Difference between items ?

[ArmeniaX]

For example I am trying to figure what is the difference between

Triple Funnel

and

Prefabricated Air Intake

[Get Used for It]

If i understand correctly - first is exhaust and second are intake. Your boat take boost from 1 intake and 1 exhaust, but energy consumption for each element if you have more than one.

[Hagalazꑭ]

https://yourimageshare.com/ib/P3mGkTxYIp

One is big and bulky (can be used to provide some protection to structures behind it)
Second is smaller (can be fitted into smaller boats)

Depending on your ship design, uses may vary. Just like Lego, you know.

[Ryuu]

I'd make a database if there was a way to find standard/average stats of the components, do you know it?

[A Wild Shrew]

Originally posted by Ryuu:

I'd make a database if there was a way to find standard/average stats of the components, do you know it?

The funnels and intakes all give a flat percentage increase in 5% increments 5-25 And a flat power drain of 2 for t1 6 for t2 12 for t3 and 20 for t4, I've not bothered with a t5, Other than that the only stats are health and weight,
the weight stats I have on mine are
t1: both 50
t2: 165-345
t3: 2.1-2.4k
t4 only got one at 4.8k
Health
t1: 100-200
t2: 370-605
t3: 3.2-3.9k
t4: 4.2k

Hope that helps ;)

[Ryuu]

Originally posted by A Wild Shrew:

Originally posted by Ryuu:

I'd make a database if there was a way to find standard/average stats of the components, do you know it?

The funnels and intakes all give a flat percentage increase in 5% increments 5-25 And a flat power drain of 2 for t1 6 for t2 12 for t3 and 20 for t4, I've not bothered with a t5, Other than that the only stats are health and weight,
the weight stats I have on mine are
t1: both 50
t2: 165-345
t3: 2.1-2.4k
t4 only got one at 4.8k
Health
t1: 100-200
t2: 370-605
t3: 3.2-3.9k
t4: 4.2k

Hope that helps ;)

I said average/standard stats, this is too much hassle writing down stats of each copy of the item, sorry :(

Or if there were a game mod which could collect and upload those stats to a database automatically, but that's unrealistic.

For boat-craftable items there's a way to show their standard stats:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2482124326754693598/7E62766329B8F185641F1B7A565A2E90652C5FF1/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2482124326754687778/74E0A54C9628438A22065D1BF180458C647A949E/

[A Wild Shrew]

Originally posted by Ryuu:

Originally posted by A Wild Shrew:

The funnels and intakes all give a flat percentage increase in 5% increments 5-25 And a flat power drain of 2 for t1 6 for t2 12 for t3 and 20 for t4, I've not bothered with a t5, Other than that the only stats are health and weight,
the weight stats I have on mine are
t1: both 50
t2: 165-345
t3: 2.1-2.4k
t4 only got one at 4.8k
Health
t1: 100-200
t2: 370-605
t3: 3.2-3.9k
t4: 4.2k

Hope that helps ;)

I said average/standard stats, this is too much hassle writing down stats of each copy of the item, sorry :(

Or if there were a game mod which could collect and upload those stats to a database automatically, but that's unrealistic.

For boat-craftable items there's a way to show their standard stats:
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2482124326754693598/7E62766329B8F185641F1B7A565A2E90652C5FF1/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2482124326754687778/74E0A54C9628438A22065D1BF180458C647A949E/

I have enough t2s to say the middle ground is most likely the average

[Ryuu]

Originally posted by A Wild Shrew:

I have enough t2s to say the middle ground is most likely the average

Yeah, but for that one need to scan all items manually, too much hassle. I'll wait for an easier way for now.
Or maybe there's a way to read them from the game's data.

[ArmeniaX]

Originally posted by Get Used for It:

If i understand correctly - first is exhaust and second are intake. Your boat take boost from 1 intake and 1 exhaust, but energy consumption for each element if you have more than one.

