Nice nerf, thanks for wasting my time.

[4tw'xz0dus]

So, I´v been wasting exalted orbs on gear for EVER to get to the point where it feels good to play and get some momentum. That was yesterday finally, now my build is useless and you just decided that my time is worth nothing, it was not even that op i constantly kept dying. I know your trying to get the game balanced but just hammering people out of your game is not a good idea.

[WereChicken]

Escrito originalmente por TrashPanda:

I love threads like this .. I get to block even more horrible people who do nothing but post hateful spiteful replies.

@OP no not you, I agree ...two characters of mine are now both DOA and I have painfully started levelling a new one to replace them both.

This game right now feels like its just wasting my time instead of letting me actually test anything by allowing me to progress. They should have left the overturned bosses till full release.

Don't forget to report them to. Those people are just toxic wherever they can and should be ignored.

I don't mind a build getting nerfed IF they give free respecs for a short while afterwards or some form of compensation for your time. Otherwise it is just wasting peoples time.

It also helps the devs doing this as then people can more rapidly switch to a different build that they can get data on.

[TrashPanda]

Escrito originalmente por poopArbitration:

Curious what build you were using, because my build feels far stronger/smoother to play in the latest patch.

Feel like a lot of people get roped into doing the super op builds that are clearly going to get nerfed since they are huge outliers. And then those same people get mad their OP build is now in line with everything else.

They destroyed trigger spells, anyone using them even in the right way will find their damage is well ♥♥♥♥.

♥♥♥♥ to the point you cant play unless you are a masochist or had enough gold to respec out of it.

[TobiramaDE]

There is a difference in nerfing and killing a build. This is def a kill. No matter it's EA or not. These devs have a brain but in standby mode
If the other class gems also get killed the people will go back to PoE1 where the real balancing team is sitting

[DeathBringer]

Escrito originalmente por 4tw'xz0dus:

Escrito originalmente por Zenwolf:

I really find it hard to understand what people expect from a beta.
They said it quite clearly here:

Will there be wipes during Early Access?
No, there will not be a wipe. We will do new leagues but none of your characters will be wiped, they will just go to a league called Early Access (so they will never be in Standard). In some cases characters in old leagues might be somewhat broken by balance changes though. After launch the "Early Access" characters will still exist.

All this will eventually end up in a separate league of it's own probably a testing ground for future patches. So yeh the gonna mess with a lot of things before full release that is what beta is for.

I understand its Early access, but i´m new to poe and this game ain´t no joke and that´s what i like about it, but if they just nerf everything that works it makes the will to find something new go away because soon as you do, they nerf it to the ground. Why take away the chaos and just destroy a build instead of letting the build be the same just lower the damage, The chaos in the build was fun but they took the fun out of it instead of just lowering the damage and letting people play in the chaos, idk seems like nobody but the hardcore player base gets to play untill one year from now when the game is stable.

Sir, the game is still a baby, there will be more chapters, and many updates will happen, some builds will ge better, others worse and that is how it's. The game launched just a few days ago, and it's on easy mode. Believe me, it's going to get harder because good RPG's are like that. If you don't like it, it's better to find another game because PoE community it's already settled, and the essence will keep.... If your build isn't good anymore, make another, that is the joy

[4tw'xz0dus]

Escrito originalmente por TrashPanda:

I love threads like this .. I get to block even more horrible people who do nothing but post hateful spiteful replies.

@OP no not you, I agree ...two characters of mine are now both DOA and I have painfully started levelling a new one to replace them both.

This game right now feels like its just wasting my time instead of letting me actually test anything by allowing me to progress. They should have left the overturned bosses till full release.

Thank you for a grate response, I´m in love with the game but like you say right now the game feels like its working against me :') it´s ether power though or wait a year :D

[alan0n]

Sooo... You really think they should have left in with the ability to two shot high end game bosses simply because YOU happened to be built into it? Making all characters NOT built into it unable to compete on the ladders is totally fine as long as your ego stays satisfied?

Is it even possible to be more entitled and selfish? I hope you DO block me because someone with this mindset is someone I'd be happy not to be engaged by.

[fx!]

Yeah it is pretty bad, I feel they should provide some compensation through a hotfix at this point, we will see. Also early access doesn't mean beta/testing environment.
My suggestion is to either wait for their response and/or play different character in the meantime.

[Lounge Sweet]

Those new to POE need to understand how this development team functions. Generally they float ideas and new mechanics in the form of leagues, this introduces new skills, mechanics in a way that does not impact the standard game. In the first few weeks of the league they will tweek in order to see how the mechanic reacts with the rest of the mechanics already in place. Then if it seems to gel well they move it to the Standard build after the league ends. League players are your testers, exploiters and guides on what to keep, change or cut.

POE2 has no standard yet, no leagues to test out these new ideas. Just all us players and the Beta version of the core game, By all means provide your feedback if adjustments are to unbalanced, keeping in mind that they have analytics and statistics to back up each change they are making. But venting into the void serves nothing and no one. Without the balance everyone ends up playing the same meta and key items used in those builds end up costing 1000's of Exalts to buy on the market. No all classes need to have a balanced pros and cons.

[CvB]

Escrito originalmente por TrashPanda:

@OP no not you, I agree ...two characters of mine are now both DOA and I have painfully started levelling a new one to replace them both.

How about doing builds that does not bank 100% on 1 skill & mechanic so the loss if nerfed does not break the character?
Sure, they will never be full on optimal. But on the other hand it is guaranteed without shadow of a doubt that there will be ALOT more balance changes the coming month. Lots and lots more builds will be nerfed. And myself personaly would rather play a tiny little bit less optimal character that doesnt get bricked in the first week.

Just a tip for you who has restarted two times already. Maybe it will save you some headache.

[Subsonic]

Escrito originalmente por 4tw'xz0dus:

So, I´v been wasting exalted orbs on gear for EVER to get to the point where it feels good to play and get some momentum. That was yesterday finally, now my build is useless and you just decided that my time is worth nothing, it was not even that op i constantly kept dying. I know your trying to get the game balanced but just hammering people out of your game is not a good idea.

Its exactly the idea, people test, changes happen, rinse repeat, what did you think EA was for ? Your personal entertainment ?

[Captain Explodo]

i mean , playing any game is a waste of time. the entire point of video games is escapism, to waste time. if you don't want your time wasted , go earn some money or something in RL.

[CvB]

Escrito originalmente por fx!:

Yeah it is pretty bad, I feel they should provide some compensation through a hotfix at this point, we will see. Also early access doesn't mean beta/testing environment.
My suggestion is to either wait for their response and/or play different character in the meantime.

Its still launch week. The majority of games has balance patches with nerfs and buffs the first couple of weeks.
Sorry to say but, it is kind of foolish to build your first character in a newly released EA game so that it gets completly bricked by 1 nerf to 1 mechanic. With no possible way of grinding gold for respec.

And on that, NO you should not be compensated for having to respec. Just grind the gold and stop being lazy. Sometimes you just have to grind, deal with it.

[EX01]

A game should not feel bad because you are prohibited from adapting to the changes made by the devs.

It makes people not want to play, it stops creativity and removes fun.

[DeadlyKitten]

There are people level 50+ that got bricked.
They don't have enough gold to respec and they feel like it's lost in limbo cause they cant progress further or respec cause the gold prices are abysmally high.
This will slowly make people stop playing till the full release.

[Arestris]

Really, too many people have obviously no clue what Early Access and in developement means ...
While I agree, that they at least could reset the passive skill tree with an update, in general it's obvious that those things can and will happen and that many times more until the game releases.