Remove Death Penalty

[Happy]

Remove Ascendancy trials or balance them.

Simple as that, or play your game yourself with a handful of elitist jerks.
I just noticed the death penalty, I thought poe2 didn't have that bs scam.
its a BIG ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NO!
I'm done with that ♥♥♥♥ in poe1 long time ago, I won't have it again.
You can mute me, you can ban me, I don't care after this point.
I won't play this game again or its leagues with a death penalty anyway.
Its no fun, adds nothing to my experiene or my life, only triggers my psycological defetcs and keeps me under extreme stress for long periods.
There is no point in playing a game that is supposed to be fun if it pushes my pulse above 140+ and interrupts my breathing, giving me living horrors while my eyes are open.

I should've stayed away after refund but I trusted GGG and gave it another chance, and they blow it hard. I was ok with everything, I kept going even through game crushes every hour or so, but death penalty won't pass even if i live 10.000 years and there r no games left to play.

[vikey]

Messaggio originale di Txupport:

Hasn't stopped you from currently still playing 18 hours after this post.

the answer youve been given from OP would be the same from me. im 90 hours in and me and my friends criticize the game without a break- still were playing cause we have fun together talking, sometimes raging or achieving something etc. still this game is full of flaws and just because i play it doesnt mean i dont have a right to criticize it.

[Lana_Ray]

Messaggio originale di hypersot:

Messaggio originale di ZTempest:

Odd. I did not even know that a death penalty existed! I have died.....LOTS....and never notices, and my character is still advancing levels. If I did not notice it before, being aware of it now does not change the fact that this game rocks.

I don't think you are talking about the same thing the OP is talking about.

There is no death penalty, at least in early levels, that I know of.

Can someone explain where does that death penalty starts to be effective? Is it in end game only?

The 10% xp loss doesn't start until roughly level 70 as far as I'm aware (based on Kripps video)
At that point in the game losing 10% is a big deal and frankly is a waste of players time. If there's one thing people hate its having their time wasted. Everything can be fine one minute and then you get clipped by a 1 shot from off screen that you never saw coming because you can't zoom out far enough to see properly. Sometimes ♥♥♥♥ just happens and forced xp loss isn't difficulty. It is entirely artificial. The same can be said about the game taking away 60% of your resistances for no real reason. Other than "Well, Diablo did it we can as well"

[Lana_Ray]

Messaggio originale di vikey:

im 90 hours in and me and my friends criticize the game without a break- still were playing cause we have fun together talking, sometimes raging or achieving something etc. still this game is full of flaws and just because i play it doesnt mean i dont have a right to criticize it.

^ It's a love-hate relationship. Always remember complaints don't instantly mean game trash. You can easily complain about something you enjoy playing because you're able to recognise the problems it has and hope it will be changed.

[il Tuo migliore Amico]

I didn't even realize there was a death penalty lmao, Thanks for the post

[Zeforas]

I loved poe 1 and i'm loving poe 2

But i hate the exp penalty in both. And people saying " we need a hard game for once! "
It's a game where you can get one-shot easily. That's not 'hard'. At all.

In this game, however, it's so much worse. I barely die, but the waystone are so ridiculously rare for some reason, that i went from tier 13 to tier 10 today.
I gained negative progression... even when all my map are yellow and i have 16 atlas point purely focusing on dropping more of that ♥♥♥♥.

[Happy]

Messaggio originale di Lana_Ray:

^ It's a love-hate relationship. Always remember complaints don't instantly mean game trash. You can easily complain about something you enjoy playing because you're able to recognise the problems it has and hope it will be changed.

Yes, I liked most of the game and recommended it, I just can't play with this system present. Its not my idea or my choice, It just threatens my health, and i want to play it to spend time with my friends.

At least bring it to a logical level where you don't get thrown 5 hours back everytime you die.

[Ghostlight]

Messaggio originale di Happy:

Messaggio originale di Subset6:

Death penalty? Is this something specific to the trials? I've died many times fighting boss's and never had a death penalty. What does it do?

You lose %10 experience every time you die. It doesn't matter where or how you die, you can do a map in 20 minutes, earn %0.1 experience and if you die you'll lose %10 experience.

You got to be kidding? I thought we left that poor design crap behind years ago with PoE1. Hmmm. I will think twice now about playing.

[Xariann]

OP if you get affected this much by any game, I do think you need to pick one that doesn't.

[Zeforas]

Messaggio originale di Ghostlight:

Messaggio originale di Happy:

You lose %10 experience every time you die. It doesn't matter where or how you die, you can do a map in 20 minutes, earn %0.1 experience and if you die you'll lose %10 experience.

You got to be kidding? I thought we left that poor design crap behind years ago with PoE1. Hmmm. I will think twice now about playing.

Just for info, this penalty 'only' start when you reach endgame. ( or reach lvl 70, one of the 2. )

You won't lose exp as long as you're doing the campaign.

[Ghostlight]

Messaggio originale di Lana_Ray:

The 10% xp loss doesn't start until roughly level 70 as far as I'm aware (based on Kripps video)
At that point in the game losing 10% is a big deal and frankly is a waste of players time. If there's one thing people hate its having their time wasted. Everything can be fine one minute and then you get clipped by a 1 shot from off screen that you never saw coming because you can't zoom out far enough to see properly. Sometimes ♥♥♥♥ just happens and forced xp loss isn't difficulty. It is entirely artificial. The same can be said about the game taking away 50% of your resistances for no real reason. Other than "Well, Diablo did it we can as well"

Not sure if it's the same nonsense as PoE1 where level ~83 was the halfway point (experience wise) to 100. But in that game when you were very high level, like 90+, a single death wiped out several days' worth of play. If they are still disrespecting people's time that blatantly in this game, I won't be playing it long-term.

[Lana_Ray]

Messaggio originale di Ghostlight:

Not sure if it's the same nonsense as PoE1 where level ~83 was the halfway point (experience wise) to 100. But in that game when you were very high level, like 90+, a single death wiped out several days' worth of play. If they are still disrespecting people's time that blatantly in this game, I won't be playing it long-term.

I am currently not sure, I'm lvl 65 right now, trying to get through the rest of ACT 3 cruel mode. Then I'm off to maps. Back in PoE 1 I had a lvl 97 ranger and death then was a complete waste of time. Easily going back hours upon hours of progress. It isn't difficulty it's punishing.

[JimDFTW]

Messaggio originale di Knight:

Forget it. People are leaving.

in droves.

[Nightsbane]

Agreed having an XP penalty is just a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ system especially for a game with one shots . It's just a disrespectful waste of a player's time. Hardcore exists for a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason if people want to be masochists.

[Kao]

I think losing the map on a chaos trash mob is penalty enough.

[Stall]

Messaggio originale di Zeforas:

Messaggio originale di Ghostlight:

You got to be kidding? I thought we left that poor design crap behind years ago with PoE1. Hmmm. I will think twice now about playing.

Just for info, this penalty 'only' start when you reach endgame. ( or reach lvl 70, one of the 2. )

You won't lose exp as long as you're doing the campaign.

Thats still ♥♥♥♥♥♥...