Trading - how?

[Kurdain]

I've been playing all morning.
I've messaged 8 players about purchasing a couple items via poe2 trade website (whisper in game)
1 doubled the price immediately after my whisper - never did reply
3 went perma AFK apparently
4 have cycled between AFK and Active, whisper ignored - follow-up whisper ignored as well.

This isn't the first time either, I've tried on other days to purchase a couple low level items.

I have yet to be able to trade with a single player despite multiple attempts.

Can we just get a real auction house type set-up or allow people to see and trade directly with the sellers public trade stash tab?

I'm hesitant to start maps while waiting because I know as soon as I do I'll finally get a reply (probably not).

[Nico]

The problem with trying to purchase low value items is often that players consider the value too low to stop doing what they're doing right now. With high value items worth at least 1 divine most people usually answer. And it is quite rare for people to answer if over a minute has already passed (though it still hapens sometimes). And I mean, since you don't need all 6 portals anyways it shouldn't be much of a problem to just leave the map to purchase something.

One thing that might help is using the live search, so you get to see any new trade listings immediately, since for those it's more likely that they will actually sell it to you. Even though it sometimes causes them to relist their item for a higher price.

And for items that are sold constantly you might also just be too late and it was already sold. Though that's mostly currency, so now with the currency exchange that's less of a problem than it used to be back in PoE1.

[Piggy]

sometimes its like that and its super frustrating but its not all the time and you can sell very fast. I was struggling at this game until i found how to trade and now Im lvl 89 and my gear is looking good. Found a wand on trade last night, very cheap and now my dps is 42k+.

I highly recommend trading, gear drops can be good but not often enough and theres always a dead stat or two....trade gets yop exactly what u want.

[robruckus65]

Wish they would just put in a system to flat out buy an item from a player instead of having to go and trade with them. It would solve the issue of people not being bothered for a few exalts.

[Piggy]

Originally posted by robruckus65:

Wish they would just put in a system to flat out buy an item from a player instead of having to go and trade with them. It would solve the issue of people not being bothered for a few exalts.

You mean spam in trade chat for hours to find an item?

[Piggy]

What they have now is super fast, requires no communication, in and out.... the old way was filtering through chat systems with people spamming everything all at once, filled with chinese ads to buy hacked currencies.....

[robruckus65]

Originally posted by Piggy:

Originally posted by robruckus65:

Wish they would just put in a system to flat out buy an item from a player instead of having to go and trade with them. It would solve the issue of people not being bothered for a few exalts.

You mean spam in trade chat for hours to find an item?

No I mean like an ah or trading npc where you can just click on something listed and buy it outright instead of this weird tab out of the game search a website and have it whisper people for you in game hope someone sends an invite system. It is a terrible system for a game that is official. IT would be a cool tool if it was something fanmade for a game with a system like something you said but for the devs to use something like this is absurd.

[Kurdain]

Well today was the everlasting gaze, I gave up for now.

[Kurdain]

4 more tries. :D
1 dude tripled the price after PM'd (it was listed for 1 minute so maybe he screwed up listing it?)
Another x10 the price after PM'd (same deal was up only a couple minutes)
1 is still afk
1 guy actually replied, said it was sold. I thanked him for his reply.

Progress!?!

Please just incorporate a market.

[SharkPlush]

The inconvenience also inconveniences those who would ruin the game for us were it not so inconvenient, basically

I buy 1ex leveling items all day and it goes down smoothly.

I think you might be dealing with bots or chinese seller types. Filter your listing so it only shows items listed in the last few hours and you'll encounter more players who are actually online and trying to trade. Also, lower you standards a little, you don't need ever stat to hit on your build during the campaign.

[SharkPlush]

There's a history of what you're asking for in games (in this genre and in MMO's in general) - and it's bad. The developers could explain better but there's definitely a unique culture in POE around trading that other game haven't been able to replicate- except the ones that similarly fragment their market or break up the trade process.

ESO's guild traders come to my mind: they are physically scattered throughout the overworld, and and require player bids to maintain. Guilds can steal each other's vendor spaces, nobody can monitor the market and abuse it. That design wouldn't work for POE though, there's not enough overworld and too many guilds.

[robruckus65]

Originally posted by SharkPlush:

There's a history of what you're asking for in games (in this genre and in MMO's in general) - and it's bad. The developers could explain better but there's definitely a unique culture in POE around trading that other game haven't been able to replicate- except the ones that similarly fragment their market or break up the trade process.

ESO's guild traders come to my mind: they are physically scattered throughout the overworld, and and require player bids to maintain. Guilds can steal each other's vendor spaces, nobody can monitor the market and abuse it. That design wouldn't work for POE though, there's not enough overworld and too many guilds.

The current trade system is just as abuseable as an ah would be. But it comes with more benefits than bad. 1 it protects from scammers, 2 it would allow for people to put stuff up for sale and actually play the game instead of having to constantly go back to hideout to trade, 3 a straight buyout button would end the people starting low and increasing price over and over as a price check.

[Ducky]

Originally posted by robruckus65:

Originally posted by Piggy:

You mean spam in trade chat for hours to find an item?

No I mean like an ah or trading npc where you can just click on something listed and buy it outright instead of this weird tab out of the game search a website and have it whisper people for you in game hope someone sends an invite system. It is a terrible system for a game that is official. IT would be a cool tool if it was something fanmade for a game with a system like something you said but for the devs to use something like this is absurd.

alot of peoples dont want something like that because that are those peoples you mentioned....thats why we dont get an in game ah or something like that