Endgame Maps are Annoying and Not Enjoyable.

[Bagnana]

I've loved the game up until this point but now I am in endgame. I would love to engage with the endgame mechanics, specifically bossing, but the system is very annoying. If you die on an endgame map then the special node, such as a boss node, is removed.

This is a big issue because;
1: The maps are very big.
2: The mobs deal huge amounts of damage and it can be easy to die when you get stun locked by the .25 second flinch animation on some hits.
3: The exalted orbs, the biggest crafting orb next to regal, is very rare. This effectively means to get power upgrades I've been relying on gambling which is very expensive and tedious to farm for(my last chest upgrade cost about 130k gold). Monsters do more and more damage but I end up feeling less powerful in comparison.

I love the difficulty of this game the bosses are superb but the punishment on the endgame maps is too severe especially for the content I enjoy, the bosses. Even if I didn't die and I could easily clear the maps I still have an issue, boss nodes. Other endgame content types drop items you can use to spawn more of that type of content but bosses have no such item. I'm stuck with playing long maps 90% of the time just to get to the fun.

Please, I would love endgame content more focused on bossing in the future.

[VVaЯF0xу]

I agree that engame sucks. For me, biggest problem is that combination of oneshots and whole waystone mechanic. Its just fells so ♥♥♥♥♥♥, that you spent 20 mins clearing map, only to get one tapped and lose all your progress.

Also, i dont think engame is difficult. Just as trials BS, its just filled with artificial punishments and extortion crap. It's not hard, it's just annoying.

[we_are_ven0m]

Agreed. Losing the waystone and the node's specials, plus an XP penalty, is way too punishing at endgame given how easy it is to die there. This and respec costs are probably the biggest points of contention right now.

[Arise Chicken]

spec into chaos resist, its actually such a huge deal in maps.

[$ ⁨⁧ Xyz]

Originally posted by Arise Chicken:

spec into chaos resist, its actually such a huge deal in maps.

chaos resist is one thing, but where do i spec into walking simulator resist?

[donut32]

Originally posted by VVaЯF0xу:

I agree that engame sucks. For me, biggest problem is that combination of oneshots and whole waystone mechanic. Its just fells so ♥♥♥♥♥♥, that you spent 20 mins clearing map, only to get one tapped and lose all your progress.

Also, i dont think engame is difficult. Just as trials BS, its just filled with artificial punishments and extortion crap. It's not hard, it's just annoying.

100% accurate. joe gamer isnt going to put up with garbage where you spend an hour on something, get globalled randomly, and lose all progress. totally unfun garbage,

[Arise Chicken]

Originally posted by $ ⁨⁧ Xyz:

Originally posted by Arise Chicken:

spec into chaos resist, its actually such a huge deal in maps.

chaos resist is one thing, but where do i spec into walking simulator resist?

do you not use any move speed modifiers?

[Beefcakes]

I was just telling my friend earlier that the watch tower thing is neat but man am I not looking forward to grinding those.

[FallenActual]

I 100% agree!

[A]

The sad part is, the devs and players think that "More Damage and HP = Harder", but its just the laziest way possible to make things more difficult in games. Honestly surprised that people say GGG is a great developer. I think they are just better than Blizzard but that doesn't make them great. People just dont know it better.

[Bagnana]

Originally posted by Arise Chicken:

Originally posted by $ ⁨⁧ Xyz:

chaos resist is one thing, but where do i spec into walking simulator resist?

do you not use any move speed modifiers?

Even with 20% movespeed on my boots it still takes a while. Don't get me wrong, it helps and is great but I'd really love to be able to zoom around the maps if they're going to be this big.

[$ ⁨⁧ Xyz]

Originally posted by Arise Chicken:

Originally posted by $ ⁨⁧ Xyz:

chaos resist is one thing, but where do i spec into walking simulator resist?

do you not use any move speed modifiers?

literally playing a deadeye (perma 10 stack tailwind) and refused to use boots from like act 2 and on that didn't have a minimum of 20% movespeed on them, still felt like a snail trudging through quicksand the whole way, and it only got worse at maps.

[Bagnana]

Originally posted by VVaЯF0xу:

I agree that engame sucks. For me, biggest problem is that combination of oneshots and whole waystone mechanic. Its just fells so ♥♥♥♥♥♥, that you spent 20 mins clearing map, only to get one tapped and lose all your progress.

Also, i dont think engame is difficult. Just as trials BS, its just filled with artificial punishments and extortion crap. It's not hard, it's just annoying.

I second this. Difficulty is one thing, tedium is another. I don't feel like I'm being challenged I feel like my time is being wasted.

[AirSniffer]

The endgame currently suffers from major problems in many areas. Good thing more people will soon come to that realisation and it's EA so I trust GGG to create the best arpg ever over time.

[Arise Chicken]

Originally posted by Xaro:

The endgame currently suffers from major problems in many areas. Good thing more people will soon come to that realisation and it's EA so I trust GGG to create the best arpg ever over time.

even if this wasnt EA and it was the full release with a league mechanic id still have faith in them having it resolved in a reasonable time.

[Rikkore]

Some of the maps are definitely more atrocious than others. But the one shots doesn't really get to show till like t12+ at least if you've paid attention to your defenses.

The mob hp also doesn't scale as much compared to their hp si you feel like you're cruising until you do get hit by something random that just takes a chunk of you. It's also dumb that you get 2 res penalties mapping