Why is SSF so useless?

[Hindrigan]

Effectively you are playing SSF solo self found if you ignore trade. So what's the point of the entire mode? Currently SSF, according to what I've found, has zero bonuses/buffs to drop rates/rarity/quality/etc for anything. So, again. What's the point because i don't see any?

[fx!]

Useless? What even is the point of this topic? This isn't Last Epoch, you guessed the answer correctly before you've even asked the question, nothing else than a self-imposed restriction. The SSF ladder was requested by a lot of players so now we have it in both poe's.

[MrSoul]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stockwerk 13:

also trade = skipping the entire progression curve

Ursprünglich geschrieben von JCourtney:

It's masochist mode. The drop rates are designed around trade.

the game actually is balanced for SSF and not trade.

Trade has no balance, you pay2win 20$ and you oneshot the entire game,
that is no balance and trade will never be balanced.

If you dont believe me, listen to Kripparian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBmcuIoVEJM
12:06 for good explanation on SSF appeal and why the game is balanced for SSF and not trade

My fav, people who moan no end game or its too easy...and they trade.

Yeah, duh...you skipped entire point of end game.

Like anyone in here, beyond the absolute top tier no-lifers, should not have had enough time in PoE2's end game to cultivate anything remotely close to a complete build, let alone "meta" anything. Yet here we are. Thread upon thread. People moaning when meta is nerfed, I mean I'd be salty too...if I was spending real money on my build to skip end game entirely.

[Carian Champion]

any update on the drop rate for ssf guys? is it improved?

[Plum]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hindrigan:

Effectively you are playing SSF solo self found if you ignore trade. So what's the point of the entire mode? Currently SSF, according to what I've found, has zero bonuses/buffs to drop rates/rarity/quality/etc for anything. So, again. What's the point because i don't see any?

Game is 100% designed around SSF. It is the ideal mode for the game - noobs play trade because they cant get through the game otherwise.

[CHAO$$$]

SSF, HC SSF both have their own ladder and chat separate from trade
so if you dont want RMT spammers, people spamming global to sell stuff and people paying to win ladder and you plan to go SSF anyway then SSF league is the place to be.

[SkaldedDawg]

I haven't even used trade (anymore) beyond buying the appropriate stash tab. I'm not dealing with this stuff outside of the game. Trade is bad in this game.

[qsnoopyjr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Stockwerk 13:

trade league is 110% pay2win

100 exalts sell for 1 dollar
1 divine sells for 2 dollar

working a minimum wage job at mc donalds is 10x effective than grinding the game

SSF is for people who do not like to play a pay2win game

People probably doing that probably not in the USA.

Imagine this, you live in city with 10+ million. Very crowded. To get to work you gotta get on a train. Train is very crowded. Or you can just do the video game stuff, and you know since your in another country it ain't like they gonna get you unlike being in the USA. All sudden you get something about you are being sued.

You don't hear much about people being sued in other countries by their country, this is a USA thing.

I think those other countries handle it different and I don't they care much about video games, its more about politics, and do you support the ruler, you do, ok you are fine. If you don't not, something special will happen if you be too noisy about spreading information about not supporting the ruler.

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hindrigan:

Effectively you are playing SSF solo self found if you ignore trade. So what's the point of the entire mode? Currently SSF, according to what I've found, has zero bonuses/buffs to drop rates/rarity/quality/etc for anything. So, again. What's the point because i don't see any?

it's for bragging rights... just like HardCore is for bragging rights. If you say you are level 100 on normal mode, nobody cares. Say you are 100 SSF, impressive. Say you are 100 on Hardcore, you are God.

[FrozenStorm]

I love these posts about SSF.

Simple answer - If the game had no online and a single player mode... I would never go online. I don't want to interact with other players. I just want to enjoy the game without being "Influenced" by Narcissists online and their blind followers just copying everything they do.

SSF = Single Player in a game that is a always online live service game. Instead of adding a offline single player mode, they just started this SSF ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Bottom line for me personally, I play SSF to avoid morons like the ones in these posts.

[Siegward]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hindrigan:

you guys aren't even making points. using the 'if' stuff.

Holy IF STUFF

[niaerniopawrjnko]

Because the game is balanced around trade and the top 0.1% players. Unfortunately the main people designing the game have severe autism which means most of their descisions are illogical. PoE 1 and 2 are not designed for people to enjoy, its about milking as much time from the player as possible

[niaerniopawrjnko]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hindrigan:

Don't turn this into a discussion about the balance and BS of trade. This is about Solo Self Found having no place in the game currently. It literally does nothing other than remove aspects that a large portion of the player base already completely ignore out of frustration/desire because said aspects/mechanics are troublesome (to put lightly) with zero compensation. Trade, currently, doesn't even work well with all of it's internal problems, scammers and scalpers. It also isn't even usable for the vast majority of console players. So again, back to Solo Self Found. Why does it needlessly have no place?
Just buff the rates and you've fixed a lot with literally zero drawback.

GGG are afraid streamers will beat all the content within a weekend, this is what their main priority has always been. Balance the game around people who shower once a week and look like Ziz 🤢.

[Ashyne]

Simple, because I play PoE2 as a single-player game, and all chat is permanently turned off. So there is no trading and no party and therefore I must do everything on my own. As far as I'm concerned, I am the only person that exists in the game and all those other "players" I see in towns are just NPCs to me.

Also, the developers should make SSF permanent for a character instead of letting SSF characters turn it off at any time.

[Licher.Rus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hindrigan:

Effectively you are playing SSF solo self found if you ignore trade. So what's the point of the entire mode? Currently SSF, according to what I've found, has zero bonuses/buffs to drop rates/rarity/quality/etc for anything. So, again. What's the point because i don't see any?

SSF should offer way reachier loot, it should be like Diablo 4, but POE - because you can't trade with others, you should have way bigger variety pool

While, it clearly seems, it didn't have ANY loot advantages, compared to Trade leagues

Which is dumb, ngl

But devs are made the game designed specifically for RMT, so it would never change: If regular player would be able to play with comfort - then he would not need to buy currency or items at Black market sites, right?

But the game were designed specifically for RMT, so.... right - it would never change.

[StarryEyes]

you can say that about gaming as a whole. whats the point of it all? Some might say entertainment, but i'm not so sure.