Losing XP = Losing players

[Townhero]

This game isn't going to last long. Fact. Get rid of this design. It's trash.

[Lucifer_]

the devs are literally spitting on the time you spend in this game. genuinely the worst designed game I have ever played

[Lucifer_]

Originally posted by Mom's Spaghetti:

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny of Despair:

Mate ... aren't you getting tired living in extremes constantly?
No one said it was humanities greatest acheivment.

People who enjoy the game usualy just spent more time on their chars, trying to make decent builds.
While others just see "oh the quest tells me i have to do T12 maps even tho i constantly die, so i guess i just keep banging my head against it without changing ♥♥♥♥ all about my build or spending time in lower tier maps to farm up better gear"

No no it couldn't possibly be the player it HAS to be the game.

Furthermore GGG has said on multiple livestreams that xp loss on death is here to stay. They might tweak it number wise a bit, but its here to stay. Since you need it. For racing a lone you need it.

Explain why you should farm low tier maps, so you can proceed with high tier maps. Sorry, GRINDING low tier maps? In what way that is good for the game ? If you beat t14 lets say, you shoulnd NEVER GO BACK to t13 or 12, that PROGRESS WORKS, but no. With the the mobile company GGG, you should go back to t10, so you can maybe in 1 week progress to t15 :D I cant really understand, if people are that stupid (the ggg, poe nerds). The game is not even hard, as a first time POE player - i managed to get to level 65 - with only 4 deaths, without going trough any videos or sh.t . But i have real skill, not like you - RMT to death and spending 342 hours onto a game, that has no life in it. And most importantly, why the f you care if people dont lose XP ? IT IS SOLO ORIENTED GAME! Maybe you are too stupid to realise, that nobody cares about your hardcore nerdy, no life experience in this game. The hype is over nerd, this game will never be a success.

amen. If I had known this game was made for no life basement dwelling losers, I would never have spent my money on it.

[Zilaman]

>play early access game
>die
>write essay in discussions

never change, discussions.

[KEKGOT]

Originally posted by donut32:

Originally posted by Mom's Spaghetti:

Explain why you should farm low tier maps, so you can proceed with high tier maps. Sorry, GRINDING low tier maps? In what way that is good for the game ? If you beat t14 lets say, you shoulnd NEVER GO BACK to t13 or 12, that PROGRESS WORKS, but no. With the the mobile company GGG, you should go back to t10, so you can maybe in 1 week progress to t15 :D I cant really understand, if people are that stupid (the ggg, poe nerds). The game is not even hard, as a first time POE player - i managed to get to level 65 - with only 4 deaths, without going trough any videos or sh.t . But i have real skill, not like you - RMT to death and spending 342 hours onto a game, that has no life in it. And most importantly, why the f you care if people dont lose XP ? IT IS SOLO ORIENTED GAME! Maybe you are too stupid to realise, that nobody cares about your hardcore nerdy, no life experience in this game. The hype is over nerd, this game will never be a success.

you are trying to talk to sense to someone who has played 350 hours since launch. that is literally 8 hours a day, every single day. they defend this garbage game design because they have nothing else to do except play video games all day, so they dont realize what a massive waste of time this poor design is.

people who have lives and a job obviously dont like the system since it makes zero sense to walk backwards.

there is just no reaching them

How are you that mad LMAO. It's not a hard concept to understand. All games have this design in some way or another. Take Elden Ring, can't beat a boss? Go farm an area you can handle to farm runes. Hell, even racing games, can't beat the opponent you're up against, go farm ones you can beat, to upgrade your car. Just enjoy the game. You don't have to be some sweat lord, with cheeto dusted fingers to get to high end lvl endgame.

[Zanzil]

It make sense to lose exp by dying so there is a risk always to lose exp.
was the same in diablo 2 and even more bad. Poe 2 has many thinks from poe 1 and diablo 2. You can always play other games like LE,D4,Grim Dawn if u dont like this system.

