witch nerf coming in next patch

[Todokoro]

well I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Arsonist build is no longer viable unless you already have full ascendancy and 500 spirit on standby. Time to look into a new class I guess. Thanks GGG - Really appreciate it.

[FhqwhTODD]

a 16 seconds dodge roll cooldown.

[ClAyMoRe*]

Opprinnelig skrevet av liberator65853:

I've played a witch minion build since release and have never touched the arsonist. I use fire spells myself since corpse spells aren't useful in boss battles and didn't see a point having minions with fire damage too. the frost mage and storm mage skeletons are good too.

Maybe if Witch skill tab would actually work properly in early to mid game, you would not feel need to play with fire spells,
Only build that I would consider minion build atm is arsonist, because it actually relays on minions.
It is like everyone an their mom calls every build minion build because witch has minions.
Use shield and fire spells and minions are there just to keep you company, MINION BUILD.

[liberator65853]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ClAyMoRe*:

Opprinnelig skrevet av liberator65853:

I've played a witch minion build since release and have never touched the arsonist. I use fire spells myself since corpse spells aren't useful in boss battles and didn't see a point having minions with fire damage too. the frost mage and storm mage skeletons are good too.

Maybe if Witch skill tab would actually work properly in early to mid game, you would not feel need to play with fire spells,
Only build that I would consider minion build atm is arsonist, because it actually relays on minions.
It is like everyone an their mom calls every build minion build because witch has minions.
Use shield and fire spells and minions are there just to keep you company, MINION BUILD.

No, I do use a minion build. The skills I use are Skeleton warrior, ice mage, storm mage, reavers, infernal hound from the infernalist ascendancy tree, fire ball, and raging spirits. Using one attack skill doesn't make it any less of a minion build. Almost all my gear has +spirit for more summons and my scepter has +3 to minion gem levels. For bosses I give the warriors infernal legion, minion instability, and meat shield support gems, disable raging spirits, and swap fireball for the flammability curse. then I turn off all minions and summon 16 skeleton warriors and they melt all bosses in less than 10 seconds. If that is not a minion build idk what is

[identity]

lol, I love it when I see people using some clearly broken or unbalanced build and then cry about quitting when it gets nerfed. I leveled minion just fine without stacking arsonists.

[ClAyMoRe*]

Opprinnelig skrevet av liberator65853:

Opprinnelig skrevet av ClAyMoRe*:

Maybe if Witch skill tab would actually work properly in early to mid game, you would not feel need to play with fire spells,
Only build that I would consider minion build atm is arsonist, because it actually relays on minions.
It is like everyone an their mom calls every build minion build because witch has minions.
Use shield and fire spells and minions are there just to keep you company, MINION BUILD.

No, I do use a minion build. The skills I use are Skeleton warrior, ice mage, storm mage, reavers, infernal hound from the infernalist ascendancy tree, fire ball, and raging spirits. Using one attack skill doesn't make it any less of a minion build. Almost all my gear has +spirit for more summons and my scepter has +3 to minion gem levels. For bosses I give the warriors infernal legion, minion instability, and meat shield support gems, disable raging spirits, and swap fireball for the flammability curse. then I turn off all minions and summon 16 skeleton warriors and they melt all bosses in less than 10 seconds. If that is not a minion build idk what is

Another infernalist talking about game balance, I can't, Infernalist was broken in release and it is still pretty strong from what I hear, idk what level you are now, judging by how you say your minions are strong I assume you are closing to endgame, because it is not the case in early to mid game.
I will never call that abomination minion build, in my opinion raging spirit should have never been classified as minion skill , your gear is there just to support that abomination of a skill. that is not even witch skill, but sorceress, It is not even a real summon, or anything, resembling minion skill.
I will repeat it once more, if witch skills were any good , you would not feel need to jump to sorceress skills.

