Is it SSF viable ?

[Failord]

Hello, fellow exiles. I've played quite a lot on my two chars: get warrior to stable grind on t7-8 maps and get witch to endgame. Now I'd like to give ranger a shot, and I want it to be ssf, cause neverending discussions about prices in global chat insults me. I want more grim dawn or titan quest experience, not a trade sim
So, here comes the question: is it possible to play ssf ? I doubt because Ioot I get as warrior looks like crap and my crafting attemps... let's name it pathetic

[NaRf]

Yes it is.... Not sure why you even need to ask.

[Fluffy Newfoundland]

Originally posted by Spaced:

Yes it is.... Not sure why you even need to ask.

Because pretty much all threads here are about "Loot drop are awfull ! If you don't trade, YOU ARE DONE !"

So yeah, kindda need to ask.

[NaRf]

Originally posted by Fluffy Newfoundland:

Originally posted by Spaced:

Yes it is.... Not sure why you even need to ask.

Because pretty much all threads here are about "Loot drop are awfull ! If you don't trade, YOU ARE DONE !"

So yeah, kindda need to ask.

No they don't. People reading threads like those and believing so, is a them issue.

[Fluffy Bunny of Despair]

Originally posted by Fluffy Newfoundland:

Originally posted by Spaced:

Yes it is.... Not sure why you even need to ask.

Because pretty much all threads here are about "Loot drop are awfull ! If you don't trade, YOU ARE DONE !"

So yeah, kindda need to ask.

Yeah but most people are kinda stupid when it comes to gaming.
So they have no idea what they are talking about ^^

SSF is perfectly viable.

https://pathofexile2.com/ladders

As you can see over 1000 people have made it to level 94+

[ex_IllusionisT]

Originally posted by Failord:

Hello, fellow exiles. I've played quite a lot on my two chars: get warrior to stable grind on t7-8 maps and get witch to endgame. Now I'd like to give ranger a shot, and I want it to be ssf, cause neverending discussions about prices in global chat insults me. I want more grim dawn or titan quest experience, not a trade sim
So, here comes the question: is it possible to play ssf ? I doubt because Ioot I get as warrior looks like crap and my crafting attemps... let's name it pathetic

It's not only possible, it's preferable.
Stop wasting time on trade.

On your first attempt it will be hard, yes. But after you get going and reach maps, you'll have enough currency to craft and do your thing.

You'll learn more by making something out of the things you have, and then farm for actual loot you need.

Don't just go in SSF, go to HC SSF. Completely different experience. No more careless bs. You're more selective, frugal, each item you get is a hype, you constantly check for vendor gear.

Then you get to maps and things change dramatically.

[Baron01]

Looking at ladders is perfect illustration of how delusional people can be at trying to make their point. People in the ladder are not representative of majority of the player population, ever.
Ask yourself these questions:
Do you have 100s and 100s of hours to dump into the game? Do you enjoy grinding content way below your potential ad nauseum just because you do not get "right" drops? Do you plan to play meta skill or something more niche?

Yes, the game is SSF viable. I'm not sure the game would be fun in a long run though. It all depends on what you are looking for.

Lastly, you can play in a trade league and not trade, or keep it to minimum. Noone is forcing you to trade, buy or sell your stuff. I stopped playing in SSF long time ago in my PoE1 history and played in trade leagues without actual trading just in case I changed my mind.

[Fluffy Bunny of Despair]

Originally posted by Baron01:

Looking at ladders is perfect illustration of how delusional people can be at trying to make their point. People in the ladder are not representative of majority of the player population, ever.
Ask yourself these questions:
Do you have 100s and 100s of hours to dump into the game? Do you enjoy grinding content way below your potential ad nauseum just because you do not get "right" drops? Do you plan to play meta skill or something more niche?

Yes, the game is SSF viable. I'm not sure the game would be fun in a long run though. It all depends on what you are looking for.

Lastly, you can play in a trade league and not trade, or keep it to minimum. Noone is forcing you to trade, buy or sell your stuff. I stopped playing in SSF long time ago in my PoE1 history and played in trade leagues without actual trading just in case I changed my mind.

Sorry but i am not sure what you are talking about. The only difference on people on the ladder and people not on the ladder is simply the fact on how much time they spend. You can still be a good player and not drop 100 hours per week into a game :3

Maybe just because you can't manage to get through SSF without dumping 400 hours into a char doesn't mean everyone is on that level.

And i hate this "do you plan to make a meta build or not" nonsense. It doesn't matter if you build is meta or not. If you play a bad build you will have a harder time. Doesn't need to be meta... simply good. But i fully understand that you do not know the difference.

And just because you can't see the enjoyment on making your own gear doesn't mean everyone does. Luckily, people are different.

[ex_IllusionisT]

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny of Despair:

Sorry but i am not sure what you are talking about. The only difference on people on the ladder and people not on the ladder is simply the fact on how much time they spend. You can still be a good player and not drop 100 hours per week into a game :3

Maybe just because you can't manage to get through SSF without dumping 400 hours into a char doesn't mean everyone is on that level.

I both agree and disagree with this.

Time spent =/ ladder.
It helps... but it's not a direct "Unless you spend x amount of time you won't get to ladder."

But your second paragraph is on point.

[Dwane Dibbley]

Its viable, its just harder to get intobgidmode without trading.

Crafting is long run rng-gambling atm.

1/ You have to look for good base (might be worth to learn abit about loot filters and write in few lines to highlight bases for your class/build).

