This is a GAMBLING RPG - Not an aRPG

[UnknownOne]

The loot system in this game could be good, but it's not. Of the 100 or so Exalted Orbs I've applied, I'd wager that 90/100 ruined the item. What I mean, is that it added something like 1.5 Health regen or 1-4 thorns. When I go to remove these, it removes a stat I want.

This was an issue in POE1 as well. So, I doubt I will ever return. I played POE1 for about 100 hours too and came to the same realization. You will spend hundreds of hours farming, and 90% of the time, you will get nothing useful. The Unique items are like 99% utter garbage too. It feels like most of them are place holders. Edit: My guess is that uniques will roll out when they add currency that lets you gamble the stats on them as well.

Boss battles are too challenging for the practically ZERO rewards you get. They simply dont drop anything useful with any regularity. So, it just feels punishing to fight them. Why spend all that time fighting when the likelihood of a drop is close to zero? Then, if you get something cool, you are 99% likely to brick the item and make it useless. I mean, who thought this was good design? It sucks.

Anyway, if the devs are reading, you need to increase drop rates probably 10 fold. The vast majority of decent items that drop are ruined anyway. So, as the game stands, it's a dead end for me.

I would highly recommend waiting to try this game until its F2P. I'd like my 30 dollars back.

Of my 90 hours, I'd say I enjoyed maybe 10 of those hours. Edit: I was committed to beating the story which took me about 70 hours on my warrior. Then, when I got to the end game, I spent 20 hours without a single upgrade smashing my head against the wall as my exalt gambling rolls ruined every single decent item I found.

Good luck all.

Edit:

Adding an example of the gambling system in POE. So, you RNG item drops by killing mobs. That is basically the cut/dry aRPG formula. Where it differs is that in POE you have to enhance ALL the items you find with a gambling system. That's where the POE currency comes in. The currency is PURE gambling. The entire item system is built off this, and that's why the game isn't fun - unless you are a gambling addict.

[Matt Murdock]

They already say they will increase drops in next patch...also u can gamble for items at vendors and each lvl up u have reroll of items at vendors in all towns. Wich means every lvl up u can go to vendors and try your luck to find good item. You can also salvage everything with socket holes and items with +% of quality wich will give u upgrading stones.

[DrDeath]

I am leaving because of the Act 1 boss, unbalanced and unfair on how difficult it is.

[Incunabulum]

Yes. That is going to happen.

Item quality is important - until you get to higher levels and see higher IQ drops its going to keep happening.

As item level increases, the worst attributes are dropped from the roll lists and rolled stats are higher.

[moody]

Crafting is a joke. Don't hit what you need? Scrap the Item. Waste your Currency. Repeat. RNG trash system that we should be moving away from after all these years.

[UnknownOne]

Originally posted by Knight Without Sword:

They already say they will increase drops in next patch...also u can gamble for items at vendors and each lvl up u have reroll of items at vendors in all towns. Wich means every lvl up u can go to vendors and try your luck to find good item. You can also salvage everything with socket holes and items with +% of quality wich will give u upgrading stones.

I know. I got to the end game on my warrior. All the drops were for every other class other than my own. Even with like 70% defense, 75% block, and max resist he still gets one shot by unknown mechanics. I constantly was gambling and the good items, late game, are pretty much 1/100 gambles.

They've designed the game to be a slot machine. And I think that's POE1/2's greatest weakness. It simply prays on people with gambling addiciton.

I'm not spending 100 hours to find 5 useful items. Forget that.

I really like a lot of what they've done, but it feels like the game is built for gambling addicts and no one else. So, I doubt I will ever play this again.

[Panic]

Casino , your the slot machine

[thestile]

The lottery of affix chasing is very annoying. I know it comes with the genre, but it's still annoying. Lol

[UnknownOne]

Originally posted by Incunabulum:

Yes. That is going to happen.

Item quality is important - until you get to higher levels and see higher IQ drops its going to keep happening.

As item level increases, the worst attributes are dropped from the roll lists and rolled stats are higher.

I'm in the 70s at end game. I'm not spending 100 hours more to get nothing useful and struggle the whole time. Feels like whoever designed the item system needs to be replaced. The game is built around gambling. I'd even go as far as to say they should outlaw this type of gameplay because it's likely very dangerous for many people.

[Rikkore]

they already fixed the boss loot tho. I killed the act 1 end boss and he dropped like 3 rares

[Flushing]

Unfortunately for us you're actually not leaving.

Please stick to your commitment.

[magnumaniac]

Don't gamble with Exalts - use them for trade. With 100 Exalts you could easily have kitted out any character with good items.

But yeah, chaos orbs are a complete wast of time and need to be changed.

[UnknownOne]

Originally posted by thestile:

The lottery of affix chasing is very annoying. I know it comes with the genre, but it's still annoying. Lol

This wasn't an issue in Diablo 2. Diablo 2 is still WAY better than POE1 or 2 will ever be (to me), simply because it had less gambling involved. Certainly it took a lot of farming for some items, and there were a few gambling scenarios, but ultimately getting the good items was approachable and felt good.

In this game, getting good items is a nightmare. It's just not fun to farm. The people who like this game have biological gambling tendencies. That's it. This game was designed around gambling addiciton.

If you enjoy this game, stay FAR away from casinos in real life.

[UnknownOne]

Originally posted by Flushing:

Unfortunately for us you're actually not leaving.

Please stick to your commitment.

No, I've uninstalled and will never play again. This game is not fun to play unless you enjoy gambling. I'd rather have a clear path to end game, with clear loot to farm. I want my experience to end after I build a strong character.

In this game, you have to play forever and chase meaningless stats rather than neat items and neat builds. This is likely one of the worst ARPGs ever made. This is a Gambling RPG not an action rpg.

[Flushing]

Originally posted by UnknownOne:

Originally posted by Flushing:

Unfortunately for us you're actually not leaving.

Please stick to your commitment.

No, I've uninstalled and will never play again.

That's great, so when you're done getting negative attention on this thread you're gone?

[underd0g]

I picked up an item, slammed it with transmution and augmentation, slammed it with regal, slammed it with 3 exalted and got exactly what I wanted. The result: something I would have vendor trashed in PoE1 if I had it identified. In this game though: it'll have to do.

Maybe this is the developers vision, that we all run around in vendor trash and feel good about it. You will own ♥♥♥♥ items, and you will be happy.