Witch a supposed minion class has 3 non minion ascendancies

[Huaquero]

Is this a joke ? New merc ascendancy has more minion stuff than all witch ascendancies combined .

Lich is not a lich its just a boring chaos witch , its so lame , what a shame .

[Leon]

Originally posted by Gatsu:

cmon dont be shy, why ♥♥♥♥ posting on the forum and make your profile private. let anyone see how much you play poe 2 🤡

You know so so many don't use steam and use GGG own client it just seems to run better generally but its also force of habit from poe1 days too. I do use steam for laptop use mind as my account details arn't saved on that and i can't be assed to dig them out from password manager :D

[Acronen]

Originally posted by Detergent:

Originally posted by Huaquero:

What are you talking about ? Currently the best witch build is you holding a tower shield , casting a circle of flame with flame skulls on occasion while your minions do their thing .

Yes its not exclusively a minion class but they (GGG) said "if you want an army of minions witch is the class you want to play " . You should watch the witch showcase .

Army of minions doesn't mean best minion class... Just means quantity over quality.
Anyways, doesn't the witch showcase also show the witch casting spells along side her minions? Essence Drain and stuff?
Like I said, its not pure minion class. None of the classes will be 100% focused on just minions. I'm speaking about the class in general. Not if a player decides to 100% focus on minions.

It will be interesting if some of the new support gems, or any of the passive tree is changed around a bit to allow a more hybrid build.

This is what I started the game trying to do, but ultimately it ended up sucking hard. It works well early on in campaign, but quickly falls off as you progress and have to choose between doing damage yourself, or your minions actually doing damage.

I really want to make the Dark Defiler scepter work, but it's always gonna suck for hybrid builds simply do to the fact that so, so much power comes from + minion skills, and it doesn't have that.

Here's hoping.

[MilkSteak]

this is true, the ascendancy for witch is disappointing so far, the only one that synergize well with minion focus is infernalist with boring gameplay...

[Drake]

Originally posted by MilkSteak:

this is true, the ascendancy for witch is disappointing so far, the only one that synergize well with minion focus is infernalist with boring gameplay...

The first thing they said with ascendancies, is that they didn't want them to be focused on a skill type, so that you can use different builds with them.

So there will be no minion focused ascendancies, on any class. Just like there won't be specific weapons etc. People waiting for them are waiting for nothing.

Like for example, if you look at the mercenary, there is actually no passive that is designed for crossbows, you can use any skill with them.

[Ramschasar]

I start to believe people are too stupid for Path of Exile..

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Originally posted by Ramschasar:

I start to believe people are too stupid for Path of Exile..

Large reason why POE following is much smaller than D4

[YomaBlood]

bro dont understand that this forums are dead trying to farm clows with this low effort bait post

[thedeadmanshow87]

This is why Last Epoch is my favorite. EHG nailed the necromancer class fantasy imo.
But poe2 has some really cool necromancer stuff and interactions with all the classes.
I would like to see a pure necromancer ascendancy myself. Maybe they are saving that for 1.0? That would be cool for us minion lovers.

[Driss]

It feels like the person who designed the ascendancies has never even played the game.

[Misstizo]

L game is gonna do L things

[Huaquero]

Originally posted by thedeadmanshow87:

This is why Last Epoch is my favorite. EHG nailed the necromancer class fantasy imo.
But poe2 has some really cool necromancer stuff and interactions with all the classes.
I would like to see a pure necromancer ascendancy myself. Maybe they are saving that for 1.0? That would be cool for us minion lovers.

Yeah LE has a true,refined and fun lich and not some fake ašš chaos witch bullcrap that adds nothing special . Oh wow more extra chaos damage while we already have basic passives , gems and gear that do the same .

The most boring and pathetic design of a "lich" , gratz GGG .

Originally posted by Driss:

It feels like the person who designed the ascendancies has never even played the game.

Without a doubt .

[Kalas Hydra]

Originally posted by Detergent:

Originally posted by Huaquero:

Is this a joke ? New merc ascendancy has more minion stuff than all witch ascendancies combined .

Lich is not a lich its just a boring chaos witch , its so lame , what a shame .

Thought the Witch was more about curses and chaos with a hint of necromancy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyways, did you know all the classes will have some minion archetype to them?
Surprised you didn't notice.

I don't think any class will be completely a minion class. You're not supposed to 100% rely on minions in PoE2.

idk i wouldnt call the - minions have 20% extra dmg a minion build potential (thats what most ascendancies have for whatever reason)

[Detergent]

Originally posted by Kalas Hydra:

Originally posted by Detergent:

Thought the Witch was more about curses and chaos with a hint of necromancy. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anyways, did you know all the classes will have some minion archetype to them?
Surprised you didn't notice.

I don't think any class will be completely a minion class. You're not supposed to 100% rely on minions in PoE2.

idk i wouldnt call the - minions have 20% extra dmg a minion build potential (thats what most ascendancies have for whatever reason)

And the Lich basically just gives allies gain 30% as extra chaos (Can be scaled up). Thats pretty big ngl.

Compare that to Tactician gaining 20% increased presence aoe, allies in your presence gain 25% of your weapon damage, and also gets a unique new minion.

If you're just looking for raw minion power and nothing else, Tactician looks a little stronger, no? Although his starting position on the tree could change that.

Same with Warbringer. Doesn't add much minion stuff but he does get unique Ancestral Summons. I seen a few people playing pure summoner Warbringers. Apparently the Ancestral Summons provide huge group buffs?

Point is none of the classes will have an entire tree focused just on minions. But each class (class not ascendancies) will have at least 1 minion option to them.

[Deltryxz]

Originally posted by Huaquero:

Originally posted by thedeadmanshow87:

This is why Last Epoch is my favorite. EHG nailed the necromancer class fantasy imo.
But poe2 has some really cool necromancer stuff and interactions with all the classes.
I would like to see a pure necromancer ascendancy myself. Maybe they are saving that for 1.0? That would be cool for us minion lovers.

Yeah LE has a true,refined and fun lich and not some fake ašš chaos witch bullcrap that adds nothing special . Oh wow more extra chaos damage while we already have basic passives , gems and gear that do the same .

The most boring and pathetic design of a "lich" , gratz GGG .

Originally posted by Driss:

It feels like the person who designed the ascendancies has never even played the game.

Without a doubt .

But did they ever actually finish LE, cause for a supposed "full release" it's still not done lol

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Originally posted by Detergent:

Originally posted by Kalas Hydra:

idk i wouldnt call the - minions have 20% extra dmg a minion build potential (thats what most ascendancies have for whatever reason)

And the Lich basically just gives allies gain 30% as extra chaos (Can be scaled up). Thats pretty big ngl.

Compare that to Tactician gaining 20% increased presence aoe, allies in your presence gain 25% of your weapon damage, and also gets a unique new minion.

If you're just looking for raw minion power and nothing else, Tactician looks a little stronger, no? Although his starting position on the tree could change that.

Same with Warbringer. Doesn't add much minion stuff but he does get unique Ancestral Summons. I seen a few people playing pure summoner Warbringers. Apparently the Ancestral Summons provide huge group buffs?

Point is none of the classes will have an entire tree focused just on minions. But each class (class not ascendancies) will have at least 1 minion option to them.

I think the compounding bonuses from Witch starting position brings Lich on top for full minions, but we will have to wait and see.