Is Armour Playable yet?

[KenoZuki]

I want to like this game, and for the moment... Im playing Last Epoch cause I got tired of being one shot even while armour stacking. Is it playable yet? :P

[DirtyMick]

Yeah for sure. You need at least 1 other layer though of course, and decent health. I got a level 88 warbringer on hardcore with about 3.1k health, 75% block chance, and like 66% armor. No evasion or energy shield. I always miss armor when I level with evasion or ES. Usually I end up dying lol. Armor is very underrated imo.

[UltraBrutalTechies]

No, armor still useless.

[Hubbell35]

Originally posted by UltraBrutalTechies:

No, armor still useless.

Wrong.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Always has been. Sheeps just focus on top broken build and consider everything else bad.

[joeredner]

Originally posted by UltraBrutalTechies:

No, armor still useless.

Laughably wrong.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by DirtyMick:

Yeah for sure. You need at least 1 other layer though of course, and decent health. I got a level 88 warbringer on hardcore with about 3.1k health, 75% block chance, and like 66% armor. No evasion or energy shield. I always miss armor when I level with evasion or ES. Usually I end up dying lol. Armor is very underrated imo.

ES+eva with ghost dance is very tanky once you pump it up abit. Even in cheap gear you can have 2k hp and 2k ES that works as selfreplenishing buffer.

[dragonwraith]

i can tell you from experience that armor and evade combined doesn't compare to just straight es and health, i have, well had a kitava smith prolly mostly to experiment to see if what i thought was right or wrong or me just complaining so i built this toon very well in fact over built it all ele resist over 100% even had a belt with 4 slots for charm lol even though i couldn't use 4 but i wanted 3 to get most from charms my chaos resist 70% armor lol my armor would hit 82% not sure what my evade was i had well over 2k health and lol a little tiny bit of es. i used resonating shield, which i would almost constantly use to break armor and that meant i was almost constantly blocking on top of all my other stats, then either bone shatter to clear mobs or sunder to rip to pieces bosses and rares.
and i could really tear bosses up as i fully break their armor then sunder, and well watch almost 3 quarters of their health drop. so i got in a exp leech group, i figured getting to lvl 86 was good enough i guess, so at 86 i then hit the big maps, about a lvl 9 or 10 blue trash map rofl and as ya know i was way above the monster lvl, so my lvl a lone should have more than made up for any armor below 100% rofl...... and i got tore to pieces like all my stats were trash, i mean i could take a beating from a boss or rare but those big mean white and blue mobs were devastating so i tried and tried and well i deleted every toon i made but 1 i help a friend with and i am now waiting for titan quest 2 to come out because something is wrong in this game and im not sure ggg cares. i know i know the big top guys on the forums are gonna say its a skill issue or git good, prolly cause they cant understand or explain this so its just easier to say the 1st couple stupid things that pop in your head, i have well over 1k hours in this game, man i loved poe 1 and was eager for 2 cause i had many many more hours of play in poe 1 so im not stupid as to what to do in the game im just tired of broken junk and it not being fixed, but i believe this is what ggg wants and well let them keep the big top end awesome uber no 1 better in the world players and see where that gets them as the same players don't want to go to hardcore but play on standard and then complain its to easy and make it harder so they don't have to lose the toon in hardcore as they then insult the very people who play standard for a reason and not hardcore

[dragonwraith]

oh oh oh and another thing i was on feythorn cruel i hit that boss with full armor break and then sunder and made him go to 2nd phase lol so when he was able to be hit guess what? lol yup i broke his armor and sunder and as he hit about an eighth of his health left i got hit with something i didnt know what and i couldn't heal fast enough. rofl i died on that lousy boss and was mad, almost quit then, but stopped and was like wait let me try this again and sure enough almost at the very same amount of health bam i get hit cause i was not moving cause he could barely damage me till that point both times, so i took off running thought i was standing in stuff trying to heal to no avail and well died, so im like what is killing me??? so im thinking blood so i go back to town and change to immunity to bleed charm, that took me bout 2 min i guess, give or take and well that was it he now couldn't hardly damage me. OH BUT WAIT!!! lol something else changed i could now not hardly damage him with same setup same strategy with the only change....... the forbidden blood charm, i am not making this stupidity up, i bet i fought that boss for 5 or more minutes trying to kill him, using the very same tactics i was using not 5 min ago by breaking his armor and sunder. so in that time the bosses defense changed as well as his element def changed as i was using fire as well. so why would me just changing a charm cause this? unless ggg has it setup to trace our build and to auto change when we switch things so as to make the fight harder, just a theory i have cause i haven't read where these fights can change on the fly as we change, i mean is this the new AI? is this how its intended? these are for real questions because im at a loss and i don't like it

[Dwane Dibbley]

^ Am i getting it right that someone who cant beat t10 blue map at lvl 86 is lecturing us about game mechanic? Cuz honestly, all i read is "lol lol rofl lol i have no idea lol lol what i am doing lol rofl"

