Is there really a item dupe?

[Nomeat710]

Not asking how just wondering if thats true been seeing it on global for the past day or two. and if thats the case they need to get it fixed and reset to fix the economy

[fulltank]

they have fixed this 2 days ago.
* they also removed a lot of listings yesterday, dont know if the people got banned yet or not.

[Nomeat710]

Originally posted by fulltank:

they have fixed this 2 days ago.
* they also removed a lot of listings yesterday, dont know if the people got banned yet or not.

well now a reset needs to happen to fix the damage theres probably a ton of duped exalts and divs

[Darkrayne]

It wasn't really a dupe, as far as I know. I was just a way to keep repeating Trial bosses infinitely to get their loot.

A reset isn't required. Early access will have seasons so it won't affect seasonal leagues and early access will be a separate league when v1.0 launches. There's no lasting economy damage.

[Deyvson]

A reset would damage a lot, and fix very little.

[Nomeat710]

Originally posted by ghost:

You should probably have at least a basic grasp on what was duped and to what extent before making proclamations about needing resets.

everything is tradeable, and in an economy where players choose the prices. Duping anything would cause negative effects on said market. The only real fix to help with the prices skyrocketing or plummeting is to reset everyone with a new "season" and economy

[Desync]

Yes there is really an item dupe exploit. The same in POE 1 that has never been fixed in 17 years because they don't know how to fix it. You can log into POE 1 right now and dupe away. Now, it is risky, as they ban ppl for it since they can't fix it.

Which is lame, if they don't have the knowledge to fix something and can't fix it, they shouldn't ban ppl for doing it. Not our fault Tencent doesn't know enough about game development to where they can fix duping. Damn, learn something or let it go.

One of the Diablo 2 devs on X was talking about this very issue a few years ago, and how they attempted to fix duping in Diablo 2 and how much work it was, Because in Diablo 1 everyone just duped the best warrior gear and passed it out like candy. So they attempted to fix that in Diablo 2 by giving every single item in the game an ID # manually, as they had no AI to help them do this.

[DeathBringer]

I hope they don't wipe SSF, I play there🥺

[Hiroko]

tl:dr People found a way to not consume the unique relic while doing the trial, so while its not technically duping, you have infinite tries at obtaining the reward. It was patched. I haven't seen anything about banning people or not, but its very likely people who abused this more than a couple times will be perma banned (on both poe2 and poe1) because that kind of total disregard for the game doesn't magically stop once the game goes to full release.

[Caldrin]

Originally posted by Nomeat710:

Originally posted by fulltank:

they have fixed this 2 days ago.
* they also removed a lot of listings yesterday, dont know if the people got banned yet or not.

well now a reset needs to happen to fix the damage theres probably a ton of duped exalts and divs

They prob wont do a reset until they are ready to drop the first big update.. but will see.

[Dregora]

People expecting a reset on an early access time period.. you're all wild. You're testing the game, jfc.

[Nomeat710]

Originally posted by Dregora:

People expecting a reset on an early access time period.. you're all wild. You're testing the game, jfc.

i would only want a reset during EA for two reasons.....if botters/real world traders/item dupes would ruin the trade economy (which drives this game) and it got fixed to help get the economy back on track or when they drop the other 3 chapters so everyone is on the same playing field

[SharkPlush]

They'll do a seasonal ladder thing at some point.

Originally posted by DeathBringer:

I hope they don't wipe SSF, I play there🥺

I doubt they wipe, google says they dont

[SpankBank]

I ain't mad at the dupers. For two reasons.

1. Yea they tanked the market but at the same time with the rarity of divines this was a god sent for players who can't farm that many. To give the rest of the player base a chance to buy these items at a not so inflated value.

2. With the way divine orbs sky rocketed in their value with them been very minimum drops gave more players a chance to try those high end whale builds in EA without breaking the bank.

If GGG would increase the drop rate of divine orbs then yes i can see the duping as a problem. But this is not the case. Because the currency is so rare to get maybe get 1 divine in 6-8 hours of game play with 200% MF in t15 maps.

There was only 2 other ways to get divines.

1. trade all the currency you farmed at the currency exchange and eventually trade enough there to get maybe 1-2 divines for your 6-8 hours of playing.
2. put literally everything you have on the trade site (which only about 50-60% of the player base doesn't use or know how to use) to build up enough EX to just do step 1 above.

Players that already have 1 shot builds that play for 10 hours everyday straight just farming don't see this because they are probably already geared to the teeth with 300+ MF and farming a entire stash of goods and currency to trade for divines. Seems kinda silly to half to go so hardcore just to get a couple of divines.

One final comment. Not like this is a MMORPG it's a ARPG where 90% of the community plays solo. Not like the extra hard to acquire items are hurting the gameplay overall since it doesn't effect each other.

[Nomeat710]

Originally posted by SpankBank:

I ain't made at the dupers. For two reasons.

1. Yea they tanked the market but at the same time with the rarity of divines this was a god sent for players who can't farm that many. To give the rest of the player base a chance to buy these items at a not so inflated value.

2. With the way divine orbs sky rocketed in their value with them been very minimum drops gave more players a chance to try those high end whale builds in EA without breaking the bank.

If GGG would increase the drop rate of divine orbs then yes i can see the duping as a problem. But this is not the case. Because the currency is so rare to get maybe get 1 divine in 6-8 hours of game play with 200% MF in t15 maps.

There was only 2 other ways to get divines.

1. trade all the currency you farmed at the currency exchange and eventually trade enough there to get maybe 1-2 divines for your 6-8 hours of playing.
2. put literally everything you have on the trade site (which only about 50-60% of the player base doesn't use or know how to use) to build up enough EX to just do step 1 above.

Players that already have 1 shot builds that play for 10 hours everyday straight just farming don't see this because they are probably already geared to the teeth with 300+ MF and farming a entire stash of goods and currency to trade for divines. Seems kinda silly to half to go so hardcore just to get a couple of divines.

One final comment. Not like this is a MMORPG it's a ARPG where 90% of the community plays solo. Not like the extra hard to acquire items are hurting the gameplay overall since it doesn't effect each other.

i can agree with you on that, im just someone who likes to watch cheaters lose what they work so hard for

[soundsdreams]

(which only about 50-60% of the player base doesn't use or know how to use)

you're faithfull :) i think only a little % use that "market"

a auction house IG would be appreciated but it seems to be a dream at this moment