[Lucifer_]

Originally posted by KEKGOT:

Originally posted by donut32:

you are trying to talk to sense to someone who has played 350 hours since launch. that is literally 8 hours a day, every single day. they defend this garbage game design because they have nothing else to do except play video games all day, so they dont realize what a massive waste of time this poor design is.

people who have lives and a job obviously dont like the system since it makes zero sense to walk backwards.

there is just no reaching them

How are you that mad LMAO. It's not a hard concept to understand. All games have this design in some way or another. Take Elden Ring, can't beat a boss? Go farm an area you can handle to farm runes. Hell, even racing games, can't beat the opponent you're up against, go farm ones you can beat, to upgrade your car. Just enjoy the game. You don't have to be some sweat lord, with cheeto dusted fingers to get to high end lvl endgame.

LOL, except in elden ring it's about skill not gambling in the game or on a website to get the gear that allows you to delete everything. You can do lvl 1 runs in elden ring because it's skill based. Poe2 is a glorified mobile game, shallow as a pond masquerading as a deep game. There's no build variety, no skill needed. Just buy the gear you need and nuke everything or get nuked yourself.

[Fluffy Bunny of Despair]

Originally posted by Mom's Spaghetti:

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny of Despair:

Mate ... aren't you getting tired living in extremes constantly?
No one said it was humanities greatest acheivment.

People who enjoy the game usualy just spent more time on their chars, trying to make decent builds.
While others just see "oh the quest tells me i have to do T12 maps even tho i constantly die, so i guess i just keep banging my head against it without changing ♥♥♥♥ all about my build or spending time in lower tier maps to farm up better gear"

No no it couldn't possibly be the player it HAS to be the game.

Furthermore GGG has said on multiple livestreams that xp loss on death is here to stay. They might tweak it number wise a bit, but its here to stay. Since you need it. For racing a lone you need it.

Explain why you should farm low tier maps, so you can proceed with high tier maps. Sorry, GRINDING low tier maps? In what way that is good for the game ? If you beat t14 lets say, you shoulnd NEVER GO BACK to t13 or 12, that PROGRESS WORKS, but no. With the the mobile company GGG, you should go back to t10, so you can maybe in 1 week progress to t15 :D I cant really understand, if people are that stupid (the ggg, poe nerds). The game is not even hard, as a first time POE player - i managed to get to level 65 - with only 4 deaths, without going trough any videos or sh.t . But i have real skill, not like you - RMT to death and spending 342 hours onto a game, that has no life in it. And most importantly, why the f you care if people dont lose XP ? IT IS SOLO ORIENTED GAME! Maybe you are too stupid to realise, that nobody cares about your hardcore nerdy, no life experience in this game. The hype is over nerd, this game will never be a success.

Sure.
You farm low tier maps if you make a bad build that can't run higher tier ones without better gear.
Its called progression. Some builds like summoner witch has a rather easy time with it. You don't need a lot for high tier maps.
Others are more gear dependent. Its called diversity and complexity. I can understand you not knowing about this if you come from D4.

Ofc you should go back if you are not good enough. Losing the game should come with a punishment after all. And since maps can be rolled in so many different ways the difficulty flucates a lot. Another thing people just don't seem to understand. Just because you can run a white T13 doesn't mean you can run a rare T13 with 3 damage mods on it.

And sure you have skill. Thats why you are so upset about losing a bit of XP on death. Cause you are just soooo good. Got it.

And i have multiple reasons for why i want the XP loss to stay.

Firstly its important for Racing in PoE. Specially Softcore. First to 100 and such.
Again, you probably do not understand because in D4 you get 100 in a couple of hours but ... yeah. Its a thing here. People race and have fun with it.

Secondly i personally like the idea of messing up or losing the video game actually having consequences. I know this is a foreign concept to you. But this is not hello kitty online after all. It makes builds more diverse and balanced.
You know, not only building DPS. But someone as skilled as you sure has figured that out by now.