2/ ID bases and throw 95% away cuz it has ♥♥♥♥/low tier affixes

3/ slam regs/ex on good one

4/ trow 99% away cuz you gambled bad affixes

5/ wear good lucky craft or slam it with chaos if you feels like you want more gambling and item still has one crap affix. Might be worthy using omen to guaranteed reroll of lowest tier affix (wont work in many cases whe good afix you want to keep has only few tiers).

[Baron01]

Originally posted by Fluffy Bunny of Despair:

Sorry but i am not sure what you are talking about. The only difference on people on the ladder and people not on the ladder is simply the fact on how much time they spend. You can still be a good player and not drop 100 hours per week into a game :3

Maybe just because you can't manage to get through SSF without dumping 400 hours into a char doesn't mean everyone is on that level.

And i hate this "do you plan to make a meta build or not" nonsense. It doesn't matter if you build is meta or not. If you play a bad build you will have a harder time. Doesn't need to be meta... simply good. But i fully understand that you do not know the difference.

And just because you can't see the enjoyment on making your own gear doesn't mean everyone does. Luckily, people are different.

It is fine to have reading comprehension issue. It is also good to seek help to deal with the issue rather than waste your time on online forums.

You have suggested ladder to be a good measure of how viable the game's SSF mode is. I merely commented that unless you can dump countless hours into the game, ladder is completely useless as a representation of anything.

There is massive difference between using meta skill and something like Heavy Strike from PoE1 as your main skill. You are reliant on your ability to kill things fast and in huge quantities because you need drops, be it currency to craft or rare items to get your upgrades. So yes, if you are serious about SSF you should ask yourself what skill you want to use and consider how good it is at the main goal of the game, aka kill things.

Where in the world you got the idea you are not creating your gear in a trade league? I craft your gear in the same way as in SSF, it just involves more careful determination what you craft, on what base item and with what currency. SSF is much easier in this aspect as you just dump your currency as needed without a need to consider what you can buy for such currency. I crafted my most valuable items I sold myself, it was still RNG and way too late for me to be useful to me but I still did it.

Again, SSF is viable but as GGG stated, the game was never designed with SSF in mind and you do it at your own peril. I value my time too much to waste it playing SSF but you do you.

[Rogue]

Viable? Of course.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Fluffy Newfoundland:

Originally posted by Spaced:

Yes it is.... Not sure why you even need to ask.

Because pretty much all threads here are about "Loot drop are awfull ! If you don't trade, YOU ARE DONE !"

So yeah, kindda need to ask.

Because people are looking for instant gratification. They probably came from Diablo 4 where drops were plenty and you never had to worry.

Trading is just 10 times easier because you can target what you need and it'll exist. Therefore you can get it. Grinding to get what you want requires more time.

[Salmon Snake]

Originally posted by Baron01:

Looking at ladders is perfect illustration of how delusional people can be at trying to make their point. People in the ladder are not representative of majority of the player population, ever.
Ask yourself these questions:
Do you have 100s and 100s of hours to dump into the game? Do you enjoy grinding content way below your potential ad nauseum just because you do not get "right" drops? Do you plan to play meta skill or something more niche?

Yes, the game is SSF viable. I'm not sure the game would be fun in a long run though. It all depends on what you are looking for.

Lastly, you can play in a trade league and not trade, or keep it to minimum. Noone is forcing you to trade, buy or sell your stuff. I stopped playing in SSF long time ago in my PoE1 history and played in trade leagues without actual trading just in case I changed my mind.

Majority of people are too dumb to figure out game mechanics or how to get more of what they want because veryone is just looking at guides since they started gaming. The critical thinking in younger generation is completely lost.

[Fluffy Newfoundland]

Originally posted by Salmon Snake:

Originally posted by Baron01:

Looking at ladders is perfect illustration of how delusional people can be at trying to make their point. People in the ladder are not representative of majority of the player population, ever.
Ask yourself these questions:
Do you have 100s and 100s of hours to dump into the game? Do you enjoy grinding content way below your potential ad nauseum just because you do not get "right" drops? Do you plan to play meta skill or something more niche?

Yes, the game is SSF viable. I'm not sure the game would be fun in a long run though. It all depends on what you are looking for.

Lastly, you can play in a trade league and not trade, or keep it to minimum. Noone is forcing you to trade, buy or sell your stuff. I stopped playing in SSF long time ago in my PoE1 history and played in trade leagues without actual trading just in case I changed my mind.

Majority of people are too dumb to figure out game mechanics or how to get more of what they want because veryone is just looking at guides since they started gaming. The critical thinking in younger generation is completely lost.

Sorry TLDR, can you make a 30s vids on Tik Tok so i can understand ? Thanks.

[Fluffy Newfoundland]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Originally posted by Fluffy Newfoundland:

Because pretty much all threads here are about "Loot drop are awfull ! If you don't trade, YOU ARE DONE !"

So yeah, kindda need to ask.

Because people are looking for instant gratification. They probably came from Diablo 4 where drops were plenty and you never had to worry.

Trading is just 10 times easier because you can target what you need and it'll exist. Therefore you can get it. Grinding to get what you want requires more time.

This. The loot drops on D4 is insane, in September played 110 hours for free thanks to a free gamepass promo, got like half and almost all of my Necromancer BiS. And the builds are so easy to make, you don't even need to look up guide online.

D4 is the most mid game i've ever played in my life. Nothing memorable, boring campaign, 5/10 of a game.