Gemcutter's Prism, overwhelming disappointment and loss

[party pooper]

is there a way to know if quality adds to a skill gem or does NOTHING before you use the prism? and why on earth do they let us use said prism on a gem if it does not have ANY affect at all? and a last question why does GGG hate us enuf to do something so heinous in the first place?
EDIT: the gem in question does in fact gain from prism's. It's just not showing up in the tool tips for me. others have shown that the tool tips are working on their end. I may have over reacted as many of us gamer's do in situations like this. I retract my inquiry into whether in fact GGG "hates us" and regret such an emotional response. please feel free to mock me below and hopefully they fix the tool tips in this regard.

[Nox Arcana]

Press alt on your gem and you'll see the description below

[party pooper]

Originally posted by Nox Arcana:

Press alt on your gem and you'll see the description below

ah i see, this must be my issue as i'm using a controller due to a wrist injury.
i mean i click in the right stick "does the same as alt when using KB" but it didn't show anything about quality. i guess i'm expected to log out, relog in using KB, check, log out, then relog back in with controller to get this info.
still leaves the issue of why on earth it would consume the prism and add quality onto a gem that adds nothing to the gem.

[Detergent]

Originally posted by Nox Arcana:

Press alt on your gem and you'll see the description below

This. Always hold alt for more details.

Also, are you sure it does nothing? When holding alt, check the different tabs for the gem.
I remember seeing a gem where quality did nothing to the main part of the skill. But checking the aoe after effect, it was showing that quality increases its aoe.

Edit: Just got on to double check.
Rolling Slam has 3 tabs "Rolling Slam", "First Slam", "Second Slam".
Quality shows as nothing for the first tab "Rolling Slam" but shows it adds daze to the first and second slams.

[JinxTheWorld]

The prism enhances what a skill does in some way. As an example [Spark] would get another projectile. Anyways it's just enhances a specific aspect of the skill gem.

[party pooper]

Originally posted by Detergent:

Originally posted by Nox Arcana:

Press alt on your gem and you'll see the description below

This. Always hold alt for more details.

Also, are you sure it does nothing? When holding alt, check the different tabs for the gem.
I remember seeing a gem where quality did nothing to the main part of the skill. But checking the aoe after effect, it was showing that quality increases its aoe.

i tried on both control setting, KB and controller and nothing changes when looking at Galvantic shards.

[party pooper]

OK so i guess there is in fact a way to check... i guess my main issue is it does nothing for many skill gems and still lets you consume the prism. seems bad feels bad. I guess log this under EA Feedback. it should give a heads up like "are you sure you want to use this prism? it does nothing for this gem" instead of just consuming it.

[Detergent]

Originally posted by party pooper:

Originally posted by Detergent:

This. Always hold alt for more details.

Also, are you sure it does nothing? When holding alt, check the different tabs for the gem.
I remember seeing a gem where quality did nothing to the main part of the skill. But checking the aoe after effect, it was showing that quality increases its aoe.

i tried on both control setting, KB and controller and nothing changes when looking at Galvantic shards.

Quality for this skill adds to the "Ammunition" part of the skill.
"(0-2) bolts loaded per clip"

[party pooper]

Originally posted by Detergent:

Originally posted by party pooper:

i tried on both control setting, KB and controller and nothing changes when looking at Galvantic shards.

Quality for this skill adds "Ammunition" part of the skill.
"(0-2) bolts loaded per clip"

ohh so i need to add a few prism's before i get the first extra bolt? it doesn't show this in the tooltip.

[The_Driver]

Galvanic shards only benefits on multiples of 10%, so single gcps don't influence it. Pairs do.

[party pooper]

Originally posted by The_Driver:

Galvanic shards only benefits on multiples of 10%, so single gcps don't influence it. Pairs do.

Thank you, how did you find this info? alt doesn't show this for me.

[Nico]

Originally posted by party pooper:

Originally posted by Detergent:

Quality for this skill adds "Ammunition" part of the skill.
"(0-2) bolts loaded per clip"

ohh so i need to add a few prism's before i get the first extra bolt? it doesn't show this in the tooltip.

The 0-2 range it shows you is for 0%-20%. And it always rounds down the effect. So you need at least 10%, aka 2 prisms to get +1.

[Nico]

Originally posted by party pooper:

Originally posted by The_Driver:

Galvanic shards only benefits on multiples of 10%, so single gcps don't influence it. Pairs do.

Thank you, how did you find this info? alt doesn't show this for me.

That's weird, usually ALT should show it to you.

[Detergent]

Originally posted by party pooper:

Originally posted by Detergent:

Quality for this skill adds "Ammunition" part of the skill.
"(0-2) bolts loaded per clip"

ohh so i need to add a few prism's before i get the first extra bolt? it doesn't show this in the tooltip.

Do you see the tabs i'm talking about when looking at the skills tooltip?
[Galvanic Shards], [Ammunition], [Projectile], [Beam]. You can click on these tabs to see the details for each part of the skill.
Only the [Ammunition] part gains a bonus for having quality.

[The_Driver]

As I don't have the game open rn I went to poe2db and then saw the integer scaling of 0-2, which is distributed linearly from 0-20 quality. As it's integer, there are no .5 values.

[party pooper]

Originally posted by Detergent:

Originally posted by party pooper:

ohh so i need to add a few prism's before i get the first extra bolt? it doesn't show this in the tooltip.

Do you see the tabs i'm talking about when looking at the skills tooltip?
[Galvanic Shards], [Ammunition], [Projectile], [Beam]. You can click on these tabs to see the details for each part of the skill.
Only the [Ammunition] part gains a bonus for having quality.

no, but i i press alt on other gems like exlosive shot it shows it. i added another prism to my GS and it did in fact add a 6th bolt to my clip so im actually glad as this is pretty useful. alt doesn't show the added bolt still.