GAMEPLAY MOTORCYCLES

[Guilherme]

Hi developers, could you remove this mechanism where motorcycles do a "Burnout" when starting at high engine speed?

Technically this is impossible, and it ruins the gameplay. It didn't exist in TCW2, and I don't know why it ended up here.

The gravity of weight and force makes this feat impossible. A motorcycle only spins its rear tire if the rider keeps the front brake pressed. Physically the only risk of starting at high speed is the rider doing a very strong wheelie.

Look at real life motorcycles, this is unlikely. And as a motorcycle lover, I am disappointed with this element, and on top of that the gameplay of motorcycles leaves a LOT to be desired.

[Ubi-WheelyDuck]

Hey Guilherme,

Thank you for kindly reaching out and sharing this feedback regarding motorcycle burnouts and realism. We use this type of feedback to better understand what players might like to see in the future.

If ever we can help with anything else in the future, just let us know

[AvenGer1337]

Originally posted by Ubi-WheelyDuck:

Hey Guilherme,

Thank you for kindly reaching out and sharing this feedback regarding motorcycle burnouts and realism. We use this type of feedback to better understand what players might like to see in the future.

If ever we can help with anything else in the future, just let us know

can u also buff them a little bit ? they are the slowest and any hit against the wall will get u literally to a complete stop most of times and no one uses them at all

[Trevinator1990]

Originally posted by Guilherme:

Hi developers, could you remove this mechanism where motorcycles do a "Burnout" when starting at high engine speed?

Technically this is impossible, and it ruins the gameplay. It didn't exist in TCW2, and I don't know why it ended up here.

The gravity of weight and force makes this feat impossible. A motorcycle only spins its rear tire if the rider keeps the front brake pressed. Physically the only risk of starting at high speed is the rider doing a very strong wheelie.

Look at real life motorcycles, this is unlikely. And as a motorcycle lover, I am disappointed with this element, and on top of that the gameplay of motorcycles leaves a LOT to be desired.

you have apparently never ridden a yamaha vmax with the 1700cc engine then. that thing will do a rolling burnout at 30mph without even trying. i know because i did that on a demo ride. dropped down to first gear, gave it some revs and let out the clutch. the rpms went up but i wasnt going any faster. didnt even realize it was doing a burnout until we got back and the guy behind me said that it was pretty cool. if there is even the slightest gravel or dirt on a road, a motorcycle will in fact spin the rear tire up with ease. maybe you have never ridden a bike with decent hp, but you sir are wrong here.

[Guilherme]

Originally posted by Trevinator1990:

Originally posted by Guilherme:

Hi developers, could you remove this mechanism where motorcycles do a "Burnout" when starting at high engine speed?

Technically this is impossible, and it ruins the gameplay. It didn't exist in TCW2, and I don't know why it ended up here.

The gravity of weight and force makes this feat impossible. A motorcycle only spins its rear tire if the rider keeps the front brake pressed. Physically the only risk of starting at high speed is the rider doing a very strong wheelie.

Look at real life motorcycles, this is unlikely. And as a motorcycle lover, I am disappointed with this element, and on top of that the gameplay of motorcycles leaves a LOT to be desired.

you have apparently never ridden a yamaha vmax with the 1700cc engine then. that thing will do a rolling burnout at 30mph without even trying. i know because i did that on a demo ride. dropped down to first gear, gave it some revs and let out the clutch. the rpms went up but i wasnt going any faster. didnt even realize it was doing a burnout until we got back and the guy behind me said that it was pretty cool. if there is even the slightest gravel or dirt on a road, a motorcycle will in fact spin the rear tire up with ease. maybe you have never ridden a bike with decent hp, but you sir are wrong here.

Ok, sir, you have a lot of knowledge about motorcycles, but now let me ask you a question.

Does only the Yamaha VMAX do this in the game or just all motorcycles? Yes, my dear friend, all motorcycles do this burnout, regardless of engine size.

One more question, why don't all video games have this? Not even The Crew 1 and 2 did this. No matter the throttle, the motorcycle ALWAYS burnouts when starting off.

Now just to add to this. Could you show me some videos where motorcycles start off at high speed and burnout? I can show you several videos, and none of them do what you mentioned, including the Yamaha VMAX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBXrP8m2Gek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73k10_wnL9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdV3bLoCUz8

This is a real motorcycle accelerating, firm friction to the ground, without burnout.

