GGG tolerates inhuman, criminally relevant behaviour in German global chat also in PoE2

[apachex]

Is a report just as useless here as in PoE1? Why nobody cares? Blocking invividual people cannot be the answer for obvious reasons. Its still a shame! GGG take responsibility and moderate!

[Aendieh]

Nguyên văn bởi Nova:

Nguyên văn bởi apachex:

is the chat provider and offers this public chat. GGG is legally obliged to take appropriate measures to prevent such behaviour upon becoming aware of it.

German law is a joke, its an authoritarian state that should be dealt with on the global stage. Anyone who wants to enforce it on other people are pathetic losers. Imagine being from a country that lets child rapists go and locks up the woman who calls them pigs. Get better ethics, you're a loser and germany should have been dealt with after the war.

lol, how about you get your facts straight? All you do here is defamation, you have no ide
about the country, being from Australia certainly doesn't help your case. The English news-outlets completely twisted around what actually happened. If you are only able to read headlines, that's your fault.

The perpetrators were sentenced to probation, because they were all underaged when the incident occurred, except for one who got 2,5 years - because he was trialed as an adult.

The woman got sentenced to "arrest" which basically means you will spend nights in a prison (a weekend friday-sunday), 35€ fine and that's it. No probation. Yes technically she got sentenced longer, 0 days vs 2 DAYS.

While the sentencing for r*pe-offenders is a completely different problem in Germany, Accusation and factual evidence another. Different sentencing not too long ago: First time offender, r*pe got 6 years, because he admitted it. If it's factual and he would have denied it it would have been 10 years.

Before having an opinion about something, get your facts straight, this is just absolutely wrong and far from any fact.

[Swan]

Get some balls and hide the global chat in 1 click.

[Swan]

Nguyên văn bởi Captain Worthy:

GGG does not tolerate any criminal use of chat and bans players even just for ToS violations as that is their right.

There's a difference between tolerating and not being able to moderate 100% of the chat 100% of the time.

In German language.

[aRkedos]

Nguyên văn bởi Nova:

Nguyên văn bởi aRkedos:

What ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, should take a break from telegram channels

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/woman-jailed-for-insulting-gang-rapist/news-story/e07e47bdc9869fe517c70ac900bddf7b

did no say that did not happen, but calling people names and stuff like that is something you can get convicted for. It is not like she just called them "pigs". even if the person you are insulting is a convicted rapist.

So in this case the rapists did get convicted (although an parole) and you can debate if the punishment is enough.
The women got convicted and btw: she does not have to go to jail that is just not the case. She got an arrest for 48 hours. And rightfully so.

That is far from an authoritarian state. Oh and btw isn't Australia THE number one law and order state? To me that sounds far more authoritarian (although I would not say Australia is an authoritarian state).


You see that is the problem right there: if laws would be made like people like that women would want them to be the main goal of the justice system would be vengeance. Where is the justice in that? I think society already moved past that, although there are a lot of people that would want it that way.

[Tachyon]

Nguyên văn bởi RawMeatDiet:

Oh yeah, I just searched it up and Germany is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for real:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Enforcement_Act

Basically it's illegal to post online content that disagrees with government narrative.

No change there then!

[barneytheknight]

oh no you got offended by someone what horror and instead of moving on and ignoring it you went to cry to forum that will make fun of you :D

[Pixel]

I just got tired of reading all the chat or seeing it so I turned it off.

[Fraktal]

Nguyên văn bởi aRkedos:

Nguyên văn bởi Nova:

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/woman-jailed-for-insulting-gang-rapist/news-story/e07e47bdc9869fe517c70ac900bddf7b

did no say that did not happen, but calling people names and stuff like that is something you can get convicted for. It is not like she just called them "pigs". even if the person you are insulting is a convicted rapist.

So in this case the rapists did get convicted (although an parole) and you can debate if the punishment is enough.
The women got convicted and btw: she does not have to go to jail that is just not the case. She got an arrest for 48 hours. And rightfully so.

That is far from an authoritarian state. Oh and btw isn't Australia THE number one law and order state? To me that sounds far more authoritarian (although I would not say Australia is an authoritarian state).


You see that is the problem right there: if laws would be made like people like that women would want them to be the main goal of the justice system would be vengeance. Where is the justice in that? I think society already moved past that, although there are a lot of people that would want it that way.

So calling someone a name on the internet should result in jail?

