Sekhema challenge sucks !

[FUUKamikazeFUU]

I really love the game. But the challenges for sekhema for 5,6 points is just a rng mess. Its pure frustration right now. And for all those "pros" that will write that it is easy, i dont trade cause the trading is also absolut ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for a 2024 game (even in ea), so I only have the crap i found, craft or buy from the npc-traders. The debuffs are broken. Why to hide essential skillpoints behind such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-lottery, i dont get it.

[Drosta]

There's an element of RNG as well. But it's also a strategic minigame. Look ahead at what's coming and try to plan a path to avoid bad afflictions or pick up boons. It's not that bad.

[Havok]

Yea, so long as you get +1 door visibility and don't get red smoke which hide afflictions, it isn't too bad so long as you are careful with your debuffs. However, I personally felt that Chaos was easier for 4th ascension. Not really sure why, but I had a much easier time and got it on the first attempt, even with terrible debuffs from chaos.

I will admit, I did it at level 90 on the lowest possible level floor, which is.. 75 I think? and it was a breeze. If you can steamroll T15+ maps, you can ascend no problem.

[Nefser]

Yes, but perhaps not sucks horribly, but isn't 'fun' to do (for many people). I ended up ignoring them for quite a while (just had an extra level or two from where I might have done stuff), and then did the first for each for 4 points. Was enough to get me through the campaign on my minion witch and all the others are moving through Cruel acts without much hassle.

Can't fathom having to do all the trials of each on 4-5 other characters. Nope, not till they're tweaked a bit by GGG.

[f.i.q]

do not look forward for the 7th and 8th.

I just gave up on it. Still getting all honour cheesed away and then reaching the trial master... just puts my monk right into a corner like a little boy that has just upgraded all his gear with all his divine orbs

I am not touching these trials till they make them doable for noobs/people with trash rng...
1 run cost me around 45min... tried 4 times in a row... realised I wasted 3 hours for absolute nothing..

I can do t16 and t17 maps anyways... so why bother for the last 2 ascension points.. makes no sense to me

[Nefser]

I really don't understand why people are forcing themselves to play certain aspects of this game AS-IS (i.e., NOW) when this is EA and it'll take time for them to tweak and agree what is in the game, does it work or do things need to be adjusted.

So, I just personally opted out/deferred the issue and will wait to see what happens. No point in getting frustrated, when you can go and finish the campaign and get into maps without them.

[Drosta]

Originally posted by massiveChillz:

do not look forward for the 7th and 8th.

I just gave up on it. Still getting all honour cheesed away and then reaching the trial master... just puts my monk right into a corner like a little boy that has just upgraded all his gear with all his divine orbs

I am not touching these trials till they make them doable for noobs/people with trash rng...
1 run cost me around 45min... tried 4 times in a row... realised I wasted 3 hours for absolute nothing..

I can do t16 and t17 maps anyways... so why bother for the last 2 ascension points.. makes no sense to me

I tend toward agreement that they ought to have checkpoints simply because they are long. Even the 10% XP loss people cry about at end game isn't as punishing as having to re-do the entire 4 floor trial. Until you're like well into 90s anyway. But I wouldn't hold.your breath on them making big changes to allow bad builds or clueless noobs to be able to walk through them. They're trials. And they're supposed to gear/skill check you. Along with the reward feeling good for achieving it. Especially since they're already pretty easy.

[Crow Buddy]

Even if you equip awesome relics that let you see several rooms ahead, the minor afflictions can pile on, and can nerf whatever advantage you had. That seems a bit much.

One of the issues is that you can be cautious, experienced, over-leveled and over-geared, but sometimes the RNG of the room choices will force you into a lethal room which ends the run.

The player must select that run-ending room, or you can't advance forward. I mean, we're in EA, so this is why we share the feedback now.

In those cases, I used to fight to the death, or try to squeak out a miracle victory, but now that I lose experience on death at high level, it's not worth it. I just leave and restart.

I can melt the rares and bosses at this point, but it's all the obstacles, traps, enemies springing out of the floor, the ground effects, the stuff in between which slowly drains my honour gauge. There's also a few enemies that have wildly high honour damage, and before you know it, half your honour is gone.

"Minor afflictions" should be reworked entirely. Too many "minor" labeled ones are definitely major ones, it's misleading and overly punishing. A player can stack too many of them and it'll end the run, like, guaranteed.

