Specs for PoE2? GPU vs CPU

[GhostofODB]

I plan to upgrade the whole machine, but I want to know what would give me better performance in this case. My GPU doesn't seem to hit full load and I'm on a bit of older specs. I'm wondering what to hit first since I can't currently get a 5070ti in stock at MSRP (plan to soon).

GPU: 1080ti
CPU: 2700x
Ram: 64gb ram
Running on NVME

I hear mixed things, is it CPU intensive or GPU intensive? Would getting a better cpu give me better performance more than GPU at this point even though I plan to upgrade both? Game is playable, but lots of stutters with tons of mobs on screen and I notice VRAM isn't fully coooked, but CPU bar seems to always be near somewhat maxed out (not fully).

[simon]

The game is more CPU intensive than GPU but its not as simple as getting a better CPU will be better if your GPU is much weaker because the CPU will get bottle necked and the extra performance will be handicapped. You want to try and match CPU and GPU so they both work well together.

[Rogue]

9070xt and 9800x3d.

[GhostofODB]

Originally posted by simon:

The game is more CPU intensive than GPU but its not as simple as getting a better CPU will be better if your GPU is much weaker because the CPU will get bottle necked and the extra performance will be handicapped. You want to try and match CPU and GPU so they both work well together.

Yeah, I'm going to be upgrading both just not at the same time until I can get a GPU at MSRP, so I'm just going to be roughing it. I'm just curious if a new CPU would help out here and give me some better performance until I can find a GPU

[MrSoul]

If you can find one, you're probably going to want to grab a 5700x3d
like this guy: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5700X3D-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0CQ4H4H7X

Bit pricey, so I'd look around for sure, but like it's that or my only other real recommendation would be to do a platform upgrade to something in the AM5 realm.

That proc above tho, lets you stay with AM4 for bit longer, and keep that 64GB ram too, and ultimately once have that done, like the 1080 isn't awful, it is getting bit long in the tooth but yeah, I'm pretty sure that proc is whats really holding you back here. Don't forget, especially a lower resolutions, you can be heavily bottle-necked by the CPU, which may explain why it's barely going.

To ad hoc test this, I mean, try jacking the resolution if you can, in theory should offset the bottleneck to the GPU. Long run yeah, look for new GPU, but I'd focus on other parts first personally. If somehow start seeing better performance relatively when do turn the res up, then ugh...new monitor? lol

Oh. Just do some research if you are going to go for that proc, or a 5950x etc. Make sure your mobo has the bios support for it. If so, you're golden, if not, may as well just upgrade to AM5 anyways. Ohx2, your last question, sorry love geeking out on build ideas, um, I'd honestly say it's pretty even depending on how trying to run it and what res, but for a game of its kind it is very cpu heavy, yes. I have a 5950X, and even in 4k where my gpu is the bottleneck, it gets er' going.

[MC858]

i run it on my laptop on the highest settings and its great
Ryzen 9 7940HX RTX4070

[Hiroko]

I run it on an i5 and gtx 750. Its not beautiful but I get stable 30 fps in most combat scenarios, minus certain builds (which are primarily cpu bottlenecked). Its probably your settings, both in-game and especially out of game that need love, but to answer your question its the cpu and then vram you would benefit from most.

[Illumina]

Don't give Nvidia money, buy AMD.

[thedeadmanshow87]

I have a ryzen 5-5600x with a gigabyte 7800xt and I never have any crashing issues personally. Playing on vulkan also makes it run much smoother for me though. campaign I play on around 120 fps 1440p high settings but there is dips in fps constantly. Just an un- optimized game thats in EA still

[Cerveyio]

ryzen 5 3600 xt
geforce 2060
32 gb ram

And the game does not run fluently with 60 fps on 1080p.
This is kinda ridiculous.
Optimization should be the really first step to make players a little bit more happy.

[Rudal]

If it helps below is my rig.

i7-8700K @3,7GHz
GF3090Ti @2560x1440
32BG RAM
SSD

It is quite old computer, I need to do an upgrade but games runs on High settings without DLSS and no V-Sync.
Depending on the location I am getting 90-120 fps where the average holds around 100.
It is 100fps most of the times with some jumps.
CPU runs at 50-ish % and GPU has a solid 95% load.

I am not going to recomend anyhitng as I am out of date recently, so just treat it as a data point more than anything else.
Just a proof that you don't need a stellar PC to run this game with decent FPS and decent settings.

[naka]

be aware of the current ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that is nvidia drivers (check gamer nexus and others video about it). quite certain many ppl that get crashed with PoE2 have driver related issues without knowing.

I have a Rx 7900xt and PoE2 runs insanly well with AMD cards for some reason - especially compared to nvidia.

Originally posted by Illumina:

Don't give Nvidia money, buy AMD.

+1 especially now that they cant even do drivers properly anymore

[GhostofODB]

Originally posted by Illumina:

Don't give Nvidia money, buy AMD.