Wow…

[Midra, Lord of Frenzied Flame]

Toggle off Global chat

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Use the Ignore function on certain players

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[m99noble]

Nguyên văn bởi Arestris:

Nguyên văn bởi Nova:

Saying anything that's not government approved is basically illegal in germany. Its a joke of a country filled with pathetic losers. They locked up a woman for calling child gang rapists "disgraceful pigs" for longer than the actual criminal got.

Sorry, that's bullsh*t!

I can say almost anything in Germany, including criticism, even exaggerated and unfounded in a populist tone, of the current government and so on. There are only limits where you directly insult others or the statements are racist and inciting, e.g. directed against people based on their origin, skin color, ethnicity or religion!

They've outlawed saying racist things in Germany? Wow that sucks and youre not allowed to insult people? Imagine living in a place where government compels speech lol couldnt be me.

[DELAMAIN]

true. ru chat filled with rushist svastic in chat

[Fraktal]

Nguyên văn bởi Urmanin:

Imagine being german hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha what a joke lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Trump will make Germany the 53rd state.

[....]

Nguyên văn bởi Arestris:

Nguyên văn bởi ....:

No thanks - keep your german worldview. Especially those absurd "hate" definitions that can mean anything and nothing - see the case below.

Just imagine a country like china then asking for everyone worldwide censoring according to their law. Honestly OP - disable your chat ... or just report really bad stuff - but no - german law isnt universal everywhere.

And about german laws:
https://www.zeit.de/hamburg/2021-09/pimmelgate-hamburg-innensenator-andy-grote-hausdurchsuchung-beleidigung-st-pauli
- long story short - someone called someone a "name for a genital" and got his home raided by the police because it was considered a hate crime ...
- not only did they raid the wrong apartment, they also did that after the guy already went to the police and confessed that it was him

No thanks. I prefer countries with real free speech. Yes there are limits but they are way higher - and in the end - whats the point of censoring everything - ppl wont change their minds - and honestly i prefer to know the opinions of ppl im talking to.


You also havent even described what you mean, to be honest i dont look at the chat much but i havent seen anything extreme yet. What exactly are you talking about?


I mean just look at your political parties - where did all that censorship and not talking about topics bring you? You now have a right-wing party on its way to become the most popular party ... which is actually really bad.

Inform yourself, the raid was clearly unlawful, officially established! Only cos there was done something wrong, doesn't mean this is how it goes in Germany. But well, facts are a bad way to stir up trouble, aren't they?

https://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/hausdurchsuchung-pimmelgate-affaere-rechtswidrig-1.5634877

Doesnt really matter since it still happened. The fact alone that there was a criminal investigation is absurd. Also yes the search was unlawfull but it was still not clear that this isnt a criminal offense. I mean the fact alone that police will investigated someone for this is something i never thought would happen in a free democracy.

The fact alone to live in a country where the police raids your home because you called someone "male genital" is scary.

Sorry but just to prove my point:
https://netzpolitik.org/2022/meinungsfreiheit-mit-hausdurchsuchungen-gegen-likes/
https://www.stern.de/digital/online/polizei-beschlagnahmt-smartphone-wegen-twitter-likes-von-hassrede-31969380.html

Dont get me wrong those things are morally wrong on every level - but no i dont think that things like that should lead to the police confiscating your smartphone or search your home.

I think its scare that completley unclear words are used in criminal law. Hate is a word that means nothing and everything. Some people these days even say its hate if you give a game a negative review ...

Sorry but i think germany is going down a road when it comes to privacy, censorship etc. that is frightening.

Also in general, its just absurd how human interaction seems to be more and more guided by criminal law when it comes to morally questionable behaviour.

For example - if someone calls someone an idiot etc. in RL - would you seriously agree that the right response is a criminal investigation? Criminal law is a red line - not a tool to make human interaction more and more akward. People are emotional, people will cuss - the consequences should be social not criminal law.

I mean just look at modern business - its absurd, everything is the same completely nonsensical and meaningless terminology because everyone is scared to offend anyone at all or to make any clear statement. People will search old things for problematic things and just delete it for no reason. For example if you want to watch scrubs or community these days - guess what there are at least 3 episodes that were simply removed for no logical reason.

[alan0n]

Pffft... Germany is one step away from the UK and their 'go to jail for your slightly passive aggressive facebook post' laws.

'Murika! ♥♥♥♥ Ya.

[apachex]

So GGG, its still the same issue. It would be nice, if u could give a statement.