are trials stupid?

[Catalyst]

i play a tank melee class, why am i being punished for doing my job of taking damage

[The Real Fragamemnon]

Poe2 is a run n gun loot game. Melee has no part in the game. You're playing the wrong class.

[Catalyst]

guns are for cowards and women. which one are you?

[cAipi_rInHa]

Unless you play a thorns build there’s you reason why you need to get hit. If so play the other trial.

[Tamakidd]

im playing warrior too, i just skip trial until i get enough gear and level , and done it pretty much easy after get some honour resistance relic, maybe you need to grind a little bit more, and yes, guns are for cowards

[Catalyst]

Originally posted by Tamakidd:

and done it pretty much easy after get some honour resistance relic, maybe you need to grind a little bit more

i'll have to keep an eye out for those. i only have three relics and they're not very helpful. should i be a higher level for these? i'm at 23 right now, i started them right after i cleared the map where you get the key for trials

[Tamakidd]

Originally posted by Catalyst:

Originally posted by Tamakidd:

and done it pretty much easy after get some honour resistance relic, maybe you need to grind a little bit more

i'll have to keep an eye out for those. i only have three relics and they're not very helpful. should i be a higher level for these? i'm at 23 right now, i started them right after i cleared the map where you get the key for trials

yes, patience is the key for melee players, mostly im playing solo and enjoying myself, i done it all the trials after the cruel difficulty, im not pushing myself to do it early, i can help you with the trials if you want

[Catalyst]

yeah, i think i'll just have to wait for now. just got to the last room and of course it was a big boss fight and i only had 50 honor left, so i "died" as soon as he hit me with one attack. i wish it was based on my actual health and not some invisible made up number

[Baron01]

Originally posted by Catalyst:

i play a tank melee class, why am i being punished for doing my job of taking damage

There is no tank class in PoE2. There are no such class roles in any of GGG's game. You are not supposed to tank certain hits in end-game and Trials of Sekhemas are trying to teach players about this truth.

If you are taking damage regularly, you are doing something wrong.

[Catalyst]

yeah if there isn't a tank class then why do i have 4537289472398 armor and no dodge roll

[Imperium]

Originally posted by Catalyst:

i play a tank melee class, why am i being punished for doing my job of taking damage

Trials are fair, but mechanics are misunderstood.

Give me this, go into the next trial challange with relics that combine to 75% Honor resistance, this could be achieved with 4-5 basic relics.

For your other stats you can go for life or more honor, but you wont need it, with 75% honor resist most things will be scratches.

Important relic to keep your self winning - See more rooms effect, basically lets u see 2-3 rooms ahead so u can choose the most optimal path without afflictions.

Thats it. You won, this is fail proof strategy for any class.

[RawMeatDiet]

guns are for cowards

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by Catalyst:

yeah if there isn't a tank class then why do i have 4537289472398 armor and no dodge roll

Because you're applying your preconceptions, made from other games/tropes, of what a successful build is into this one, and it's not functional.

The answer to why trials are hard for you is the same answer to why you have 4537289472398 armor and no dodge roll and why there are no tank classes.

In POE there is a trinity: damage, defense, speed.

The best defense doesn't use armor and does use dodge roll.

Otherwise you'd see builds that aren't warrior centric that path over to get all the armor nodes/buffs they can. Just like warrior centric builds DO path over to get ES nodes.

The highest effective hitpoint pool in the game is using energy shield + grim feast.

The highest mitigations in the game involve evasion + spirit skills + dodge all effects (far better than block + block all effects).

the highest recovery involves converting ES into mana pool and recouping mana on damage taken.

Armor is great for taking lots of hits from lots of mobs and reducing how much you're stunned. But know what's better than that? Clearing the screen of mobs while never being near anything.

Further, armor only protects against physical damage. nobody is dying to physical damage.

[mrtisserantdavid]

I have a lvl 75 warrior shield spec warbringer i have done trial with many lvl difference and it's working (and i do that before the patch of the trial, so it's possible^^).

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by mrtisserantdavid:

I have a lvl 75 warrior shield spec warbringer i have done trial with many lvl difference and it's working (and i do that before the patch of the trial, so it's possible^^).

same here!

and then i did all 4 trials at level 65 on my undergeared stormweaver without taking damage.

[Catalyst]

Originally posted by Imperium:

Give me this, go into the next trial challange with relics that combine to 75% Honor resistance, this could be achieved with 4-5 basic relics.

For your other stats you can go for life or more honor, but you wont need it, with 75% honor resist most things will be scratches.

Important relic to keep your self winning - See more rooms effect, basically lets u see 2-3 rooms ahead so u can choose the most optimal path without afflictions.

Thats it. You won, this is fail proof strategy for any class.

thanks for the tips. anywhere i should be looking for relics? i only got two after i failed my first attempt, and then my next two tries didn't give me anything more. do they just drop from regular stuff now that i have trials unlocked? or do i have to power my way through stage one and hope that gets me more?