Only boring league mechanics???

[niaerniopawrjnko]

Why did GGG choose to only give us the most boring league mechanics? Breach, delirium and ritual are all super basic and boring, just kill everything on screen as fast as possible ans completely goes against the philosophy of PoE 2 being a much slower game. Also expedition is just an unrewarding waste of time for some reason???

Where is blight, betrayal, heist, delve, etc... ♥♥♥♥ that actually brings some variety instead of just mindlessly running maps???

[Fluffy Bunny of Despair]

Originally posted by kadlore:

This is an early access, come on, you payed for it, that's show enough cognitiv capacities to understand what early access mean.

More league, skills, class will come. It's a game that even in full release will continue to evolve over years.

POE1 at the first time it was available was for sure a lot less good than POE2 now

i mean ...
they posted old screenshots of PoE 1.

I have no idea how people can judge poe2s early access as a bad game xD compared to what it was back then.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/445682

[Shajirr]

Breach really sucks as a game mechanic since its just a monster spam that you have to DPS race against, which pretty much goes directly against the idea of PoE2.

But what's worse is that its also the best way to get max value out of a map.

So you have the combination of the worst map mechanic being the best way to optimise getting max value out of a map.......

[Mordy]

I was genuinely surprised they left out Blight, as thought that was such an easy add to keep people busy but maybe it's coming later, somewhere down the road along with other missing older league systems.

[niaerniopawrjnko]

Originally posted by Shajirr:

Breach really sucks as a game mechanic since its just a monster spam that you have to DPS race against, which pretty much goes directly against the idea of PoE2.

But what's worse is that its also the best way to get max value out of a map.

So you have the combination of the worst map mechanic being the best way to optimise getting max value out of a map.......

A mechanic like breach is either trash or broken, no in-between, how GGG hasnt realized this blows my mind

[否]

Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:

Originally posted by tolshortte:

mostly because there are plenty of players willing to carry the water for GGG at this point. makes excuses for bad choices, and write all the flaws off as EA, which is stupid.

im not even sure the slow more deliberate playstyle the game was sold on is still a goal. seriously.

5 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT BTW.

welp they say, give the dev time like 1 year and when full release it will be different game...

???

5 years just for a copy paste product from POE1 and they say 1 year to became different games?

i cant understand the timeline

why not just make different game from that 5 years?

[Paroe]

Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:

Originally posted by Shajirr:

Breach really sucks as a game mechanic since its just a monster spam that you have to DPS race against, which pretty much goes directly against the idea of PoE2.

But what's worse is that its also the best way to get max value out of a map.

So you have the combination of the worst map mechanic being the best way to optimise getting max value out of a map.......

A mechanic like breach is either trash or broken, no in-between, how GGG hasnt realized this blows my mind

Breach is fine i think. Its a couple extra rares per map, usually.

People confuse the game being slower with the game should ALWAYS be snails pace and... That isnt and was never the case. GGG doesnt want you to be arse against trash mobs, they want bosses and high-value rares to be threats to play around.

I know i have to play around lighting aura mana drain rares as casters, because i cant get in melee range without being touched; I dont have to play around molten armor or corpse explosion rares, though.

[niaerniopawrjnko]

Originally posted by Paroe:

Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:

A mechanic like breach is either trash or broken, no in-between, how GGG hasnt realized this blows my mind

Breach is fine i think. Its a couple extra rares per map, usually.

People confuse the game being slower with the game should ALWAYS be snails pace and... That isnt and was never the case. GGG doesnt want you to be arse against trash mobs, they want bosses and high-value rares to be threats to play around.

I know i have to play around lighting aura mana drain rares as casters, because i cant get in melee range without being touched; I dont have to play around molten armor or corpse explosion rares, though.

Blocked for wasting my time making me read all this nonsense.

[Drake]

Originally posted by 否:

Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:

5 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT BTW.

welp they say, give the dev time like 1 year and when full release it will be different game...

???

5 years just for a copy paste product from POE1 and they say 1 year to became different games?

i cant understand the timeline

why not just make different game from that 5 years?

Concerning the endgame, it's not 5 years. It's 6 months.

The first thing they said is that their original plan was to deliver 6 acts with the EA. But then they realized without an actual endgame they would have issues keeping players in.

So at the last minutes they made the atlas.

Breach, delirium, ritual, expedition and beyond are very easy mechanics to implement.

Don't forget that it's 0.1.1. This is not the final product.

[Paroe]

Originally posted by niaerniopawrjnko:

Originally posted by Paroe:

Breach is fine i think. Its a couple extra rares per map, usually.

People confuse the game being slower with the game should ALWAYS be snails pace and... That isnt and was never the case. GGG doesnt want you to be arse against trash mobs, they want bosses and high-value rares to be threats to play around.

I know i have to play around lighting aura mana drain rares as casters, because i cant get in melee range without being touched; I dont have to play around molten armor or corpse explosion rares, though.

Blocked for wasting my time making me read all this nonsense.

Okay chief, good for you i guess?
I didnt know this was EUNE but ill reciprocate:

Reported.