[Sycler]

Honor system is so stupid. I will die on this hill.. Its a terrible mechanic that negates play styles. If we got numerous attempts without losing keys it would still be terrible.

It should never fail you. In stead it should be a loot multiplier.

I.E: You finish with X amount of honor that turns into X amount of more/quality drops.

[Vin]

Originally posted by Specter Deck:

Honor system is so stupid. I will die on this hill.. Its a terrible mechanic that negates play styles. If we got numerous attempts without losing keys it would still be terrible.

It should never fail you. In stead it should be a loot multiplier.

I.E: You finish with X amount of honor that turns into X amount of more/quality drops.

there is no hill to die on. they took one of the worst activities from the first game and made it the ascendancy trial.

who actually played sanctum? id like to know.

Edit: even the chaos trial in the first game was better. nothing but extentions (padding)

[HunApo]

Originally posted by Vin:

who actually played sanctum? id like to know.

Real question is, who didn't play sanctum? Hint: all the poor people
Before the last nerf, it was a money printing machine, that needed next to nothing gear wise and earning a ton of raw divines + sextants that the hideout warriors loved to buy in huge bulks. I was watching netflix on my 2nd screen while making hundreds of divines from sanctum.
And sanctum in PoE1 was a lot harder than here.

[Millertyme]

Originally posted by FUUKamikazeFUU:

I really love the game. But the challenges for sekhema for 5,6 points is just a rng mess. Its pure frustration right now. And for all those "pros" that will write that it is easy, i dont trade cause the trading is also absolut ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for a 2024 game (even in ea), so I only have the crap i found, craft or buy from the npc-traders. The debuffs are broken. Why to hide essential skillpoints behind such ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥-lottery, i dont get it.

Stopping taking rooms with the worst possible debuffs, stop taking debuffs. Get boons. Get Honor resistance/ honor cap increase (or whatever its called) relics. I can constantly beat floor 1 without being hit. By the time I'm finished the 2nd floor I have collected enough water to buy all the good boons in the game. By the time I'm finished floor 3 I have everything I need and usually sitting around 4500-5500 honor range to start floor 4 (melee)
I didnt kill the last boss yet tho, I ran into mana issues and arena was a mess. I have an easy fix for that, so I'll smash this boss today

[Angious_]

HONOUR SYSTEM is not stupid, its like a rogue like game, die and retry, now i can get hit billion of times with relics having max honour and honour resists u can't fail, it"s also fun to run it with 170% movement with queen of the forest chest i love it.

[Crow Buddy]

As an Evasion Deadeye, I had a trial run where I was forced into getting a combo of afflictions:

-Worn Sandals: 25% Reduced Movement Speed.
-Sharpened Arrowhead / Iron Manacles: You have no Armour / no Evasion.
-Tattered Blindfold: 90% reduced Light Radius and Minimap is hidden. (makes the rooms a true slog, imo)

Is that increased game difficulty, or is it just straight up annoying and obnoxious?

There's too many run-ending combos of afflictions at the moment, and they pile on too quickly without a way to purge or manage them. I think GGG starts there, rework the entire affliction/boon/honour system and dial it in more. Again, we're in EA, this is the time to tune this stuff.

[Millertyme]

Originally posted by HunApo:

Originally posted by Vin:

who actually played sanctum? id like to know.

Real question is, who didn't play sanctum? Hint: all the poor people
Before the last nerf, it was a money printing machine, that needed next to nothing gear wise and earning a ton of raw divines + sextants that the hideout warriors loved to buy in huge bulks. I was watching netflix on my 2nd screen while making hundreds of divines from sanctum.
And sanctum in PoE1 was a lot harder than here.

PoE 1 sanctum was so hard I hated it. Never got passed floor 1. Was talking to my brother about this. He was shocked that I liked it so much in PoE2 rather then in 1. He is waiting till the launch of PoE2 so he hasn't played it yet but will understand why I like it so much more then in 1 when he finds out how much easier it actually is. Specially the buff they did for when your in melee range of things

[Piggy]

Change your expectations and the frustration goes away. It's ok to die. The great thing about sekamas is there is zero xp loss on death and you can get an insane amount of loot....
Took me several trys to complete all 4 ascendancies and now I run the trials often just for the loot! If its too hard, farm better relics...my 4th ascendancy I went in with 10k honor resis and when i killed the final boss I still had 5k left. Honor resistance, increased max honor and increased boss dmg are king. Also get the boon that gives you speed increase and also have at least 25% movement speed on your boots.....Then its a walk in the park.