Bahlak, The Sky Seer needs a nerf

[Caelib]

This guy is impossible to beat unless you have AT LEAST 25 - 30% movement speed buff. His tornado attack moves too fast and is impossible to outrun unless you have a very specific minimum amount of movement speed. For players just trying to complete their second ascension, this is going to cause a lot of people to quit the game because it's poor design to have a boss that has a specific, unknown gear requirement to defeat.

[Tsatrik]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

Maybe you should make your character stronger before attempting the fight. Why should a fight be nerfed just because you think its too hard?

To be honest his tornado attack is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. And if you get him last you probably already have a bunch of hazards on the field. You either one shot him or he kills you with tornado. it's next to impossible to survive it unless you have a movement skill. It's not good design and we should not defend it.

Maybe you have an insanely good build you followed and you have no problem with him.but not all people are like that.

[Pandorian]

His tornado attack is overtuned. You can run T15s with no issue and then when doing the low level quest trial unsynced, still get absolutely destroyed by it if you get clipped.

[tolshortte]

i think youve finally found what this community is all about. pay attention, it wont change.

yes, its bad design. or specifically designed to gatekeep your progress and force you to the trading portion of the game that promotes tab sales.

either way, its ♥♥♥♥

[Tsatrik]

A boss can be easy,but still badly designed.His tornado attack is. The boss is fine otherwise. I do not have problem with him as well,but i play sorc. My friend plays warrior and his only hope was just bursting him down.

[tolshortte]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

Publicado originalmente por tolshortte:

i think youve finally found what this community is all about. pay attention, it wont change.

yes, its bad design. or specifically designed to gatekeep your progress and force you to the trading portion of the game that promotes tab sales.

either way, its ♥♥♥♥

LOL. The grand conspiracy to sell stash tabs has been uncovered!

I love how everything you guys struggle with is "broken, overtuned, unfair, etc." GGG needs to just put in a "Win" button for yall.

yes, just ignore all the videos, posts, forums, blogs, vlogs, and anything else that points to an issue.

oh, and thanks again for proving my point.

[tolshortte]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

Publicado originalmente por tolshortte:

yes, just ignore all the videos, posts, forums, blogs, vlogs, and anything else that points to an issue.

oh, and thanks again for proving my point.

Why would i need other people to form my option for me when ive already completed the content and have seen the boss first hand? Do you normally need other people to tell you what your opinion should be? Ultimatum is easy to trivialize if you build your character correctly even at area level 80.

because not everyone uses the meta builds then pretends they did it themselves? but hey, its your lie, tell it how you want.

[DaciValt]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

If the requirements to beat the fight are known and you continue to enter the fight without meeting those requirement then its your fault not the games that you fail. I didnt follow a build guide but i also didnt keep attempting to ascend when my build was obviously to weak to complete it. You could literally grind to 90+ without doing 3rd and 4th ascend. Its not required.

Ah yes the requirement of being absolutely terrified to hit him in melee range because he can delete you in second.

That "requirement" of not using any melee weapons period to stand even a chance of surviving one attack. Such a fantastic boss.

Melee have two options - beat him super quick (in gear far surpassing what you need to actually fight him) and hope he doesn't do it or die.

[DaciValt]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

So you're stacking armor and life as melee?

Who the hell is stacking life? There is hardly any +life nodes even in the passive tree.

But sure, grabbing those random +20 life nodes that are well out of the way are sure to save people from attacks that 2k-0 you in a second, can't see where the danger zone starts, tracks you across the arena, has a short telegraph, covers around quarter of the entire zone and is faster than you without good move speed.

[DaciValt]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

No one? Im the only person who has ever played PoE 2 and had that opinion? You asked every single player? Sounds like hyperbole that shouldn't be taken seriously.

Honestly I think I would put money on that, you are the first person I have seen to say out of it's balanced out of all the people I've seen talking about it (of which there is alot.)

If your answer is to out-level it massively then that's not an argument in favour of it's balance btw.

I can beat the trial around the level requirement however only if I get the blood birb, if I get this one it's a restart for sure.

[tolshortte]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

Publicado originalmente por tolshortte:

because not everyone uses the meta builds then pretends they did it themselves? but hey, its your lie, tell it how you want.