[niaerniopawrjnko]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by 否:

welp they say, give the dev time like 1 year and when full release it will be different game...

???

5 years just for a copy paste product from POE1 and they say 1 year to became different games?

i cant understand the timeline

why not just make different game from that 5 years?

Concerning the endgame, it's not 5 years. It's 6 months.

The first thing they said is that their original plan was to deliver 6 acts with the EA. But then they realized without an actual endgame they would have issues keeping players in.

So at the last minutes they made the atlas.

Breach, delirium, ritual, expedition and beyond are very easy mechanics to implement.

Don't forget that it's 0.1.1. This is not the final product.

People like you are the reason gaming is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash. Keep defending incompetent devs, I bet you were also defending lake of Kalandra??

[Cvxbio]

I find It kinda funny that a lot of you guys say "It goes against PoE 2" when the games endgame Is faster than the campaign when Jonathan has literally said that It's made like that on purpose.

The only thing he said he regrets Is not making It easier to transition from the campaign Into endgame ( maps ).

You guys vomiting the "It goes against PoE 2" have no Idea what you're talking about, this IS PoE 2s vision and IT IS slower than PoE 1 by far. And this is coming from someone with over 720 hours In the game already and everything completely done.

The game Isn't changing In the way you want It to because It was never Intended to stay In the campaign pace forever, people seem to forget that this is Path of Exile not Diablo 2.

The game has always been about finding the most broken and busted things to play around with for fun and keks, which Is also why they are against nerfing builds mid leagues.

If you don't enjoy the game now then quit, It's not gonna change, Infact, It's only going to get faster MUCH faster. Just wait until the full game releases and we get more league mechanics ontop of what we already got for even easier access to top end items.

[niaerniopawrjnko]

Originally posted by Cvxbio:

I find It kinda funny that a lot of you guys say "It goes against PoE 2" when the games endgame Is faster than the campaign when Jonathan has literally said that It's made like that on purpose.

The only thing he said he regrets Is not making It easier to transition from the campaign Into endgame ( maps ).

You guys vomiting the "It goes against PoE 2" have no Idea what you're talking about, this IS PoE 2s vision and IT IS slower than PoE 1 by far. And this is coming from someone with over 720 hours In the game already and everything completely done.

The game Isn't changing In the way you want It to because It was never Intended to stay In the campaign pace forever, people seem to forget that this is Path of Exile not Diablo 2.

The game has always been about finding the most broken and busted things to play around with for fun and keks, which Is also why they are against nerfing builds mid leagues.

If you don't enjoy the game now then quit, It's not gonna change, Infact, It's only going to get faster MUCH faster. Just wait until the full game releases and we get more league mechanics ontop of what we already got for even easier access to top end items.

Anime profile picture, opinion dismissed. Blocked

[RawMeatDiet]

I want Blight. And Heist.

[Fluffy Bunny of Despair]

Originally posted by Cvxbio:

I find It kinda funny that a lot of you guys say "It goes against PoE 2" when the games endgame Is faster than the campaign when Jonathan has literally said that It's made like that on purpose.

The only thing he said he regrets Is not making It easier to transition from the campaign Into endgame ( maps ).

You guys vomiting the "It goes against PoE 2" have no Idea what you're talking about, this IS PoE 2s vision and IT IS slower than PoE 1 by far. And this is coming from someone with over 720 hours In the game already and everything completely done.

The game Isn't changing In the way you want It to because It was never Intended to stay In the campaign pace forever, people seem to forget that this is Path of Exile not Diablo 2.

The game has always been about finding the most broken and busted things to play around with for fun and keks, which Is also why they are against nerfing builds mid leagues.

If you don't enjoy the game now then quit, It's not gonna change, Infact, It's only going to get faster MUCH faster. Just wait until the full game releases and we get more league mechanics ontop of what we already got for even easier access to top end items.

They also said they want pinnacle fights to be 60 - 90 seconds. Clearly showing that currently, we do way to much damage ^^

[否]

Originally posted by Cvxbio:

I find It kinda funny that a lot of you guys say "It goes against PoE 2" when the games endgame Is faster than the campaign when Jonathan has literally said that It's made like that on purpose.

The only thing he said he regrets Is not making It easier to transition from the campaign Into endgame ( maps ).

You guys vomiting the "It goes against PoE 2" have no Idea what you're talking about, this IS PoE 2s vision and IT IS slower than PoE 1 by far. And this is coming from someone with over 720 hours In the game already and everything completely done.

The game Isn't changing In the way you want It to because It was never Intended to stay In the campaign pace forever, people seem to forget that this is Path of Exile not Diablo 2.

The game has always been about finding the most broken and busted things to play around with for fun and keks, which Is also why they are against nerfing builds mid leagues.

If you don't enjoy the game now then quit, It's not gonna change, Infact, It's only going to get faster MUCH faster. Just wait until the full game releases and we get more league mechanics ontop of what we already got for even easier access to top end items.

POE2 = POE1+1

ty have a nice day