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Marafabulous heeft Path of Exile 2

6 apr om 2:00

Monk Invoker is Dead

So I have a lvl 96 Monk invoker in endgame, and yes it was rather overpowered, but going from 500k dps to 50k is kinda crazy. I understand that killing Pinnacle bosses in seconds and avoiding all the mechanics is not great, therefore I was actually fine with the damage nerf. So I decided to spend the weekend to rework my skill tree, rework my skill gems with some of the new supports, change gear (which I have heaps of high level stuff) even spent a bunch of divines on different gear to try and salvage my poor monk. Just when I thought "yeah, this should work" I get stun locked and die multiple times. So I grab every single Stun Threshold node I can, base it off of ES, get extra stun threshold on my gear. Oh, now I get repeatedly Frozen. ok, so now I grab a bunch of Ailment threshold nodes and gear. Oh now I do almost zero damage, STILL get stun locked and frozen and still die. So my conclusion is that Invoker monk is pretty much unplayable in endgame. Even with Meditate to boost my ES to 10k I still got one shot by a mob. I am all for nerfing Meta builds, but now I cant even do a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ map without getting my ass handed to me from white mobs...WITH A LVL 96!! How the hell would a casual player EVER get to even try a pinnacle boss when a Endgame invoker monk now cant even clear a T15 map without getting chewed to pieces? Nerfing the damage is fine, but not when you also nerf defense AND make it so that you literally cant do a thing about it due to Stuns and Ailments.

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Lyote

6 apr om 13:02

Origineel geplaatst door DeadlyKitten:
Origineel geplaatst door Xariot:
TBF every build is dead now, GGG thinks slamming your face against a wall over and over is the kind of fun it's players are looking for.
Watching big youtubers struggling against normal mobs is painful.
They did lower the hp in the recent patch but didn't touch the endgame maps.
And Ghazy. a big minion build player is strugling in T1 maps cause the enemies kill his minions faster than they respawn, and he was mostly running away cause of that. lol
It's a ♥♥♥♥ balance update.

Curious to know if he invested anything into the health/resists passives for his Minions?
They're definitely more fragile early game.

What gets me with Minions right now though is the eyewatering Spirit cost for Snipers and Warriors starting off.

Very curious what drove that change ...

#31

DeadlyKitten heeft Path of Exile 2

6 apr om 13:10

Origineel geplaatst door Lyote:
Origineel geplaatst door DeadlyKitten:
Watching big youtubers struggling against normal mobs is painful.
They did lower the hp in the recent patch but didn't touch the endgame maps.
And Ghazy. a big minion build player is strugling in T1 maps cause the enemies kill his minions faster than they respawn, and he was mostly running away cause of that. lol
It's a ♥♥♥♥ balance update.

Curious to know if he invested anything into the health/resists passives for his Minions?
They're definitely more fragile early game.

What gets me with Minions right now though is the eyewatering Spirit cost for Snipers and Warriors starting off.

Very curious what drove that change ...

He explains a bit in his video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVvyW18BB0

At 6:45 there's a clip of his gameplay.
And he's strugling against white mobs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCYfyHQ0iIs

Laatst bewerkt door DeadlyKitten; 6 apr om 13:11

#32

Solofreelancer heeft Path of Exile 2

6 apr om 13:20

Origineel geplaatst door Solofreelancer:
Origineel geplaatst door Spider:
I've played Diablo 2 since release. What room clearing with a right click and no skill is there? Besides holy fire pally? Even a hammerdin isn't braindead. Clearly you didn't ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ play it. Lol

EDIT: forgot about mosaic sin, but guess what? That's within the last 2 years. So... Catering to the children.

EDIT2: I don't even like PoE2 right now. I suck at it, and don't have time to get good. That isn't the games problem, that's a me problem.
Wow I swear some of you just puke out responses instead of actually putting any thought. Want room clearing 1 button skills? Ok, here we go: poison nova necro,Frozen orb/Blizzard sorc, Spin to win Barb, Javazon, Bowazon, Zon hybrid builds, Geddon druids, Trap sins, Hydra sorc, hell holy fire isn't even a skill you use buttons on it's an aura XD. Not to mention yes hammerdin is actually braindead cause you hold a button down and let the hammers fly, it's not a hard skill to use. Maybe get your facts straight before spewing verbal gutter trash.

#33

DeadlyKitten heeft Path of Exile 2

6 apr om 13:22

Origineel geplaatst door Lyote:
Origineel geplaatst door DeadlyKitten:
Watching big youtubers struggling against normal mobs is painful.
They did lower the hp in the recent patch but didn't touch the endgame maps.
And Ghazy. a big minion build player is strugling in T1 maps cause the enemies kill his minions faster than they respawn, and he was mostly running away cause of that. lol
It's a ♥♥♥♥ balance update.