[dragonwraith]

well instead of insulting try explaining or just admit you cant, the game has problems or they want it this way, what you say means nothing, all it does is prove what i stated in my posts. i hope the game ends up with nothing but people like you and then i really want to see how well it goes, they may as well stay in early release cause there isn't enough of you that seem to do nothing more than wait to insult someone to pay the bill for the game ya seem to want to defend instead of just admitting that most of the forums, steam and regular forums are all full of the same stuff and that the game indeed has problems that they are clearly not concerned with. this is the cold hard truth, when all is left but people like you, games die and a big part of me does so enjoy as the big business thought the micro buyers was gonna keep them afloat, but then changes as they see their game almost dead to try and cater almost everything to the very ones they didn't seem to listen to........that would be the casual players because you micro outfit buyers is nothing but a drop in the bucket toward keeping the game alive. so stop with the keyboard superman junk, cause that is really all it is, for you to insult what i proved very clearly says everything about your character, if that doesn't bother you then there is a problem because you not only referred to me as ignorant and stupid but most of the forums that fill it with complaints and yet the problems are not addressed like they are addressing the micro shop in this new patch. try having a decent conversation instead of what you feel makes you cool because it certainly does not God bless and i will be ignoring you because i have learned people like you just don't want to change or treat people any better than you already do. i hope that changes but in my 56 years on this earth i have come to learn.....people like you love the filthy decadent subverted lifestyle full of degradation, as i have seen the pleasure it brings people like you to try and bring as much sadness and misery to others around you.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Originally posted by dragonwraith:

well instead of insulting try explaining or just admit you cant, the game has problems or they want it this way, what you say means nothing, all it does is prove what i stated in my posts. i hope the game ends up with nothing but people like you and then i really want to see how well it goes, they may as well stay in early release cause there isn't enough of you that seem to do nothing more than wait to insult someone to pay the bill for the game ya seem to want to defend instead of just admitting that most of the forums, steam and regular forums are all full of the same stuff and that the game indeed has problems that they are clearly not concerned with. this is the cold hard truth, when all is left but people like you, games die and a big part of me does so enjoy as the big business thought the micro buyers was gonna keep them afloat, but then changes as they see their game almost dead to try and cater almost everything to the very ones they didn't seem to listen to........that would be the casual players because you micro outfit buyers is nothing but a drop in the bucket toward keeping the game alive. so stop with the keyboard superman junk, cause that is really all it is, for you to insult what i proved very clearly says everything about your character, if that doesn't bother you then there is a problem because you not only referred to me as ignorant and stupid but most of the forums that fill it with complaints and yet the problems are not addressed like they are addressing the micro shop in this new patch. try having a decent conversation instead of what you feel makes you cool because it certainly does not God bless and i will be ignoring you because i have learned people like you just don't want to change or treat people any better than you already do. i hope that changes but in my 56 years on this earth i have come to learn.....people like you love the filthy decadent subverted lifestyle full of degradation, as i have seen the pleasure it brings people like you to try and bring as much sadness and misery to others around you.

Man, you literaly created huge wall of assumptions and insults about how i hurt you by stating simple fact. Look for some help, you are not OK.

Use paragraphs, its pain to read your fairy tales.

[Acronen]

My experience with the defensive types (armor, evasion, energy shield) is this:

While leveling, armor and evasion are both very good. They felt so much better than energy shield.

Energy shield I hated, completely sucked until I could get a decent amount of faster start nodes, then it was great like the others.

Evasion falls off hard, really, really hard at about t8 maps. It becomes this super frustrating slot machine of "live through everything or die in 1 hit"

Armor stays good against packs of mobs, but becomes somewhat bad against many bosses at about the same point as evasion becomes bad (t8)

Energy shield gets better and better in end game as you build into it, and gear for it.

At end game, with 7200 energy shield and chaos innoculation (lich) I feel pretty immortal. With 88% Armor 3000 health 700 life regen (Smith of Kitava) I also pretty much ignore everything and feel pretty immortal (except for purple balls of doom. 4 will kill you still), with 86% evasion, 60% block 2200 health (ritualist) I feel like wet toilet paper in a wood chipper. Hate it.

All SSF (so couldn't really max things.)

[Dwane Dibbley]

^ you should try proper es/evasion build with ghost dance and wind dancer.

86% evasion is overkill, should have swapped to acrobatic. 70+% acrobatic feels good, but you will get oneshots. Its still viable for everything but simulacrum.

[UltraBrutalTechies]

Originally posted by Hubbell35:

Originally posted by UltraBrutalTechies:

No, armor still useless.

Wrong.

Explain? They haven't made any changes to armor, armor is same as it was in 0.1

[Detergent]

Originally posted by UltraBrutalTechies:

Originally posted by Hubbell35:

Wrong.

Explain? They haven't made any changes to armor, armor is same as it was in 0.1

0.1.1 they buffed armor.

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Armour
Best you read up on how armor works to get a better idea of its effectiveness.