X-Plane 11

X-Plane 11

wowogiengen Jul 13, 2019 @ 12:42am
pricing WTF?
Today I decided that i wanted to have the XPlane 11 - after seeing some youtube trailers and pictures. I know that it has been on sale a couple of days ago, and would have bought it for that reduced price.
Today I went to the shop page and oversaw the DLC that is available. Seriously. if the base simulator is already at 60 Euros they want for about 60 more DLC as much as 1200 Euro?

I dont think, that the game is worth this much.
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Burning Bridges Jul 13, 2019 @ 1:15am 
Nobody buys the entire DLC for a simulator, this is premium content that has been created by 1000s of 3rd party developers who want to make a small living from it and sometimes succeed (a lot of the stuff is not bought at all)

You can expect to buy few planes and other content in your flight sim career though. It will not be the first sim where I eventually spend a couple 100$ for 1000s hours of playing and that is all right.

For now you need nothing as there is a lot of good freeware content.Or you buy a premium plane for 50$ that takes months to learn. But you certainly dont go and spend 2000$ on 100 airport sceneries.
thekadani Jul 13, 2019 @ 7:18am 
These DLCs are not like in usual games, these are so call Add-ons. You can think of them more like when you for example buy Adobe Photoshop that runs on Microsoft Windows, you can for example buy the Aerosoft CRJ 200 that runs on Laminar Research x-plane 11.

Furthermore the DLCs available here are not the only one you can buy, checkout https://x-plane.org for example and there is also a lot of stuff available for free made by enthusiasts.

When you for example buy the Aerosoft Zürich airport addon you get a new, more realistic "skin" for the already included Zürich airport.
This means scenery designers working for Aeorosft have created custom 3d models and textures that look exactly like the buildings at Zürich airport. This usually takes many working hours and probably also some journeys to take specific photos at this airport and such and therefore the price tag.

It's also not uncommon (also for other simulators) that some single addon might even have a higher price tag than the actual base simulator.

There is also add-on hardware for flight simulators, this is maybe one of the most extreme examples in which the base product (x-plane 11) is probably the cheapest part of the setup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK1xP9Wqzx0

You can also start designing your own aircraft, airport or plugin and either upload it for free or even sell it, since all software and documentation required for creating own stuff is included, all this is documented at https://developer.x-plane.com

Welcome to the world of flight simming.

By the way:
I use no payware Add-on at all with x-plane since I'm quite happy with what it gives me by default for what I use it in combination with some very good freeware tools!
Burning Bridges Jul 13, 2019 @ 7:41am 
What people may have problems to understand is that flight sims like XP are more like operating systems than games. They are designed to be used as a platform for everyone to develop really complicated systems that you can then share as freeware or monetize.

The misunderstanding that wowogiengen may have fallen for is that he thinks all this DLC content is by Laminar Research when in fact they would need 100s if not 1000s of employees to create so many on addons. And the reasons that they are so expensive is that they are often an awful lot of time to make (many addon planes are not even on Steam and took years to make just like a game). And also a lot of them are overpriced but that is a different matter.

The other point is that most of the content is already in XP. There is a database of 1000s airports inclided which often have 3d scenery and there is global scenery (only polar and antarctic regions are missing). It's not like you need to buy airport XY but rather you can buy airport xy that someone spent months to make, with very intricate ground traffic and 3d modelling to perfectly match the real thing. Some peope buy an airport because it is their home or they have plenty of money but buying addon airports is imo the least thing I would worry about.

And there are a lot of really good planes included in the base game too they are just not modelled to study levels.
SmartAsMarbles Jul 13, 2019 @ 9:03am 
The thing I hate is I'm getting 100$ for my birthday and I want to buy X plane but the price is 60$ that's really steep even for a high quality sim and because the X plane 10 app costs for aircraft I don't know if I need to buy aircraft as well.
Kosmozuikis Jul 13, 2019 @ 9:39am 
Buy it on sale. 65€ is way too much for what it's offering because you need to spend more money on dlc to make it enjoyable. Although there's no good DLC on steam so you can just ignore that and lose absolutely nothing.
Burning Bridges Jul 13, 2019 @ 12:14pm 
Buy it on sale, 2 weeks ago the price was 40$

Eventually you should reserve the 30-70$ for 1 really good plane that you carefully selected and really want to become one with but for the beginning you dont even need it. The included planes are good, just not study level.

And it's true most of the really expensive addons are not even on Steam for example OrbX, FlyJSim, LES, IXEG, Flight Factor, VSkylabs and many others

Thogmar Jul 13, 2019 @ 4:57pm 
:steamfacepalm:
wowogiengen Jul 14, 2019 @ 1:30am 
Having XP not from steam means you can not play dlc from steam. And i dont think that dlc on steam is available on other locations too...
Echo Kilo Jul 14, 2019 @ 4:16am 
Originally posted by wowogiengen:
Having XP not from steam means you can not play dlc from steam. And i dont think that dlc on steam is available on other locations too...
Most, if not all, of those addons are also available for non-Steam version of X-Plane. As far as I am aware, the Steam version of X-Plane is provided by Aerosoft and many of the DLCs on Steam can also be purchased directly from Aerosoft's website for the non-Steam version.
Last edited by Echo Kilo; Jul 14, 2019 @ 4:18am
Prezidentas Jul 14, 2019 @ 4:32am 
Originally posted by Echo Kilo:
Originally posted by wowogiengen:
Having XP not from steam means you can not play dlc from steam. And i dont think that dlc on steam is available on other locations too...
Most, if not all, of those addons are also available for non-Steam version of X-Plane. As far as I am aware, the Steam version of X-Plane is provided by Aerosoft and many of the DLCs on Steam can also be purchased directly from Aerosoft's website for the non-Steam version.
This is correct.
thekadani Jul 14, 2019 @ 8:43am 
Afaik all Aerosoft Add-ons you can download as DLCs here are also available via: https://www.aerosoft.com/en/flight-simulation/xplane-11/?p=1&n=500
jerdawg Jul 14, 2019 @ 9:14am 
Want to have some fun? Go to your nearest bank; apply for 30 year mortgage and then buy train simulator 2019 and all the DLC that goes with it.
Prezidentas Jul 14, 2019 @ 9:22am 
Originally posted by jerdawg:
Want to have some fun? Go to your nearest bank; apply for 30 year mortgage and then buy train simulator 2019 and all the DLC that goes with it.
At this point it's cheaper to pay a software pir acy fine than buy all of it :D
Stringbean Jul 14, 2019 @ 12:34pm 
When I go into the supermarket for a loaf of bread I'm amazed at the amount of extra addons I can buy for my base sandwich which could cost thousands,

Seriously,..you get what you need either for X-plane or your sandwich. :steamhappy:
BluesyMoo Jul 14, 2019 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by zachocking14:
The thing I hate is I'm getting 100$ for my birthday and I want to buy X plane but the price is 60$ that's really steep even for a high quality sim and because the X plane 10 app costs for aircraft I don't know if I need to buy aircraft as well.

X-Plane comes with a good selection of planes to fly, so you don't need to buy anything unless you *must* fly a certain plane.

Or you can accumulate 18 birthdays, at which point the social expectation is you'll be getting your own money and will be able to afford, say, X-Plane 20 and any addons easily.
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