Curious to know if he invested anything into the health/resists passives for his Minions?
They're definitely more fragile early game.

What gets me with Minions right now though is the eyewatering Spirit cost for Snipers and Warriors starting off.

Very curious what drove that change ...

Also this.
8:56 - minion problems everywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn44zCtNwKM

#34

Sui Generis heeft Path of Exile 2

6 apr om 13:23

game is dead. D E A D , we are at its funeral now. we need to bury this garbage and move on to something that is fun.

#35

joeredner

6 apr om 13:23

Origineel geplaatst door Xariot:
TBF every build is dead now, GGG thinks slamming your face against a wall over and over is the kind of fun it's players are looking for.

My Warbringer is slightly better than before from what I can see. At 96 killing bosses was hard so I would literally log in my 91 Chrono to kill all my bosses because even if I could kill them it would take way too long, like develop arthritis from all the button mashing, long. Now that Chrono build is bricked but my Warbringer can actually kill a boss now. It still takes a long time but probably 20-30% faster from a purely feels like assessment. And he feels very sturdy. I can shrug off some real damage. My offensive output is still low, but I can survive long enough to dish it out.

I am not trying to diminish the pain of people with bricked builds. I also have a 91 Infernalist and that and my Chrono can't do crap now. But, I am saying not all builds came out worse and hopefully GGG will bring everything up. I didn't love that a 89 Gemling Legionaire or Invoker could do stuff my 96 Warbringer could not. That seemed unfair. But it is equally unfair that those same builds that were OP around my level can't survive content my Warbringer now can. They should be able to after hundreds of hours of time in the game. It is not balance to just lower everything.

Laatst bewerkt door joeredner; 6 apr om 13:25

#36

bazziboy

6 apr om 13:25

who cares, this game is being taken over by leftwing extremists.

dont say anything thats true, or you will get banned.

#37

bazziboy

6 apr om 13:27

or shut down at least. i just got a 3 hours ban for nothing.

they are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. why should i play a game that denies me the right to say what i want?

so ♥♥♥♥ you and your game, i am finished with you!
you eviel ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Laatst bewerkt door bazziboy; 6 apr om 13:29

#38

Lumberjack heeft Path of Exile 2

6 apr om 13:46

its not dead it got balanced.

#39

DeadlyKitten heeft Path of Exile 2

6 apr om 13:52

Origineel geplaatst door Lumberjack:
its not dead it got unbalanced.

I agree~

*stealth fix*

#40

Spider

6 apr om 13:56

Origineel geplaatst door Solofreelancer:
Origineel geplaatst door Solofreelancer:
Wow I swear some of you just puke out responses instead of actually putting any thought. Want room clearing 1 button skills? Ok, here we go: poison nova necro,Frozen orb/Blizzard sorc, Spin to win Barb, Javazon, Bowazon, Zon hybrid builds, Geddon druids, Trap sins, Hydra sorc, hell holy fire isn't even a skill you use buttons on it's an aura XD. Not to mention yes hammerdin is actually braindead cause you hold a button down and let the hammers fly, it's not a hard skill to use. Maybe get your facts straight before spewing verbal gutter trash.

You literally are not clicking one time and clearing rooms in D2. Which is what I said. You are moving in between the skill usage. I've had builds in PoE1 where the room is dead with a single right click. You are NOT doing that in D2.

Laatst bewerkt door Spider; 6 apr om 13:56

#41

Spider

6 apr om 13:57

Origineel geplaatst door bazziboy:
or shut down at least. i just got a 3 hours ban for nothing.

they are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. why should i play a game that denies me the right to say what i want?

so ♥♥♥♥ you and your game, i am finished with you!
you eviel ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

I can see exactly why you got banned. You sound like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot.

#42

Rosso

6 apr om 19:31

Origineel geplaatst door bazziboy:
or shut down at least. i just got a 3 hours ban for nothing.

they are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. why should i play a game that denies me the right to say what i want?

so ♥♥♥♥ you and your game, i am finished with you!
you eviel ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Cos you’re meant to play a game, you have a right to a different opinion. Just don’t be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, simple as that
♥♥♥♥ off to cs2 or league if you want to act like a toddler

#43

ZS54K_twitch heeft Path of Exile 2

6 apr om 20:00

what they are doing is called rotation balancing basically they make old stuff worse so that more people will play the new stuff or what was bad before to make it so they have a bigger sample size to make changes with also its still a good amount of time till full release they are trying things out to see how people feel about it. personally i think some of the nerfs made zero sense but many of them i agree with rip flameblast

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