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Melf Jan 24 @ 5:43pm
Magic find broken?
I just dont get how 3 juiced towers for a single map, a map with another magic find bonus + character geared to the max in mf for a total of over 700% magic find gets me 3 exalted and garbage oranges and another character with 0 magic find on a basic t15 map gets me 2 divines....what am i getting wrong here?
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Plum Jan 24 @ 5:45pm 
Are you high or do you just not understand the basic concept of odds? 700% chance DOES NOT = guarantee. it equals 700% chance. smh.
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KillJoy Jan 24 @ 5:51pm 
I think what the OP is saying, is what is the point of 700% magic find if a character with 0% can get more.

And he has a point.
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Plum Jan 24 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by KillJoy:
I think what the OP is saying, is what is the point of 700% magic find if a character with 0% can get more.

And he has a point.
He does not have a point at all. Odds =/= guarantee it is common knowledge that you can get more or less with either with 0 sample size.
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Tom Jan 24 @ 5:57pm 
either unlucky or stacking item find so much its actually glitching the system into giving you less
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Dracael Jan 24 @ 5:58pm 
I hit this wall very early for the same results.. Just gave up sacrificing an affix that gave me more power or survival over Stupid MF.. Like the above poster said unfortunately.. 700% of sweet FA is still sweet FA lol.. And TBH my drops are just like you say.. 'seemingly' better for it.. Anti-intuitive but it is what it is!.
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Plum Jan 24 @ 6:02pm 
I drop a divine every other map with 150 mf. you need to juice the content you are doing as well. common knowledge.
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KillJoy Jan 24 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by Arxya:
Originally posted by KillJoy:
I think what the OP is saying, is what is the point of 700% magic find if a character with 0% can get more.

And he has a point.
He does not have a point at all. Odds =/= guarantee it is common knowledge that you can get more or less with either with 0 sample size.

It has nothing to do with odds. 700% increases your magic find by 700%. The odds of finding a magic item have nothing to do with the increase.
Casino's would love for you to go visit them...
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Plum Jan 24 @ 6:06pm 
Originally posted by KillJoy:
Originally posted by Arxya:
He does not have a point at all. Odds =/= guarantee it is common knowledge that you can get more or less with either with 0 sample size.

It has nothing to do with odds. 700% increases your magic find by 700%. The odds of finding a magic item have nothing to do with the increase.
Casino's would love for you to go visit them...

What do you think a % increase in a chance outcome occurring is called? This is a +/- to the odds. Open a book learn some math.
Last edited by Plum; Jan 24 @ 6:06pm
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Dracael Jan 24 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by Arxya:
I drop a divine every other map with 150 mf. you need to juice the content you are doing as well. common knowledge.
I instead started focussing on item quant rather than rarity. I probably get natty Div drops (as opposed to projected profits) every dozen or so maps.., but usually drops in bundles of 2 or more.. And i think the most my current char has in MF is like 12% by chance of one piece of archaic levelling gear...
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KillJoy Jan 24 @ 6:10pm 
odds: ratio of the probability that an event will happen to the probability that it will not happen.

chance: the level of possibility that something will happen.

With 700% MF your chance is supposed to go up 7 times. Your odds still stay the same.
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Plum Jan 24 @ 6:12pm 
Originally posted by KillJoy:
odds: ratio of the probability that an event will happen to the probability that it will not happen.

chance: the level of possibility that something will happen.

With 700% MF your chance is supposed to go up 7 times. Your odds still stay the same.

That is not how poe works in the slightest you must be new here. 50% mf =100% increase 200% mf = 75% increase and so on. Open a book learn some math learn the odds it is all there for you to learn.

Even if 10000000% mf = 0.000000000001% increased chance. It is still increasing the odds. Dictionaries would be useful for you.
Last edited by Plum; Jan 24 @ 6:16pm
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KillJoy Jan 24 @ 6:14pm 
Originally posted by Arxya:
Originally posted by KillJoy:
odds: ratio of the probability that an event will happen to the probability that it will not happen.

chance: the level of possibility that something will happen.

With 700% MF your chance is supposed to go up 7 times. Your odds still stay the same.

That is not how poe works in the slightest you must be new here. 50% mf =100% increase 200% mf = 75% increase and so on. Open a book learn some math learn the odds it is all there for you to learn.

Increase in what? odds or chance?
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Plum Jan 24 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by KillJoy:
Originally posted by Arxya:

That is not how poe works in the slightest you must be new here. 50% mf =100% increase 200% mf = 75% increase and so on. Open a book learn some math learn the odds it is all there for you to learn.

Increase in what? odds or chance?

Both. The increased odds are the result of an increased chance- open a book learn some words.

The increased chance results in increased odds.

Read it anyway you like.
Last edited by Plum; Jan 24 @ 6:17pm
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drakesrage Jan 24 @ 6:21pm 
No you don't get 700% MF there is severe diminishing returns after 100% so if 1 character had almost 100% MF just from random stats on gear and your other character had 700% MF odds are the 100% would out farm the 700% MF due to kill speed since the 100% is not really sacrificing any stats
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KillJoy Jan 24 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by Arxya:
Originally posted by KillJoy:

Increase in what? odds or chance?

Both. The increased odds are the result of an increased chance- open a book learn some words.

The increased chance results in increased odds.

Read it anyway you like.

Odds and chance are not the same thing. That is why I mentioned casino's before. While you might be able to increase your chances of winning, the odds are set so the casino always makes a profit.

That is why casino's always make money, because they control the odds while you believe your control of the chance is going to give you the upper hand against the casino.

Blackjack: has a chance of winning of approximately 49% and odds of 1:1
Roulette: has a chance of winning of approximately 47.3% in American Roulette and 48.7% in European Roulette, with odds of 1:1 for even money bets
Baccarat: has a chance of winning of approximately 49.47% for the banker’s hand, with payout odds of 19:20 and a house edge of around 1.06%
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