[Trevinator1990]

Originally posted by Guilherme:

Originally posted by Trevinator1990:

you have apparently never ridden a yamaha vmax with the 1700cc engine then. that thing will do a rolling burnout at 30mph without even trying. i know because i did that on a demo ride. dropped down to first gear, gave it some revs and let out the clutch. the rpms went up but i wasnt going any faster. didnt even realize it was doing a burnout until we got back and the guy behind me said that it was pretty cool. if there is even the slightest gravel or dirt on a road, a motorcycle will in fact spin the rear tire up with ease. maybe you have never ridden a bike with decent hp, but you sir are wrong here.

Ok, sir, you have a lot of knowledge about motorcycles, but now let me ask you a question.

Does only the Yamaha VMAX do this in the game or just all motorcycles? Yes, my dear friend, all motorcycles do this burnout, regardless of engine size.

One more question, why don't all video games have this? Not even The Crew 1 and 2 did this. No matter the throttle, the motorcycle ALWAYS burnouts when starting off.

Now just to add to this. Could you show me some videos where motorcycles start off at high speed and burnout? I can show you several videos, and none of them do what you mentioned, including the Yamaha VMAX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBXrP8m2Gek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73k10_wnL9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdV3bLoCUz8

This is a real motorcycle accelerating, firm friction to the ground, without burnout.

all those videos are showing a drag strip that is prepped to be extra sticky. have you not seen the videos of people losing their shoes trying to walk across the prepped areas on a drag strip? i have not even used a motorcycle in this game yet as i couldnt get past the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ frame rate and stuttering it has, and that is with a 3080ti!

its a real motorcycle doing a rolling burnout without using the front brake! imagine that!
https://youtu.be/eXLPrg1NnIc?si=8QXZmJUyV4C9gvlA&t=22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7qGz35PcgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1VD273VgVw

[Trevinator1990]

just tried some of the bikes.... that little bit of wheel spin on take off is what your complaining about? pretty sure i have done that on my own 2017 yamaha fj-09. all it takes is some dust on the road and its EASY to spin the tire up!

[Guilherme]

Originally posted by Trevinator1990:

Originally posted by Guilherme:

Ok, sir, you have a lot of knowledge about motorcycles, but now let me ask you a question.

Does only the Yamaha VMAX do this in the game or just all motorcycles? Yes, my dear friend, all motorcycles do this burnout, regardless of engine size.

One more question, why don't all video games have this? Not even The Crew 1 and 2 did this. No matter the throttle, the motorcycle ALWAYS burnouts when starting off.

Now just to add to this. Could you show me some videos where motorcycles start off at high speed and burnout? I can show you several videos, and none of them do what you mentioned, including the Yamaha VMAX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBXrP8m2Gek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73k10_wnL9E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdV3bLoCUz8

This is a real motorcycle accelerating, firm friction to the ground, without burnout.

all those videos are showing a drag strip that is prepped to be extra sticky. have you not seen the videos of people losing their shoes trying to walk across the prepped areas on a drag strip? i have not even used a motorcycle in this game yet as i couldnt get past the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ frame rate and stuttering it has, and that is with a 3080ti!

its a real motorcycle doing a rolling burnout without using the front brake! imagine that!
https://youtu.be/eXLPrg1NnIc?si=8QXZmJUyV4C9gvlA&t=22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7qGz35PcgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1VD273VgVw

Let's take it one step at a time

You admit that you didn't even use motorcycles in this game, so how can you argue?

About the videos you sent, they all show burnouts where the bike is already in constant motion, and didn't start from a standing start... and my complaint is exactly that, "bikes that burn out when starting from starting points"

Show me a bike starting from a "standing" starting point at high engine speed and burning tires, and I'll simply stop arguing

[Guilherme]

Originally posted by Trevinator1990:

just tried some of the bikes.... that little bit of wheel spin on take off is what your complaining about? pretty sure i have done that on my own 2017 yamaha fj-09. all it takes is some dust on the road and its EASY to spin the tire up!

You say, "just a little dust, or a little dirt on the track" and that happens in real life too. OK bro, so ALL THE ASPHALT IN THIS GAME IS DUSTY AND DIRTY LOL

[Trevinator1990]

look, this game is ass anyways so i really dont care as im not going to play it. the screen stuttering is horrible on this game and it doesnt save the graphics settings so i cant even fix it. but here ya go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RJvX-iInfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gh2AbK5pzo

[Trevinator1990]

oh, and here is one on a 150cc vespa! LMAO https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_w73WmhqJ_I

[Guilherme]

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