Sorry if I misunderstood but you mean you won’t get more boost for more than 1 exhaust or more than 1 intake? I see people running with multiples?

[ArmeniaX]

Originally posted by Hagalazꑭ:

https://yourimageshare.com/ib/P3mGkTxYIp

One is big and bulky (can be used to provide some protection to structures behind it)
Second is smaller (can be fitted into smaller boats)

Depending on your ship design, uses may vary. Just like Lego, you know.

Thank you!

[Ryuu]

Originally posted by ArmeniaX:

Originally posted by Get Used for It:

If i understand correctly - first is exhaust and second are intake. Your boat take boost from 1 intake and 1 exhaust, but energy consumption for each element if you have more than one.

Sorry if I misunderstood but you mean you won’t get more boost for more than 1 exhaust or more than 1 intake? I see people running with multiples?

Those who know say it's been the same in the closed beta test, so i tend to trust their expertise, there are many small issues and bugs in the game. Here's another quote: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2695490/discussions/0/4364627785848020126/#c4364627785848120957

[AugustusTirion]

Originally posted by Ryuu:

Originally posted by ArmeniaX:

Sorry if I misunderstood but you mean you won’t get more boost for more than 1 exhaust or more than 1 intake? I see people running with multiples?

Yeah, that's what he means. Most players likely don't know and don't notice that, because it's not written anywhere in the game and it's not too easy to check. But those who know say it's been the same in the closed beta test, so i tend to trust their expertise, there are many small issues and bugs in the game.

Here's another quote: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2695490/discussions/0/4364627785848020126/#c4364627785848120957

Have had 1 exhaust and 2 intakes on my ship for a long time.
Read that and.. 'opps... let me go change my ship'.
Took off 2nd air intake... and lost speed.
Both cruise and boost speed.
So... no, that's wrong.

[Armitage Shanks]

Originally posted by ArmeniaX:

Originally posted by Get Used for It:

If i understand correctly - first is exhaust and second are intake. Your boat take boost from 1 intake and 1 exhaust, but energy consumption for each element if you have more than one.

Sorry if I misunderstood but you mean you won’t get more boost for more than 1 exhaust or more than 1 intake? I see people running with multiples?

No idea how people came up with this hypothesis. There's literally nothing to support it. Funnels and intakes perform the exact same function, to increase your boats engine power. They differ from the fan motors in they don't increase the MAXIMUM speed of your boat, but they do help to reach the cap. Multiples will increase your boats engine power additively (2 triple funnels will increase engine power by 30% for example).

Other then that, it's purely a cosmetic difference.

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Ok,from my testing it seems you only get 1 bonus from 1 intake and 1 bonus from 1 funnel.
Seems pointless to have multiple air intakes.
Can a dev help us with more info?
This effectivly means your ship is hard capped at around 100 speed.
The helmsman skill to boost engine power didn't seem to do anything.
Probably the devs should make it more clear how this engine power system works.
I like it but its a mystery😩

[Ryuu]

So there's still no consensus? :) Different players get different results?

Originally posted by Neyreyan_Youtube:

The helmsman skill to boost engine power didn't seem to do anything.

It's power, not speed increase, so i interpret it as "improves acceleration, especially of a heavily-loaded boat".
But i agree, the explanation from the studio would be a welcome read. For now we can only guess and test a black box.

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

That would mean there are more weird stats.
The boat seems to pick up speed at the same rate, weight only helps stabilise the ship.
Engine power only seems to determine how close you get to max speed and when its 1:1 you reach max speed and the extra engine power is wasted.
Now, its max speed also related to weight? Meaning you need more engine power as you put on more weight? Dont think so.
It's a mystery but the mechanics are still nice. It was fun balancing all this out.
Power output is consumed passivly by stuff that increases speed so the sollution is to make bigger batteries so you need less of them and can put more diesel gens.
Probably they will clear out this in the UI at some point.
The curent stats shown like hull hp and top speed are just confusing.