What are people mad about?

[MR.POTATO]

Is this their issue?
"Rain of Arrows and Firestorm now have a hit-rate limit to prevent cases of them absolutely obliterating very large bosses. This will have little to no impact outside of boss fights with very large hitboxes."

Because that seems like a very valid change lol. If this genuinely is the issue why are people saying "nerfed into the ground"? Like is this build specially made to fight large bosses and sucks at everything else so this one nerf completely ruined it?

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your first trial is 1 floor and this is based on sanctum (a mechanic very similar in poe1 but your ascendancy isn't gated behind it, it's optional and is basically just a money printing mechanic), #2 you have to do the 4 wave ultimatum and for your 3rd you have to do 3 floors of the sekhema trial, or "sanctum" as most poe1 players will call it.
trust me when you do the 3 floor trial, you will not like it.
maintaining honour for 1 floor is fine, easy even, but 2, 3 floors, with afflictions stacking against you, it just gets ridiculous.

The only other trials I've done are the chaos ones in the Chimeral Wetlands, so I assume I'm not far enough for the other ones that use honor that you're talking about. I just hit act 1 on cruel.

yeah, i think i dropped my first 3 floor trial for the 3rd ascendancy in my first few maps after beating campaign, tried it, failed because the 3rd floor boss is ridiculous and melted through 3k honour in like 10 seconds, never bothered again
good luck if you persevere that far, i tapped out at lvl 78, still rocking 2 ascendancy points lmfao

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

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i happily would, but unfortunately the current poe1 league has been going for about 4 months now, and the new one got delayed by at least 2 more, specifically so people like you could have your walking simulator you're enjoying so much, good for you mate, happy for ya.

it becomes a walking simulator already with crosbow shotgun build at lvl 5 . there is no way developers can balance this haha . i dont need dodge anymore . perhaps i should swith to hardcore

Level 5 is supposed to be a cakewalk.

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

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The only other trials I've done are the chaos ones in the Chimeral Wetlands, so I assume I'm not far enough for the other ones that use honor that you're talking about. I just hit act 1 on cruel.

yeah, i think i dropped my first 3 floor trial for the 3rd ascendancy in my first few maps after beating campaign, tried it, failed because the 3rd floor boss is ridiculous and melted through 3k honour in like 10 seconds, never bothered again
good luck if you persevere that far, i tapped out at lvl 78, still rocking 2 ascendancy points lmfao

What was your resistances? Using Energy shield mostly or HP?

[VoiD]

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'Cast on--' gems were also nerfed to the ground. And by nerfed, from what I heard, it's straight up buried and made useless. Which is a very weird way to nerf it.

I just equiped a cast on ignite fireblast build and it's using spells rather often, there's nothing broken, they just fixed one of many exploits they'll fix in the future.

If anyone have made an entire build revolving around an exploit first week into early access it's on them.

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yeah, i think i dropped my first 3 floor trial for the 3rd ascendancy in my first few maps after beating campaign, tried it, failed because the 3rd floor boss is ridiculous and melted through 3k honour in like 10 seconds, never bothered again
good luck if you persevere that far, i tapped out at lvl 78, still rocking 2 ascendancy points lmfao

What was your resistances? Using Energy shield mostly or HP?

i think i had like 1.7k hp, main issue was definitely the fact i got poison dotted and i had 13% chaos res at the time, managed to get better gear further into maps and got that to around 40% but i just don't care to try again because i already farmed sanctum a few hundred times in the recent poe1 league on a personal mission to find a mirror (mission failed so i just have sanctum ptsd now)

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

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What was your resistances? Using Energy shield mostly or HP?

i think i had like 1.7k hp, main issue was definitely the fact i got poison dotted and i had 13% chaos res at the time, managed to get better gear further into maps and got that to around 40% but i just don't care to try again because i already farmed sanctum a few hundred times in the recent poe1 league on a personal mission to find a mirror (mission failed so i just have sanctum ptsd now)

Ahh.. poison prolly did it yeah.. ok. good to know. I'll have to bring a poison charm when I try I think.

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i think i had like 1.7k hp, main issue was definitely the fact i got poison dotted and i had 13% chaos res at the time, managed to get better gear further into maps and got that to around 40% but i just don't care to try again because i already farmed sanctum a few hundred times in the recent poe1 league on a personal mission to find a mirror (mission failed so i just have sanctum ptsd now)

Ahh.. poison prolly did it yeah.. ok. good to know. I'll have to bring a poison charm when I try I think.

gl, just a warning if you played poe1, floor 3 boss is shakiri, the scorpion boss from act 4/9, does the same thing being invulnerable dive bombing in and out of the ground around you, slams and poison trap pressure plates on the ground in the arena as a bonus
almost feels like the only way to do it without getting your honour melted is to just have some cheesy broken build, walk in and one shot her

[MR.POTATO]

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You kill plenty of packs of monsters, even in walking simulator.

