Confused with Support Gem cutting and use

[Ghostlight]

I cut my first Support gem for Wall of Fire: I was given the choice of 3 and I chose 25% cast speed.

Later was using Chaos Bolt and on a whim switched the Cast Speed gem to that skill instead. I found I could swap that gem into any of the skills I had.

But many of those skills did not offer me the choice of Cast Speed when I was cutting other Skill gems, I had to make it via Wall of Fire.

So why is there only a choice of 3 support gems per skill when you are cutting the gem, yet you can freely swap cut gems into other skills? Confusing.

[Ashtrails]

navigate through the menu (bumbers or whatever the keyboard key is) - at some point a catalogue of all stat based gems will appear, including the recommended ones for your actual skills along plenty of others.

[ChuTheMan]

the support gems listed under each spells are just "recommended"

a lot of the support gems can be used for a lot of other skills too.

[Overeagerdragon]

Here's where I blame a bit of UI design...

at the very bottom of that main window it displays "Show SUGGESTIONS" and on the bar where you select the skill to cut the gem for, at the bottom, is ALL GEMS... clicking on either and the world will open up for you

The game is offering you suggestions (mainly because those are the entrylevel boosters you might want as a new player) but people who have a bit more knowledge might want to pick a different gem because of some interaction with their other skills... the game can't account for that as it would mean you get millions of "if", "Then" options


But in a sense I don't blame GGG either for doing so...

With how many "this game is impossible, bosses are too hard" threads, as a dev, would you really not make the suggestions ticked by default and have new players be able to put hourglass (+40% damage, 10 second CD) on their signiature skills... could you imagine how many more "firing speed is so slow" threads we would get ?

[Ghostlight]

So if I enable that, could it let me accidentally cut a support gem that I cannot use for the skill I was going to add a gem to??

[ChuTheMan]

Originally posted by Ghostlight:

So if I enable that, could it let me accidentally cut a support gem that I cannot use for the skill I was going to add a gem to??

no, it will only show the gems that can be used for that skill.

having recommened on just shows what the game recommends (which sometimes is not even the best ones to use)

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by Ghostlight:

So if I enable that, could it let me accidentally cut a support gem that I cannot use for the skill I was going to add a gem to??

If you go to the ALL GEMS tab; then yes... if you untick the "show suggestions" then no

This is what I meant with the millions upon millions of combinations... I have Scattershot+Chain on my essence drain for example... neither of them are advised by the game and they don't directly increase essence drain's dps output... but I'm not using it for that; I use it as another dot for my contagion to spread and to detonate the impending doom augment on my frailty curse as doing so turns that curse into a virulent plague that caused whole mobpacks to explode in glorious Chaos-DoT agony

[Ghostlight]

Thanks to all of you, this is great news.

[Polymath]

Ui issue for sure, they should just have the recommended ones in a static box at the top, and then show the rest underneath.. no checkbox.