Its funny tho. Its always people like you that cry about RMT ... like people who didn't even get to T2 maps.
Since everybody else knows how to make currency in PoE and udnerstands how quick and easy you can make it. I know. Hard to comprehend since all the games you play do not even allow traiding.

And i am not sure what you mean by never be a success. It already is a success. Unless you also have a problem with numbers. Then disregard the last point since i can't be bothered to explain that as well to you.

[donut32]

Originally posted by Darthjerro:

Originally posted by donut32:

no i didnt realize that a holiday was in december. thanks for pointing that out. good stuff man

clown

So your whole argument about ppl having 350 hours is null and void, clown.

no it isnt because thats still 8 hours a day. no normal well adjusted adult has an average of 8 hours a day to play video games

clown

[donut32]

Originally posted by KEKGOT:

Originally posted by donut32:

you are trying to talk to sense to someone who has played 350 hours since launch. that is literally 8 hours a day, every single day. they defend this garbage game design because they have nothing else to do except play video games all day, so they dont realize what a massive waste of time this poor design is.

people who have lives and a job obviously dont like the system since it makes zero sense to walk backwards.

there is just no reaching them

How are you that mad LMAO. It's not a hard concept to understand. All games have this design in some way or another. Take Elden Ring, can't beat a boss? Go farm an area you can handle to farm runes. Hell, even racing games, can't beat the opponent you're up against, go farm ones you can beat, to upgrade your car. Just enjoy the game. You don't have to be some sweat lord, with cheeto dusted fingers to get to high end lvl endgame.

what was this meltdown about. we are talking about losing exp on death, not gearing up a character.

must be a troll

[Fluffy Bunny of Despair]

Originally posted by donut32:

Originally posted by Darthjerro:

So your whole argument about ppl having 350 hours is null and void, clown.

no it isnt because thats still 8 hours a day. no normal well adjusted adult has an average of 8 hours a day to play video games

clown

What? normal and well adjusted? xD
Thats not a thing. What do you mean xD

[donut32]

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny of Despair:

Originally posted by donut32:

no it isnt because thats still 8 hours a day. no normal well adjusted adult has an average of 8 hours a day to play video games

clown

What? normal and well adjusted? xD
Thats not a thing. What do you mean xD

yes it is a thing. clearly you are not ranking among us. 5% of your total playtime during the year of 2024 was POE2. since i am fair ill cut your time in half for december. 175 hours. 175 hours times 20 gets us 3500 hours. divided by 365 that puts you at 9.6 hours, PER DAY, playing video games.

its why there is no point in trying to discuss anything with players like you. things like farming 20000 maps or losing progress randomly doesnt bother you because you have an inordinate amount of time to waste on video games every single day.

blocked.

[Fluffy Bunny of Despair]

Originally posted by donut32:

yes it is a thing. clearly you are not ranking among us. 5% of your total playtime during the year of 2024 was POE2. since i am fair ill cut your time in half for december. 175 hours. 175 hours times 20 gets us 3500 hours. divided by 365 that puts you at 9.6 hours, PER DAY, playing video games.

its why there is no point in trying to discuss anything with players like you. things like farming 20000 maps or losing progress randomly doesnt bother you because you have an inordinate amount of time to waste on video games every single day.

blocked.

So you are pissy because someone can afford to spend that much time and play video games?
Or are you just in general that way? Because you are clearly not well adjusted either seeing how much time you spent on these forums.

And sure block me. Like all your arguments are the same anyway.

"I wanna be able to do that too but i can't so i complain"

[cAipi_rInHa]

Originally posted by donut32:

time to waste on video games.

blocked.

Maybe you should not play video games. Go back to solve the mysteries of the universe and work on world peace. Thanks for your hard work lol.

blocked.

[Kingslayer]

Originally posted by Townhero:

This game isn't going to last long. Fact. Get rid of this design. It's trash.

GIT GUD, this ain't no problem since poe 1.

[DYNIA]

no, git gut