LOL so now everyone that isnt struggling with the content you are is using meta builds and lying about it? Cope harder bro. Literally impossible that anything is wrong with your build and is 100% a fact that the only people that can complete the content are meta builds. Why not take it a step further? Really make yourself feel better by assuming every build better than yours is also using RMT? Protect that ego my dude.

here is the problem "dude", youre an idiot, i have never claimed or pretended to be the best at this game. i know that health and armor for melee is bad because of BAD DESIGN and i also know that needing mov spd for a boss fight to progress as melee is also BAD DESIGN.

but please, protect your gamer ego "dude".

[leftharted]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

Publicado originalmente por DaciValt:

It's only you who says the tornado attack is fair, no-one else says this.

No one? Im the only person who has ever played PoE 2 and had that opinion? You asked every single player? Sounds like hyperbole that shouldn't be taken seriously.

I find it fine as-is. Was def easier on lightning sorc than my chalupa monk but it i did it in a few tries. Just gotta be preemptive and gtfo before it happens. I consider it fair, and don't want to see it tuned down.

[thawn4444]

Publicado originalmente por DaciValt:

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

If the requirements to beat the fight are known and you continue to enter the fight without meeting those requirement then its your fault not the games that you fail. I didnt follow a build guide but i also didnt keep attempting to ascend when my build was obviously to weak to complete it. You could literally grind to 90+ without doing 3rd and 4th ascend. Its not required.

Ah yes the requirement of being absolutely terrified to hit him in melee range because he can delete you in second.

That "requirement" of not using any melee weapons period. Such a fantastic boss.

my tempest flurry monk killed him just fine, at level 74.


just cause you lack the skills to play melee, does not mean others share in your lack of skill. . .

git gud

[DaciValt]

Publicado originalmente por thawn4444:

my tempest flurry monk killed him just fine, at level 74.


just cause you lack the skills to play melee, does not mean others share in your lack of skill. . .

git gud

:exalted:

"lack of skill"... "I beat it at 74"

Yeah sure keep boasting your skill prowess when you only beat it at nearly double it's level and gear scaling, it's only level 38 lmfao.

I beat the chaos trial at 42 and had two ascendancies for act 3 and I'm SSF, you needed 74 and I guess you are trade league? Big flex my dude /s

[tolshortte]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

Publicado originalmente por tolshortte:

here is the problem "dude", youre an idiot, i have never claimed or pretended to be the best at this game. i know that health and armor for melee is bad because of BAD DESIGN and i also know that needing mov spd for a boss fight to progress as melee is also BAD DESIGN.

but please, protect your gamer ego "dude".

and here come the insults because you lack self control . You're saying that a boss in an ARPG needing certain stats to beat it is bad design? LOL have you ever played an ARPG before? They usually require certain stats to continue clearing harder and harder content. Thats literally the entire point. No ones gonna do Lvl 1 runs with no gear like they do in Dark Souls. You need stats.

no thats not what im saying. nice try though. what im saying is that the entire health/armor concept is broken and considerably worse than running in a nightgown. this has been discussed many time in many places. its worse in POE2 than its first iteration.

also, failure to make the reqs for the boss consistent across all classes is BAD DESIGN. this is a basic fundamental thing within design.

but hey, you keep pretending big guy. i guess you have to be good at something right

[DaciValt]

Publicado originalmente por JiggleBill:

There are ways to convert life and armour. There are ways to fix these issues that are known issues. If you fail to use the tools available to fix your build issues you cant cry about content being too hard.

This boss has the same requirements for all classes: bring boss HP to 0 without player HP reaching 0. Maybe dont stack broken stats when you know they are broken? Its like that meme of the guy putting a stick in his bike's tire spokes. You self sabotage and then cry online about it. Yes armor and life have issues. Everyone knows that. Change your build or wait for a patch. to fix it. Dont nerf a boss because of it.

So everyone should play ES stacking spark Sorceress got it.

Everyone just stack int because clearly thats the only defence worth using and if you use any of the others then you are just stupid apparently.

Never mind the fact to use most of the other weapons you can't stack int, put it away, start spell casting and become the meta /s

All of this for a singular boss attack, this is "balanced" apparently.

I wanna see your reaction when class changes hit once again.