This Is Early Access Right?

[Ghardan69]

I get the feeling that maybe some players either don't realize this is a game still in development or they just don't understand what early Access is , I mean there could come a time where a large chunk of content could be scrapped , not likely but possible , to say people's time isn't respected and GGG just threw an unfinished game on the market seems like an unfair statement in my opinion , not that my opinion means squat, but when the game launches we'll have to start all over anyway. At least that's my understanding that well be able to play through all 6 acts when it launches and not just repeating 1-3 again, so we get to play what they have now and get to witness all the new changes as they come , POE2 launched into EA a little too close to the holidays giving people the impression that the dev team has abandoned ship, but patience can go a long way , Although my experience hasn't been ideal all the time its been for the most part enjoyable ,and I for one appreciate the opportunity to get to play early, and yes i paid for it , even in it's current state I say money well spent, thank you GGG and I can't wait to see what's next on this journey.

[Medicles]

Well, people still open a thread here asking when the EA ends even though its written right there on the store page. Soooo, its not really surprising that people dont understand what an EA is and even think this is the full release game. Its not surprising at all. The average human IQ is below 100.

[Dr. Rockso]

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
― George Carlin

[TheMasterBlaster]

yeah, the vast majority of complaints would be slightly more valid if this was a full-release game. we don't even have all the classes, weapons, skills and support gems, etc! sheesh. it's basically half the game in an EA state, yet idiots are constantly comparing this to D4, which has been full release since June 2023, and costs $70!!!

people complaining about repeating Acts 1-3 must not be familiar with how PoE 1 EA had to repeat Acts 1-3 THREE TIMES, until the game was completely fleshed out with all the content it has today.

younger ppl today are incredibly impatient, and I suspect that lots of the stupid Steam posts are raging teens used to instant gratification rather than actually working towards an achievement and earning what they have. they want everything handed to them on a silver platter.

with more than 300 hours played and clearing high tier maps, I will say that I hope the on-death effects are toned down a bit regarding their frequency, intensity, and duration. I expect all the Ascendancy trees will get a significant overhaul along with the Trials. Charms need tweaking to make them a bit more useful. Boss one shot attacks in the campaign and low tier maps need adjustments. I expect that kind of stuff in T14+ maps, but not in early game content.

[immdev]

I think one if the factors is no news for 3 weeks straight, and then fresh hotfix having just one change.

[TheMasterBlaster]

Originally posted by immdev:

I think one if the factors is no news for 3 weeks straight, and then fresh hotfix having just one change.

right, how dare the devs take a break for christmas and new year's.

[Caldrin]

Originally posted by immdev:

I think one if the factors is no news for 3 weeks straight, and then fresh hotfix having just one change.

They did say they were taking a break for the Holiday season.. not sure why anyone would have expected any updates when they were away for that.

They are back now so will prob start seeing the hotfixes coming in again.

[ToxiiTea]

Another person who thinks people saying these things means they're someone who doesn't enjoy genre of killing things in a video game. I've never seen such a fragile community as poe tbh. Respecting a players time is not setting them back over 10 hours because you got one shot because the developers sacrificed visual quality for gameplay loop. Meaning you died to a on death effect but at least the ice looked really cool! So you lose XP, map and loot. Also being in a perpetual loop of endlessly searching for a citadel does not respect a players time.

this is poe 2 people have expectations.

Criticism doesn't equal hate.

I don't know how you can't understand something like tedious to be tedious

[TKaal]

People seem to forego understanding what early access means and how to adjust their expectations.

Paying for Early Access is a personal preference.
The base price gets you the basics for stash tabs and perhaps a cosmetic.
This game, especially, it can be looked at as an investment for long term play.
Looking back at PoE 1, I feel I've invested in a potential decade of gaming with PoE 2.

[Medicles]

Originally posted by ToxiiTea:

Another person who thinks people saying these things means they're someone who doesn't enjoy genre of killing things in a video game. I've never seen such a fragile community as poe tbh. Respecting a players time is not setting them back over 10 hours because you got one shot because the developers sacrificed visual quality for gameplay loop. Meaning you died to a on death effect but at least the ice looked really cool! So you lose XP, map and loot. Also being in a perpetual loop of endlessly searching for a citadel does not respect a players time.

this is poe 2 people have expectations.

Criticism doesn't equal hate.

I don't know how you can't understand something like tedious to be tedious

Criticism is fine for sure, but one should still be aware that this isnt a finished game. You should also be aware of the fact that the current endgame system is a band-aid at best, which they communicated openly. So you should expect it to be rather terrible with a lot of faults.

Its also fairly plausible to have mechanics in the endgame like xp loss, especially for the testversion we are playing now.

You see, criticising is always welcome when you are actually intelligent enough to criticise and not complain about stuff that was openly communicated by the devs.

[ToxiiTea]

Originally posted by Medicles:

Originally posted by ToxiiTea:

Another person who thinks people saying these things means they're someone who doesn't enjoy genre of killing things in a video game. I've never seen such a fragile community as poe tbh. Respecting a players time is not setting them back over 10 hours because you got one shot because the developers sacrificed visual quality for gameplay loop. Meaning you died to a on death effect but at least the ice looked really cool! So you lose XP, map and loot. Also being in a perpetual loop of endlessly searching for a citadel does not respect a players time.

this is poe 2 people have expectations.

Criticism doesn't equal hate.

I don't know how you can't understand something like tedious to be tedious

Criticism is fine for sure, but one should still be aware that this isnt a finished game. You should also be aware of the fact that the current endgame system is a band-aid at best, which they communicated openly. So you should expect it to be rather terrible with a lot of faults.

Its also fairly plausible to have mechanics in the endgame like xp loss, especially for the testversion we are playing now.

You see, criticising is always welcome when you are actually intelligent enough to criticise and not complain about stuff that was openly communicated by the devs.

If it's "a band-aid"

why is it worse in every way?

ritual... what are these spawns?

expedition .... how is there no locker?

strongboxes.. oh it only takes 5 business days to open 1

these are reused mechanics from poe1 with the goal to release the game at minimum at 6 months. that means significant progress should be made. people are just keeping ggg to the standards they set,

[Lars]

Originally posted by TheMasterBlaster:

Originally posted by immdev:

I think one if the factors is no news for 3 weeks straight, and then fresh hotfix having just one change.

right, how dare the devs take a break for christmas and new year's.

haha thats where this quote comes in “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
― George Carlin

[Desync]

It's steam forums, everyone knows but nobody cares.

[Medicles]

Originally posted by ToxiiTea:

If it's "a band-aid"

why is it worse in every way?

I believe i explained with the band-aid example why its so bad. Let me be more clear. The endgame in the current version is not something you should take seriously. Its just there for the sake of having something that represents an endgame, which they openly communicated.