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Cerebrophage 8 фев в 14:52
I just can't bring myself to play this.
Endgame is horrid. You get one life at a map with its modifiers and waystone modifiers. You get near to the end of the map with only a couple rares left and you get one shot by something that didn't have a telegraph; a sneak attack. The monsters blend in to the environment making it hard to discern what they're doing. I saw the monster, but all of a sudden I was dead. You lose the map, it's modifiers and the keystone.

This is far too punishing for my taste and it's just not the uphill battle I want to play when every death is two steps backward and every success is two steps back. Especially since even if you're doing a normal node, with a normal key, one life is *still* all you get.

Just being reminded why I didn't really like PoE in the first place.
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Автор сообщения: Crow Buddy:
1 chance per Map can be harsh, it's difficult to argue with that.

However, I think 3 chances total is completely fair.

If a player can't beat a map in three tries, they probably shouldn't be doing that content. The reality is that if you're dying repeatedly, you probably just need to lower the map Tier and difficulty. There's no shame in doing basic magic or white maps to grind, we have been there.

With that being said, the player may not be able to learn anything at all after one weird, awkward, random death, right?

This helps account for the typical sh*t we deal with: explosions on death, annoying projectiles that track you, some doodad on the floor blocking you from seeing an explosion or poison pool, lag deaths & desync deaths, or some other weird b*llshit that happens, fill in the blank.

So, in a 3 chance map system:

Zero deaths = Player benefits from a 270% exalt-pumped uber map, as we do now.

First death = Player still benefits from the juicy map, this is the game throwing you a bone, because video games, my friends, if you can possibly believe it, were once upon a time designed to be fun.

Two deaths = Zero map bonuses now, those sweet exalts you pumped went into the trash.

Three deaths = Player is kicked out of the current map, Waystone item is lost.
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thawn4444 9 фев в 0:17 
Автор сообщения: Cerebrophage
Endgame is horrid. You get one life at a map with its modifiers and waystone modifiers. You get near to the end of the map with only a couple rares left and you get one shot by something that didn't have a telegraph; a sneak attack. The monsters blend in to the environment making it hard to discern what they're doing. I saw the monster, but all of a sudden I was dead. You lose the map, it's modifiers and the keystone.

This is far too punishing for my taste and it's just not the uphill battle I want to play when every death is two steps backward and every success is two steps back. Especially since even if you're doing a normal node, with a normal key, one life is *still* all you get.

Just being reminded why I didn't really like PoE in the first place.

then dont play it. . . such a simple concept.

:exalted:
Отредактировано thawn4444; 9 фев в 0:17
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m4ttie 9 фев в 7:33 
Автор сообщения: Driss
I ran out of waystones so just uninstalled, the game left me no other options aside from starting over. No thanks.
Doryani sells waystones.
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GirthQQuakes 9 фев в 7:37 
Автор сообщения: Cerebrophage
Diablo I had a better gameplay loop, imo.

So play that instead. POE is too hardcore for the kids who think they should never die, always win, and have a guarantee to hit max level.
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GirthQQuakes 9 фев в 7:40 
Автор сообщения: Driss
I ran out of waystones so just uninstalled, the game left me no other options aside from starting over. No thanks.

Waystones are easily available on the market for next to nothing. A vendor aalso sells low tier waystones, so no problem if youre in SSF. You can also loot waystones in any level appropriate content.

Most of the players who complain, do so, because they do not understand the basics.

Honestly, if you don't know how to get waystones and complain about running out, you have no idea what you're doing. Are you Elon Musk?
Отредактировано GirthQQuakes; 9 фев в 7:41
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MrSoul 9 фев в 7:42 
Автор сообщения: Kixus
Can I have your currency and items if you are leaving? Would really enjoy those 40 exalts you've accumulated over the months.
dibs on their stash tabs

Автор сообщения: RedTrustfactor
It really is the worst ARPG I've played recently but its EA so maybe in like 3 years if they aren't too locked in with their vision.
was same deal with PoE 1. This game will likely be lit, but they're still refining the crude to achieve that.
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skullhunter 9 фев в 8:49 
yup, my warrior is lvl 85 very tanky and does alot damages, when I thought i able to beat everything on the map, beat twisted domain boss without much trouble and then it's always some random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the map that one shot me from 100% to 0%. The ground patch, the curse, and suffocate one shot spell from offscreen.