[Panthaz89]

Opprinnelig skrevet av ClAyMoRe*:

Opprinnelig skrevet av liberator65853:

No, I do use a minion build. The skills I use are Skeleton warrior, ice mage, storm mage, reavers, infernal hound from the infernalist ascendancy tree, fire ball, and raging spirits. Using one attack skill doesn't make it any less of a minion build. Almost all my gear has +spirit for more summons and my scepter has +3 to minion gem levels. For bosses I give the warriors infernal legion, minion instability, and meat shield support gems, disable raging spirits, and swap fireball for the flammability curse. then I turn off all minions and summon 16 skeleton warriors and they melt all bosses in less than 10 seconds. If that is not a minion build idk what is

Another infernalist talking about game balance, I can't, Infernalist was broken in release and it is still pretty strong from what I hear, idk what level you are now, judging by how you say your minions are strong I assume you are closing to endgame, because it is not the case in early to mid game.
I will never call that abomination minion build, in my opinion raging spirit should have never been classified as minion skill , your gear is there just to support that abomination of a skill. that is not even witch skill, but sorceress, It is not even a real summon, or anything, resembling minion skill.
I will repeat it once more, if witch skills were any good , you would not feel need to jump to sorceress skills.

Raging flame spirits were literally minions in POE1 you really need to stop whining about it a lot of witches used it as a spell in poe1. The gemcutting is only recommendations the whole point was that you can mix and match everything you want and use whatever weapon you want on any character. Raging flame spirit passive is not really a sorceror skill its a recommended sorceror skill and the witch literally has an ascendancy called an inferenalist ffs.

[Psycha]

Opprinnelig skrevet av TyresTyco:

Yeah no longer viable by having 1-2 less arsonists .. rofl. Such a drama queen. I wont change anything with that build and I will be fine grinding t10+ maps. Dmg still will be absolutely fine.

This change may not affect late game players that are rich with spirit gear..

But this change heavily affects people's ability to clear campaign and cruel.

[FallenActual]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Todokoro:

well I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Arsonist build is no longer viable unless you already have full ascendancy and 500 spirit on standby. Time to look into a new class I guess. Thanks GGG - Really appreciate it.

I literally have 10 arsonists as of last night what are you on about

proof ---> https://ibb.co/1GRNKtQ

[liberator65853]

Opprinnelig skrevet av PsychaChi:

Opprinnelig skrevet av TyresTyco:

Yeah no longer viable by having 1-2 less arsonists .. rofl. Such a drama queen. I wont change anything with that build and I will be fine grinding t10+ maps. Dmg still will be absolutely fine.

This change may not affect late game players that are rich with spirit gear..

But this change heavily affects people's ability to clear campaign and cruel.

It won't, I am halfway through cruel never having even touched the arsonist. There are nodes in the tree that reduces reservation cost

[Psycha]

Opprinnelig skrevet av liberator65853:

Opprinnelig skrevet av PsychaChi:

This change may not affect late game players that are rich with spirit gear..

But this change heavily affects people's ability to clear campaign and cruel.

It won't, I am halfway through cruel never having even touched the arsonist. There are nodes in the tree that reduces reservation cost

We're talking about people who do have arsonists and are building it.

So good on you for using some other build.

[eastcow91]

Opprinnelig skrevet av FallenActual:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Todokoro:

well I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Arsonist build is no longer viable unless you already have full ascendancy and 500 spirit on standby. Time to look into a new class I guess. Thanks GGG - Really appreciate it.

I literally have 10 arsonists as of last night what are you on about

proof ---> https://ibb.co/1GRNKtQ

he's just baiting. anything we can just swap to sniper. nothing much changes for witch.

[liberator65853]

Opprinnelig skrevet av PsychaChi:

Opprinnelig skrevet av liberator65853:

It won't, I am halfway through cruel never having even touched the arsonist. There are nodes in the tree that reduces reservation cost

We're talking about people who do have arsonists and are building it.

So good on you for using some other build.

Even if you are using arsonist they use the same reservation as the frost and lightning skeleton mages. They apparently do more damage too, so not seeing the issue as I can have 4 of both of the mages out at once, plus 2 warriors and 3 reavers. only level 56 and have only spent 1 exalted orb on a scepter with +20 spirit and +3 minion skill levels.