware upgrade.

[jacobuspleroux]

I run Xplane on a Pentium G4560 (2 core, 4 core hyperthreaded) and GTX 1050 Ti (4Gb) with 8 Gb RAM, settings on high, and seldom get less than 30 Fps on this relatively cheap setup, even over New York.

[Captain Wolf]

The only part of the conversation I understand is the part about mesing with the graphics options in settings and then striking a balance between computer performance (FPS) and visual quality.

Is all of this over and undercloking practical stuff that would make a big difference? Is this something that a lot of people mess with in this community or is it limitied to a smaller group videophiles / computer enthusiasts. I've never done any of this.

[TheAvPman]

just to let everyone know I found a lua that supposedly bosts frames https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/38214-xp11-performance-boost-shadow-improvement/

[harryorlsen]

There is always a first time. ;) Maybe this will help to understand this subject better:
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/507343-understanding-x-plane-11-performance/

Thanks for the link and the same guy did this:
https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/40501-lod-performance-and-visuals-script/

[John W]

Something else to keep in mind is how much memory and VRAM you have on your system. Right now I'm flying patterns at KPHX (Nimbus Studios). My system usage is as follows: CPU 30%, RAM 16G out of 32G, GPU 60%, VRAM 10G out of 11G usage. So XP 11 is both CPU and GPU intensive and as just shown will fill up your resources depending on what scenery, aircraft, addons, etc you are using. So for those trying to figure out how to tweak your XP11 settings to get better frames, the biggest improvement to performance is RAM and VRAM. By the way, with all of the stuff I have loaded at KPHX I'm only getting 19-30 FPS.

[Captain Wolf]

I might have more of a console shoooter mentality where 30 fps would be bad and choppy. John, wouldn't you want to decrease some of the graphic settings and go for 45 fps instead of 19-30?

[John W]

CaptainWolf2002 eredeti hozzászólása:

I might have more of a console shoooter mentality where 30 fps would be bad and choppy. John, wouldn't you want to decrease some of the graphic settings and go for 45 fps instead of 19-30?

I don't really pay attention to what the fps shows on the output. I check it every once in a while but I just go by what my eyes tell me. The low frames are only in really dense scenery areas anyway and for the most part, as long as the fps is above 20 I don't really see that much of a difference. I'd rather put up with the frames in high density areas and have the eyecandy, but that's just me. I know I can reduce my settings but I don't like the results.

[John W]

Well I just tried going through all of the different settings in XP11 to compare frames, etc. Amazing how many time XP11 crashed doing this. About once for each setting change. Aparently XP11 doesn't like it when you change settings while you are flying. Yes I can reduce settings, namely for world objects, reflections and ground shadows and easily get above 40 fps. I just confirmed that I don't like it at those settings. I like flying mostly at lower altitudes, so I want to see objects, not just ground textures. And what's the point of purchasing addon scenery if you are going to mostly turn it off by reducing the number of world objects. For the most part with my settings set at:

Visual Effects High (HDR)
Texture Quality Maximum
Antialiasing 8x SSAA+FXAA (highest quality)
Number of World Objects Maximum
Reflection Detail Maximum
Draw parked aircraft Checked
Draw shadows on scenery Checked

I get smooth scenery movement. Sometimes a little jump in really high scenery areas, but for the most part in most of my flying everything is smooth to the eye.

If things start looking choppy, I.E. getting below 20FPS, then I can reduce Number of World Objects by one and uncheck Draw shadows on scenery. But this again is just my preference. I posted it so that others can compare their settings and make a choice on their own, if they want higher frames at the cost of detail or not.

I was really surprised at my findings and how low my FPS is actually getting in XP11 (I normally have the FPS readout turned off). Reminds me of the frames I'm getting when I fly FSX SE with all of my ORBX scenery. I wouldn't have thought that I had already loaded so much into XP11 that it would have gotten this way. Some of this could be because I have the Enriched Autogen files for the entire world installed as well as the W2XP forests for each continent.

[harryorlsen]

John W eredeti hozzászólása:

My system usage is as follows: CPU 30%...... I'm only getting 19-30 FPS.

Just one note:

Monitoring just your task manager is not accurate. To see what is really happening in XP you need to watch X-planes Data Output and monitor your CPU and GPU timing. There is more happening under the bonnet, not only CPU usage. Instruction sets and IT-freaks know more about it what is happening under the cpu-bonnet.

XP Data Output:

" f-act/sec - This is the actual (real time) frame rate being processed in X-Plane. This number is the direct result of two other outputs, shown below

f-sim/sec - This is the frame rate the simulator is processing for the purpose of maintaining stability to the flight model. If you haven't adjusted your flight model, in the settings, disregard this for now.

frame time - This is the time required to render one frame, in seconds, based on the current position of your aircraft in the sim, taking into account of weather, scenery objects and mesh.

cpu time - A rate (in seconds) at which the cpu is processing one frame in the sim, and outputting to the frame rate time.

gpu time - A rate (in seconds) at which the gpu is processing one frame in the sim, and outputting to the frame rate time."

To reach frames above 30 frames per second (fps) gpu and cpu timers must stay under 0.0330. Lower timer values bring you higher frames.

Any interests: Overclock your CPU with a proper cooler and see what is happening.

[harryorlsen]

Agi did some fiddeling on her machine. Here her results in german, thanks for that:

https://flyagi.de/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=61

[TheAvPman]

John W eredeti hozzászólása:

Well I just tried going through all of the different settings in XP11 to compare frames, etc. Amazing how many time XP11 crashed doing this. About once for each setting change. Aparently XP11 doesn't like it when you change settings while you are flying. Yes I can reduce settings, namely for world objects, reflections and ground shadows and easily get above 40 fps. I just confirmed that I don't like it at those settings. I like flying mostly at lower altitudes, so I want to see objects, not just ground textures. And what's the point of purchasing addon scenery if you are going to mostly turn it off by reducing the number of world objects. For the most part with my settings set at:

Visual Effects High (HDR)
Texture Quality Maximum
Antialiasing 8x SSAA+FXAA (highest quality)
Number of World Objects Maximum
Reflection Detail Maximum
Draw parked aircraft Checked
Draw shadows on scenery Checked

I get smooth scenery movement. Sometimes a little jump in really high scenery areas, but for the most part in most of my flying everything is smooth to the eye.

If things start looking choppy, I.E. getting below 20FPS, then I can reduce Number of World Objects by one and uncheck Draw shadows on scenery. But this again is just my preference. I posted it so that others can compare their settings and make a choice on their own, if they want higher frames at the cost of detail or not.

I was really surprised at my findings and how low my FPS is actually getting in XP11 (I normally have the FPS readout turned off). Reminds me of the frames I'm getting when I fly FSX SE with all of my ORBX scenery. I wouldn't have thought that I had already loaded so much into XP11 that it would have gotten this way. Some of this could be because I have the Enriched Autogen files for the entire world installed as well as the W2XP forests for each continent.

Things getting choppy is what process lasso is for