Not sure what you're complaining about. List most, seems to be about nothing meaningful.

crafting is dead (slamming orbs on items and praying for good rolls is not crafting, it's gambling).
most uniques (even the super rare chase ones) are garbage.
massive zones, far bigger than poe1 and no movement abilities - great combo.
chaos resistance made even more arbitrarily rare and annoying to obtain than poe1 (this is one of my few complaints with poe1 tbh)
ascendancy trials are utter garbage, you know it's bad when people from poe1 that HATED lab are begging for it to just be brought back in place of the forced sanctum/ultimatum
continued obsession with on death explosion effects (pretty much the only thing that killed me in maps)
and plenty more, overall just absolutely nothing learned from poe1 and what made it a great game, sad.

as a non-poe1 player I think most of your concerns and complains only apply to poe1 compared to poe2 which is valid i guess but this community doesnt really care about that. Im willing to bet you anything with the current amount of players at least half of them, if not near half, have not played poe1. I mean yeah for someone like you your standards are high, but for me, mine arent high so im enjoying and loving the game. I cant argue on some of your points but I can say that youre being pretty harsh for a game in early access. Also your concerns are all game play side which imo are an easy fix given they (the devs) want to fix it. Im giving the game props for what it is not what its compared to, go back to poe1 and get out of the forums if this is how you feel

(in all reality I say this but most of your points are super valid and plain to see like;
honor system, map size, movement abilities, crafting, its all pretty valid but again from my pov its not bad but from yours its a fraction of what it should be that makes sense)

[axel8000]

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'Cast on--' gems were also nerfed to the ground. And by nerfed, from what I heard, it's straight up buried and made useless. Which is a very weird way to nerf it.

This is not true. I still use cast on shock and it works great for bosses, it's just not super OP.

[End of Days]

POE 2 starts really good and decends in to a total rage inducing dumpster fire they clear want a smaller player base than POE1

[MR.POTATO]

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POE 2 starts really good and decends in to a total rage inducing dumpster fire they clear want a smaller player base than POE1

see you say that but 500k players speaks for its self and i gaurentee you many of those are end game at this point

[mondomau]

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You kill plenty of packs of monsters, even in walking simulator.

Not sure what you're complaining about. List most, seems to be about nothing meaningful.

crafting is dead (slamming orbs on items and praying for good rolls is not crafting, it's gambling).
most uniques (even the super rare chase ones) are garbage.
massive zones, far bigger than poe1 and no movement abilities - great combo.
chaos resistance made even more arbitrarily rare and annoying to obtain than poe1 (this is one of my few complaints with poe1 tbh)
ascendancy trials are utter garbage, you know it's bad when people from poe1 that HATED lab are begging for it to just be brought back in place of the forced sanctum/ultimatum
continued obsession with on death explosion effects (pretty much the only thing that killed me in maps)
and plenty more, overall just absolutely nothing learned from poe1 and what made it a great game, sad.

Pretty much every criticism in this list is actually just you pissing and moaning about a deliberate design choice you don't like. The devs decided to go in a different direction instead of a carbon copy of the 1st one, which is how great sequels are made. 'Fans' like you are what kill franchises by throwing a screaming fit if they change anything and then wondering why nobody is interested in the 1000000th iteration of the exact same game....

[MR.POTATO]

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crafting is dead (slamming orbs on items and praying for good rolls is not crafting, it's gambling).
most uniques (even the super rare chase ones) are garbage.
massive zones, far bigger than poe1 and no movement abilities - great combo.
chaos resistance made even more arbitrarily rare and annoying to obtain than poe1 (this is one of my few complaints with poe1 tbh)
ascendancy trials are utter garbage, you know it's bad when people from poe1 that HATED lab are begging for it to just be brought back in place of the forced sanctum/ultimatum
continued obsession with on death explosion effects (pretty much the only thing that killed me in maps)
and plenty more, overall just absolutely nothing learned from poe1 and what made it a great game, sad.

Pretty much every criticism in this list is actually just you pissing and moaning about a deliberate design choice you don't like. The devs decided to go in a different direction instead of a carbon copy of the 1st one, which is how great sequels are made. 'Fans' like you are what kill franchises by throwing a screaming fit if they change anything and then wondering why nobody is interested in the 1000000th iteration of the exact same game....

its more quality of life and the crafting system could be more indepth I dont agree with all their points but they got some pretty decent ones

[Syzygy]

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You kill plenty of packs of monsters, even in walking simulator.

Not sure what you're complaining about. List most, seems to be about nothing meaningful.

crafting is dead (slamming orbs on items and praying for good rolls is not crafting, it's gambling).
most uniques (even the super rare chase ones) are garbage.
massive zones, far bigger than poe1 and no movement abilities - great combo.
chaos resistance made even more arbitrarily rare and annoying to obtain than poe1 (this is one of my few complaints with poe1 tbh)
ascendancy trials are utter garbage, you know it's bad when people from poe1 that HATED lab are begging for it to just be brought back in place of the forced sanctum/ultimatum
continued obsession with on death explosion effects (pretty much the only thing that killed me in maps)
and plenty more, overall just absolutely nothing learned from poe1 and what made it a great game, sad.

Feel the chaos res woes and the on death effects. Likely to me some of these things will improve... Maybe. I'm actually surprised by the sanctum hate, I unironically loved sanctum and I always hear about other people loving it too 😭

I will say it's pretty nuts how it's in the game as a trial now without anything to make it less slanted in favor / against certain builds, though. At the same time I think it's very likely to be changed in that regard if there's enough feedback.

[UnknownOne]

Most people are finally realizing that this is a gambling simulator. It took some time, but that's the real underlying issue. This is only for people who like gambling and get addicted to gambling. Everyone else will basically stop after they clear the 1st 3 acts.