Unfortunately, I don't only use my PC for gaming but also productivity and Nvidia shines more on that front than AMD. In either case, I haven't seen a 9070xt for sale at MSRP either

[GhostofODB]

Originally posted by MrSoul:

If you can find one, you're probably going to want to grab a 5700x3d
like this guy: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5700X3D-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0CQ4H4H7X

Bit pricey, so I'd look around for sure, but like it's that or my only other real recommendation would be to do a platform upgrade to something in the AM5 realm.

That proc above tho, lets you stay with AM4 for bit longer, and keep that 64GB ram too, and ultimately once have that done, like the 1080 isn't awful, it is getting bit long in the tooth but yeah, I'm pretty sure that proc is whats really holding you back here. Don't forget, especially a lower resolutions, you can be heavily bottle-necked by the CPU, which may explain why it's barely going.

To ad hoc test this, I mean, try jacking the resolution if you can, in theory should offset the bottleneck to the GPU. Long run yeah, look for new GPU, but I'd focus on other parts first personally. If somehow start seeing better performance relatively when do turn the res up, then ugh...new monitor? lol

Oh. Just do some research if you are going to go for that proc, or a 5950x etc. Make sure your mobo has the bios support for it. If so, you're golden, if not, may as well just upgrade to AM5 anyways. Ohx2, your last question, sorry love geeking out on build ideas, um, I'd honestly say it's pretty even depending on how trying to run it and what res, but for a game of its kind it is very cpu heavy, yes. I have a 5950X, and even in 4k where my gpu is the bottleneck, it gets er' going.

Thanks. I'm going to try a 5700x3d, but I do plan to upgrade to AM5 as soon as I can find a decently priced GPU - which has been a bit frustrating and I don't see getting the 5070 as a viable purchase, but I may have to bite the bullet here.

This is really the only game I've had some struggle with and I think a lot of it has to do with just all around bad optimization on their end even with older hardware being a culprit.

[Lyote]

Originally posted by GhostofODB:

Originally posted by MrSoul:

If you can find one, you're probably going to want to grab a 5700x3d
like this guy: https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5700X3D-16-Thread-Processor/dp/B0CQ4H4H7X

Bit pricey, so I'd look around for sure, but like it's that or my only other real recommendation would be to do a platform upgrade to something in the AM5 realm.

That proc above tho, lets you stay with AM4 for bit longer, and keep that 64GB ram too, and ultimately once have that done, like the 1080 isn't awful, it is getting bit long in the tooth but yeah, I'm pretty sure that proc is whats really holding you back here. Don't forget, especially a lower resolutions, you can be heavily bottle-necked by the CPU, which may explain why it's barely going.

To ad hoc test this, I mean, try jacking the resolution if you can, in theory should offset the bottleneck to the GPU. Long run yeah, look for new GPU, but I'd focus on other parts first personally. If somehow start seeing better performance relatively when do turn the res up, then ugh...new monitor? lol

Oh. Just do some research if you are going to go for that proc, or a 5950x etc. Make sure your mobo has the bios support for it. If so, you're golden, if not, may as well just upgrade to AM5 anyways. Ohx2, your last question, sorry love geeking out on build ideas, um, I'd honestly say it's pretty even depending on how trying to run it and what res, but for a game of its kind it is very cpu heavy, yes. I have a 5950X, and even in 4k where my gpu is the bottleneck, it gets er' going.

Thanks. I'm going to try a 5700x3d, but I do plan to upgrade to AM5 as soon as I can find a decently priced GPU - which has been a bit frustrating and I don't see getting the 5070 as a viable purchase, but I may have to bite the bullet here.

This is really the only game I've had some struggle with and I think a lot of it has to do with just all around bad optimization on their end even with older hardware being a culprit.

I played at launch with my PC at these specs:
Z490 MoBo
i9 10850k
4070ti
32gb RAM.
Played at 4k.

Game ran like piss.
Had to run it with DLSS on Peformance to get FPS to a stable 60 (TV has only 60hz refresh) and even then, elemental ground effects would crush FPS down into the 30s.

So I built an entirely new PC with the following:
B850 MoBo
R9 7900x CPU
9070 XT
32gb RAM.

Game now runs at capped 60, Native 4k and only dips under 60 for a brief moment on loading town after taking a portal out of a map.

Nvidia and Intel lately have been genuinely awful.
Intel for its 13/14th gen damage issues, Nvidia for the drivers since the 50 series launch just getting worse and worse. Even for 30 and 40 series.

Unless you have some specific reason welding you to Nvidia, I can wholeheartedly recommend a 9070xt over the 5070ti.
Considerably cheaper (For me in AUS, 9070xt was $1350, 5070ti starts at $1600) despite only being a hair behind (sometimes ahead) of the 5070ti in benchmarks.

The recent offerings from AMD CPUs have been quite competitive on price to performance too.

[[LZ]Icy]

U cant even ask this question.... U need gpu and cpu in perfect harmony for best performance , Ur either gonna crap out on cpu or gpu performance otherwise (Its always 1) So bassicly get like a ryzen 9 and a 4090 in a nutshell or something like this , dont event think about the 5000 series if ur serious lol (pure ♥♥♥♥)