It's not even 1 try on each map is the problem, I'm all for elden ring like difficulty, hard but fair, but death in POE2 end game is just cheap and doesn't make any sense
Отредактировано skullhunter; 9 фев в 8:49
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Nordomus 9 фев в 9:53 
Yep 3 tries would be kind of fair.
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Driss 9 фев в 11:25 
Автор сообщения: m4ttie
Автор сообщения: Driss
I ran out of waystones so just uninstalled, the game left me no other options aside from starting over. No thanks.
Doryani sells waystones.
Im on level 10 maps, crafting them to my level would cost a fortune.
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Cerebrophage 9 фев в 12:37 
Автор сообщения: GirthQQuakes
Автор сообщения: Cerebrophage
Diablo I had a better gameplay loop, imo.

So play that instead. POE is too hardcore for the kids who think they should never die, always win, and have a guarantee to hit max level.
I did go to play something else. I don't expect to always win. Otherwise I wouldn't go to play Diablo I. Where, you lose gear if you die (IIRC) and all the gold you're carrying. But, you don't lose progress on what floor you're on.

I left because POE 2 loop sucks, not because I expect to win.
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GirthQQuakes 9 фев в 13:22 
Автор сообщения: Driss
Автор сообщения: m4ttie
Doryani sells waystones.
Im on level 10 maps, crafting them to my level would cost a fortune.

I am vendoring 5-15 waystones after every map I run.

I only keep T15's. Even still, I now have 2 stash tabs full of T15's.

You are doing something wrong.
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GirthQQuakes 9 фев в 13:26 
Автор сообщения: Cerebrophage
I left because POE 2 loop sucks, not because I expect to win.

My loop is map / vendor / roll items from map / head towards citadel / check for gear upgrade on webpage / occasionally do pinnacle boss / occasionally do Arbiter of Ash / make tons of currency by trading on margins with Alva/ back to map.

Is yours similar?
Отредактировано GirthQQuakes; 9 фев в 13:27
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Driss 9 фев в 19:50 
Автор сообщения: GirthQQuakes
Автор сообщения: Driss
Im on level 10 maps, crafting them to my level would cost a fortune.

I am vendoring 5-15 waystones after every map I run.

I only keep T15's. Even still, I now have 2 stash tabs full of T15's.

You are doing something wrong.

How am I supposed to run a map without a waystone?
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Bob Gnarly 9 фев в 20:13 
Автор сообщения: Driss
Автор сообщения: GirthQQuakes

I am vendoring 5-15 waystones after every map I run.

I only keep T15's. Even still, I now have 2 stash tabs full of T15's.

You are doing something wrong.

How am I supposed to run a map without a waystone?
He's vendoring T1 - T14 maps and only keeping T15s.

I only pick up T15s myself, because I don't have anymore stash space to store all my maps.
Отредактировано Bob Gnarly; 9 фев в 20:15
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CymTyr 9 фев в 20:25 
After dying to Jamanra at least 10 times this evening, I'm on the verge of taking a break, too.
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Cerebrophage 10 фев в 19:30 
Автор сообщения: thawn4444
Автор сообщения: Cerebrophage
Endgame is horrid. You get one life at a map with its modifiers and waystone modifiers. You get near to the end of the map with only a couple rares left and you get one shot by something that didn't have a telegraph; a sneak attack. The monsters blend in to the environment making it hard to discern what they're doing. I saw the monster, but all of a sudden I was dead. You lose the map, it's modifiers and the keystone.

This is far too punishing for my taste and it's just not the uphill battle I want to play when every death is two steps backward and every success is two steps back. Especially since even if you're doing a normal node, with a normal key, one life is *still* all you get.

Just being reminded why I didn't really like PoE in the first place.

then dont play it. . . such a simple concept.

:exalted:
Don't worry, I stopped.
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