Chemical Waste dredge spots; why only 1 crate, and not more like other dredge spots?

[Xitami]

So either this is by design or it's some players' idea of having a good time but I often find a dredge spot has a single crate in it, for chemical waste. Great, because 20 chemical waste really makes a dent in the 800 I need.

Yet, other dredge spots (often the metal/copper ones) will have multiple crates to dredge up, ranging from 3 to 6. Great, because now I actually have more of that than I actually need or want - but I still can't get my hands on chemical waste because...

1: most chemical waste dredge spots are perpetually empty because...
2: players on fast boats (T3+) tend to get there before anyone else does, unless you get lucky and you're near one when it respawns
3: a lot of players will attempt to ram/sink your ass when you got there just before they did because, well, they want it too
4: a lot of players will camp the crap out of a dredge spot and will get very... upset... and vocal... and otherwise annoyed when you "creep on their claim"

So. If chemical waste is super scarce by design, in which case I'd have to say that design decision needs to be sent through the shredder and whoever suggested it needs a session with the clue-by-four; if it's not by design, then there's a problem with crate spawning.

Either way, chemical waste is, at the moment, the most un-fun part of this game and the progression. I don't need to have everything all at once, but I would like to be able to make some progress in my tech tree and not feel like I need to grind grind grind to get there. I know, I know, Gaijin Incubator so probably Gaijin has "guided" you into how to make the game just grindy enough that people will (when that time comes, and I'm pretty sure it will, in the next few months) gladly pay for medallions to bypass the chemical waste grind.

So. There's a choice here, dear devs. Either sort out the scarcity of chemical waste (more crates per dredge spot would be a start), or you stand to lose a large portion of the playerbase you have left.

[VonWolfie]

Chemical waste is one of the easiest materials to get. It only costs 150k medallions for thousands of them. The ammo bits are the ones that need attention, probably by just adding those to the resource pack.

[Xitami]

Originally posted by VonWolfie:

Chemical waste is one of the easiest materials to get. It only costs 150k medallions for thousands of them. The ammo bits are the ones that need attention, probably by just adding those to the resource pack.

See, the thing is, some of us have jobs, and wives/girlfriends/partners/kids, and can't spend all day grinding medallions. Just saying...

[lnomsim]

Originally posted by Xitami:

Originally posted by VonWolfie:

Chemical waste is one of the easiest materials to get. It only costs 150k medallions for thousands of them. The ammo bits are the ones that need attention, probably by just adding those to the resource pack.

See, the thing is, some of us have jobs, and wives/girlfriends/partners/kids, and can't spend all day grinding medallions. Just saying...

you are playing an MMO. Games that are grindy by nature to keep their playerbase busy.
If you don't have time to grind, why do you play this game?

Having more crates wouldn't solve the issue. People would take all the crates.

[Deadly]

They will be Patching the medallions exploits from drops soon

[Xitami]

Originally posted by lnomsim:

Originally posted by Xitami:

See, the thing is, some of us have jobs, and wives/girlfriends/partners/kids, and can't spend all day grinding medallions. Just saying...

you are playing an MMO. Games that are grindy by nature to keep their playerbase busy.
If you don't have time to grind, why do you play this game?

That's... an astonishingly dumb question. Or attitude. Or whatever. I play this game because I want to? And I'd like to have a bit of fun, you know, like people do. There's plenty MMO's out there that *aren't* grindy, by the way. (Although seemingly everything Gaijin touches is grindy as ♥♥♥♥ but guess what you can bypass the grind with some real money).

There's a balance to grind too - right now? Age of Water is too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ grindy.

Having more crates wouldn't solve the issue. People would take all the crates.

Sure, but when you do manage to find a spot at least you have a shot at getting what you need in one sitting instead of having to take multiple days just to get enough together to research T2 batteries, for example...

[Neyreyan_Youtube]

Its not so bad but they should rebalance the dredge drops to include more chemical waste, it seems 1 out of 10 is chemical waste wich is the real problem.
It also depends on the time of the day, i mean don't dredge at peak hours, do questing

[VonWolfie]

Originally posted by Xitami:

See, the thing is, some of us have jobs, and wives/girlfriends/partners/kids, and can't spend all day grinding medallions. Just saying...

Definitely not an all day grind. Couple of Caravans and a few minutes sinking pirates is all it takes. Dredging on the other hand, is an all day affair since there is so much travel time and the dredge action itself isn't just a matter of smashing [E].

If I were unlucky enough to have wives/girlfriends/partners/kids, I would have them do the dredging for me while I went off into the kitchen to have a sandwich. And save the fun stuff for myself.

[Valhalla Awaits]

Originally posted by Xitami:

Originally posted by VonWolfie:

Chemical waste is one of the easiest materials to get. It only costs 150k medallions for thousands of them. The ammo bits are the ones that need attention, probably by just adding those to the resource pack.

See, the thing is, some of us have jobs, and wives/girlfriends/partners/kids, and can't spend all day grinding medallions. Just saying...

All day? Dude... I just farmed 300k medallion in an HOUR by killing the farming fleet in the west. There is also one to the far south, and the far east. Thats enough for 3k chemical waste right there.

[Xitami]

Originally posted by Valhalla Awaits:

Originally posted by Xitami:

See, the thing is, some of us have jobs, and wives/girlfriends/partners/kids, and can't spend all day grinding medallions. Just saying...

All day? Dude... I just farmed 300k medallion in an HOUR by killing the farming fleet in the west. There is also one to the far south, and the far east. Thats enough for 3k chemical waste right there.

Okay, and this can be done with a T2 boat? Right?

And I've never seen this farming fleet... where the heck is it :(

[Belinik]

Originally posted by VonWolfie:

Chemical waste is one of the easiest materials to get. It only costs 150k medallions for thousands of them. The ammo bits are the ones that need attention, probably by just adding those to the resource pack.

Yeah no , if you do find a good spot to "grind" medallions it will be with other people doing 0 work for it, then as the enemy gets close to dead they start plinking it and earning the kill with zero effort , calling it easy where you just have to plink as the last damage do get the kill-loot, they need to randomize the spawning spots for this and fix that the one doing most damage earns the loot

[lnomsim]

Originally posted by Xitami:

Originally posted by Valhalla Awaits:

All day? Dude... I just farmed 300k medallion in an HOUR by killing the farming fleet in the west. There is also one to the far south, and the far east. Thats enough for 3k chemical waste right there.

Okay, and this can be done with a T2 boat? Right?

And I've never seen this farming fleet... where the heck is it :(

A5 for the west, I20 for the south, and I don't remember for the East.
The East is hard, it's a fleet of small boats, but they have heavy grenade launchers, or alternatively, there is a fleet of hover boats, slightly north east of the mermaid. With good canons, you can wreck their engines.

I suggest you try to capture a walrus at least so you can tank some damage, walruses aren't hard to capture.

they are called dingy when they are controlled by NPC, there are plenty north of Three whales if you follow the northbound stream.

[leadinjection308]

Originally posted by Xitami:

Originally posted by VonWolfie:

Chemical waste is one of the easiest materials to get. It only costs 150k medallions for thousands of them. The ammo bits are the ones that need attention, probably by just adding those to the resource pack.

See, the thing is, some of us have jobs, and wives/girlfriends/partners/kids, and can't spend all day grinding medallions. Just saying...

Just run the caravans. They happen every hour or something just run around shooting people doesnt matter if you win or lose. If you team wins you get double the medallions if you lose then you just get whatever you earned. Just go for deck shots trying to disable guns, generators, etc they are worth the most medallions. You can easily get 40-50k in a run. im sure some guys with the higher tier boats can get way more than that.